Roger Stone Communicated With Russian Hackers, Mueller Indictment Suggests

[Napoleon]

well if you read the GOP part that got hacked was old addresses and things not being used.
So there was probably nothing there to release.

If there was then Steele should have found it from his russian sources that he was using.
So when are we going to have a 2 year+ long investigation into that.

I thought that was muellers job to look into Russian meddling in the election.
so far he hasn't indicted Steele, Fusion the DNC or the clinton campaign.

so i guess he isn't too concerned with russian meddling unless it is Trump campaign.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446

Where is mueller on this?

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-...-commissioned-the-trump-russia-dossier-speaks

where is mueller here?

Steele relied on “a network of people, sources” that he had in Russia, which gathered information for him.

i don't seem Mueller anywhere. Why is that?

that is concerete proof the the clinton campaign not once but twice was involved with Russian/Urkanian governments to meddle in the election.

and we have silence. hence why this is a complete shame of an investigation.
you should be outraged.

The only thing deserving of outrage is that a Kremlin puppet is in the White House and the GOP became a party of traitors as have their supporters.

 

[Chomsky]

Stone is on CNN's Cuomo right now ...

 

[vesper]

So both parties were hacked, but only one had their information released...you're right, that is a VERY important fact when discussing potential coordination between Trump/Republicans and Russia.

Oh back up the truck.....beep beep beep.


The Democrats seem to have a real problem with securing their servers, emails etc. There's an investigation going on right now involving the same woman at the time in charge at the DNC during the hacking and was also involved in hiring a Pakistani IT individual and his family that hacked the Democrats emails, server, and sent a lot of information to locations unknown. Her name is Debbie Wasserman Shultz.


Maybe it is time you all start picking more competent leadership within your party.

 

[Slyfox696]

Oh back up the truck.....beep beep beep.


The Democrats seem to have a real problem with securing their servers, emails etc. There's an investigation going on right now involving the same woman at the time in charge at the DNC during the hacking and was also involved in hiring a Pakistani IT individual and his family that hacked the Democrats emails, server, and sent a lot of information to locations unknown. Her name is Debbie Wasserman Shultz.


Maybe it is time you all start picking more competent leadership within your party.

A) I haven't seen you post anything supported by facts today, so this post of yours doesn't surprise me.
B) I'm not a Democrat
C) The Pakistani individual was CLEARED by the the government of the things you just alleged. Here's the relevant quote and link:

More specifically, the Government agrees that the public allegations that your client stole U.S. House of Representatives ("House") equipment and engaged in unauthorized or illegal conduct involving House computer systems do not form the basis of any conduct relevant to the determination of the sentence in this case. The Government conducted a thorough investigatio nof those allegations, including interviewing approximately 40 witnesses; taking custody of the House Democratic Caucus server, along with other computers, hard drives, and electronic devices; examining those devices, including inspecting their physical condition and analyzing log-in and usage data; reviewing electronic communications between pertinent House employees; consulting with the House Office of General Counsel and House information technology personnel to access and/or collect evidence; and questioning your client during numerous voluntary interviews. The Government has uncovered no evidence that your client violated federal law with respect to the House computer systems. Particularly, the Government has found no evidence that your client illegally removed House data from the House network orfrom House Members' offices, stole the House Democratic Caucus Server, stole or destroyed House information technology equipment, or improperly accessed or transferred govemment information, including classified or sensitive information.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/press-release/file/1077546/download Page 5

D) None of what you said in ANY way addresses what I said.

So, to sum up, you posted a bunch of falsehoods which didn't even address what I said. Why are you so insistent on posting falsehoods?

 

[Linc]

Stone is as dirty as Manafort. Perhaps worse. Both were in Moscow's hip pocket.

The good guy Republicans hit a grand slam in the bottom of the 3rd today, jeopardizing McConnellism’s long game.

The only question now is when does Moscow Mitch pull his starting pitcher for relief from Pence.

 

[vesper]

A) I haven't seen you post anything supported by facts today, so this post of yours doesn't surprise me.
B) I'm not a Democrat
C) The Pakistani individual was CLEARED by the the government of the things you just alleged. Here's the relevant quote and link:


https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/press-release/file/1077546/download

D) None of what you said in ANY way addresses what I said.

So, to sum up, you posted a bunch of falsehoods which didn't even address what I said. Why are you so insistent on posting falsehoods?

No I did not post a bunch of falsehoods. You just seem ignorant of facts.


Do a search on Imran Awan and Debbie Wasserman Schwartz.

Do a search on who was in charge of the DNC when the server and Podesta's computer was hacked.

Democrats have a security problem

 

[Slyfox696]

No I did not post a bunch of falsehoods.

Yes you did. I literally pointed them out. Awan didn't hack or transmit anything and I'm not a Democrat. Those are two false statements you made. And your post, in no way, addressed what I said.

Your post was absolutely full of falsehoods.

You just seem ignorant of facts.

More falsehoods, which is quite astounding considering I literally just proved you wrong.

Do a search on Imran Awan

I did. And then I quoted for you where the government cleared him of the things you accused him of and linked you to the government document.

Why are you posting lies?

 

[jet57]

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...ueller-indictment_us_5b48d9dce4b0bc69a786e89c

Among the revelations in special counsel Robert Mueller’s indictment of 12 Russian intelligence officers on Friday involved in hacking the Democratic National Committee was that the hackers communicated with individuals in the United States — including “a person who was in regular contact with senior members of the presidential campaign of Donald J. Trump.”

Although not named in Friday’s documents, that person is widely known to be Trump confidant Roger Stone, who has previously posted screenshots of his interactions with one of the hackers, Guccifer 2.0.
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Who wants to bet whether or not Stone is among the next shoes to drop in the Mueller probe?

Yeah, Stone is next into the box. Mueller knows exactly what he's doing and it's going to be very interesting to see how Trump handles this with his blood brother's meeting coming out: I bet he chickens out and comes home. Trump should outraged and throwing chairs and dying to get at Putin; but of course, we'll see.

 

[jet57]

How bout you get back to us when you have information?

Unsourced speculation does not cut it.

QUALITY MATTERS

You can read the indictment here https://www.vox.com/2018/7/13/17568806/mueller-russia-intelligence-indictment-full-text

And all of it is backed up with primary source evidence. Is that enough information for 'ya?

Read it and then get back to us.

 

[vesper]

Yes you did. I literally pointed them out. Awan didn't hack or transmit anything and I'm not a Democrat. Those are two false statements you made. And your post, in no way, addressed what I said.

Your post was absolutely full of falsehoods.

More falsehoods, which is quite astounding considering I literally just proved you wrong.

I did. And then I quoted for you where the government cleared him of the things you accused him of and linked you to the government document.

Why are you posting lies?

There were a lot of fears involving Anwan and the access he had to Democrats computers. It was just in the last couple of days after an extensive investigation that Anwan and his family members who worked for Democrats and were paid very nicely were cleared of their worst concerns. Anwan's wife is already back in Pakistan
Was Anwan an upstanding person one would pick for an IT for Democrat House members? No he was not. He pled guilty to bank fraud. And where did Anwan get his job as IT for the Democrats in the House? Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

And who was in charge of the DNC when it was hacked by Russians and Podesta's emails were hacked? Debbie Wasserman Shultz

 

[notquiteright]

How bout you get back to us when you have information? Unsourced speculation does not cut it. QUALITY MATTERS QUOTE]

Patience is a virtue even for Zen Masters.... I do believe Mueller is attending to that directly. He is building his case, not jumping to conclusions like Quasimoto Giuliani claims.

First prove the Russians did in fact launch an attack on our democratic process and it was an official attack and not some 300 lb loser in his mom's basement.

Next show extensive communications between senior advisors and these Russian hackers.

Tie the senior advisors to Trump and show Trump acting/reacting to the documented communications.

Tie trump and his team to attempts to mask these connections and any/all attempts to sidetrack/lie about the connections...

All in due time.... what freaks the rank and file Republican'ts out is the big cards being played as the midterms heat up. If enough Republican't are on record slamming the investigation, covering for Trump, so sicken the voters that only the most hard core rabid right diehards vote for a GOP candidate both Houses could be lost. Remember McCain had the BushII albatross around his next running against Obama...

Apparently dead seabird is a stench that doesn't appeal to voters... eace

 

[ataraxia]

So much for the Mueller investigation being some kind of witchhunt. This thing is now looking like it has the potential to blow up bigger than Watergate.

 

[Parrish]

He's still insisting on meeting Putin, despite the implications of these developments. I reckon he's testing how far the GoP will go in backing him.

Naw. He just wants to ask Putin "What do I do now?"

 

[Slyfox696]

There were a lot of fears involving Anwan and the access he had to Democrats computers. It was just in the last couple of days after an extensive investigation that Anwan and his family members who worked for Democrats and were paid very nicely were cleared of their worst concerns.

Which means what you posted was a falsehood and those "fears" you mentioned were falsehoods. Like I said. And then for you to repeat your falsehood after I already had shown it to be false wanders into the "lie" territory.

Was Anwan an upstanding person one would pick for an IT for Democrat House members? No he was not. He pled guilty to bank fraud. And where did Anwan get his job as IT for the Democrats in the House? Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

And who was in charge of the DNC when it was hacked by Russians and Podesta's emails were hacked? Debbie Wasserman Shultz

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Weakest comeback ever. You were exposed as stating things which were provably false and the best you got is to bring up irrelevant information to defend your initial irrelevant information. Who cares who was in charge, the Russians committed crimes against the DNC for the benefit of Trump and did not release info they acquired from Republicans even though they released what they got from Democrats.

Democrats and Republicans were both hacked, but only the Democrats had their info released. That is a VERY important point and no amount of falsehoods you post will distract from that fact. So stop posting things which are false.

 

[ataraxia]

Naw. He just wants to ask Putin "What do I do now?"

He is going in for his annual performance review with the boss in Moscow. I bet he is nervous.

 

[Parrish]

He is going in for his annual performance review with the boss in Moscow. I bet he is nervous.

As well he should.

 

[ludin]

The only thing deserving of outrage is that a Kremlin puppet is in the White House and the GOP became a party of traitors as have their supporters.

Wait wait wait.
There is no evidence that points anything to trump.

Yet I have shown you fact living proof evidence that the clinton campaign and the dnc did in fact use Russian contacts,
And all you can is but trump?

Wow thanks for proving you really don't care about actual russia meddling in our election.

Just another TDS rant.

 

[ataraxia]

Wait wait wait.
There is no evidence that points anything to trump.

Yet I have shown you fact living proof evidence that the clinton campaign and the dnc did in fact use Russian contacts,
And all you can is but trump?

Wow thanks for proving you really don't care about actual russia meddling in our election.

Just another TDS rant.

Turn off Fox and read some actual news.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.news...ering-says-former-us-intel-chief-940086?amp=1

 

[ludin]

Turn off Fox and read some actual news.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.news...ering-says-former-us-intel-chief-940086?amp=1

None of the links I posted were fox.
So yea get some actual news.

 

[vesper]

Which means what you posted was a falsehood and those "fears" you mentioned were falsehoods. Like I said. And then for you to repeat your falsehood after I already had shown it to be false wanders into the "lie" territory.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Weakest comeback ever. You were exposed as stating things which were provably false and the best you got is to bring up irrelevant information to defend your initial irrelevant information. Who cares who was in charge, the Russians committed crimes against the DNC for the benefit of Trump and did not release info they acquired from Republicans even though they released what they got from Democrats.

Democrats and Republicans were both hacked, but only the Democrats had their info released. That is a VERY important point and no amount of falsehoods you post will distract from that fact. So stop posting things which are false.

No it isn't the weakest comeback ever.

You show yourself to be absolutely delusional on facts.


It was the U.S. capitol police who arrest Awan at Dulles Airport heading back to Pakistan. Why because there were so many pieces of evidence that proved he was not on the up and up.





U.S. Capitol Police arrested Awan at Dulles Airport. He had previously purchased a ticket to Lahore, Pakistan, with a return flight in January 2018.[ Awan was arraigned the following day and pleaded not guilty to one count of bank fraud. According to Wiki, He was ordered to surrender his passports, abide by a curfew, and wear a GPS device. Wasserman Schultz fired Awan on July 25 after learning about his arrest.
On August 17, 2017, a federal grand jury, convened in U.S. District Court in the District of Columbia, indicted Awan and his wife on four counts, including conspiracy, making false statements, bank fraud, and unlawful monetary transactions. They were charged with conspiring to obtain home equity loans for $165,000 and $120,000 from the Wright Patman Congressional Federal Credit Union in Oakton, Virginia and transferring the money to Pakistan. In January 2017 the couple had wired $283,000 from Alvi's credit union checking account to two individuals in Faisalabad.
On September 1, 2017, Awan pleaded not guilty to all of these charges. The investigation concluded in early July 2018 with Awan pleading guilty to making a false statement on a bank loan application.Awan had filed a loan application in the name of his wife, Hina Alvi, with a property as equity, but falsely claimed that the property in question was Alvi's primary residence when it was in fact being rented out by Alvi. Awan's attorney said that Awan made the false statement in order to obtain the loan quickly so that he could quickly transfer money to relatives in Pakistan.


When the Democrats in the House got wind of the Capitol police investigation into Anwan they dropped him like a hot potato as their IT guy but Debbie Wasserman Shultz didn't fire him until he was arrested. That alone shows feckless leadership.


Debbie Wasserman Schultz was also head of the DNC when it got hacked and John Podesta.The turmoil eventually led to the resignation of DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

As far as your claim of the RNC being hacked too, well from what I read if it did it was minimal. If you read the NYT and other left leaning publications you may get the assumption it was big months later after the fact. But a place like the Hill, a more equal balance in reporting in those days not so much.

Report: Russia hacked emails associated with RNC | TheHill

 

[jwzg]

The world has not seen such naivete since 70s porn.

'You mean, I have to take my clothes off to save the world?'

:lol: Thank you for my new sig! May I?

 

[Slyfox696]

No it isn't the weakest comeback ever.

Yes it is. After having your initial accusation proven false, you tried to salvage it with a completely unrelated offense to prove your original point. It was pathetic.

You show yourself to be absolutely delusional on facts.

Says the person who has repeatedly posted things already proven false.

It was the U.S. capitol police who arrest Awan at Dulles Airport heading back to Pakistan. Why because there were so many pieces of evidence that proved he was not on the up and up.

You're still pushing this lie? There was no evidence found of the things you accused him of. Stop pushing the lie.

Debbie Wasserman Schultz was also head of the DNC when it got hacked and John Podesta.The turmoil eventually led to the resignation of DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

None of which has anything to do with anything we've discussed. Why are you wasting our time with lies and red herrings? Our conversation has NOTHING to do with Schultz.

As far as your claim of the RNC being hacked too, well from what I read if it did it was minimal.

:lol:

So let's see...they hack old e-mails and don't release them and don't hack the Trump campaign or the current RNC, even though they spent MONTHS attacking DNC materials. And now we find they were actively helping the Trump team and that a (likely Republican) Congressional candidate came to them for information on his/her opponent in the race.

Thank you for proving my point. I guess even people who regularly post falsehoods can be useful every now and then.

 

[upsideguy]

Stone is as dirty as Manafort. Perhaps worse. Both were in Moscow's hip pocket.

...and both were on Trump's staff.... um? Isn't that how collusion works, with a common denominator?

 

[Moot]

The circle around Trump is tightening...or should I say the noose?

 

[Kobie]

No it isn't the weakest comeback ever.

You show yourself to be absolutely delusional on facts.


It was the U.S. capitol police who arrest Awan at Dulles Airport heading back to Pakistan. Why because there were so many pieces of evidence that proved he was not on the up and up.





U.S. Capitol Police arrested Awan at Dulles Airport. He had previously purchased a ticket to Lahore, Pakistan, with a return flight in January 2018.[ Awan was arraigned the following day and pleaded not guilty to one count of bank fraud. According to Wiki, He was ordered to surrender his passports, abide by a curfew, and wear a GPS device. Wasserman Schultz fired Awan on July 25 after learning about his arrest.
On August 17, 2017, a federal grand jury, convened in U.S. District Court in the District of Columbia, indicted Awan and his wife on four counts, including conspiracy, making false statements, bank fraud, and unlawful monetary transactions. They were charged with conspiring to obtain home equity loans for $165,000 and $120,000 from the Wright Patman Congressional Federal Credit Union in Oakton, Virginia and transferring the money to Pakistan. In January 2017 the couple had wired $283,000 from Alvi's credit union checking account to two individuals in Faisalabad.
On September 1, 2017, Awan pleaded not guilty to all of these charges. The investigation concluded in early July 2018 with Awan pleading guilty to making a false statement on a bank loan application.Awan had filed a loan application in the name of his wife, Hina Alvi, with a property as equity, but falsely claimed that the property in question was Alvi's primary residence when it was in fact being rented out by Alvi. Awan's attorney said that Awan made the false statement in order to obtain the loan quickly so that he could quickly transfer money to relatives in Pakistan.


When the Democrats in the House got wind of the Capitol police investigation into Anwan they dropped him like a hot potato as their IT guy but Debbie Wasserman Shultz didn't fire him until he was arrested. That alone shows feckless leadership.


Debbie Wasserman Schultz was also head of the DNC when it got hacked and John Podesta.The turmoil eventually led to the resignation of DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

As far as your claim of the RNC being hacked too, well from what I read if it did it was minimal. If you read the NYT and other left leaning publications you may get the assumption it was big months later after the fact. But a place like the Hill, a more equal balance in reporting in those days not so much.

Report: Russia hacked emails associated with RNC | TheHill

It would be awesome if you would just stop lying sometime. Seriously. Everything you post is BS.