Rising conservative activist Candace Owens criticized over Hitler comments

[Oborosen]

Blue State America hates your White Nationalist views....Believe it

So what are people supposed to say about your racist views?

It's not like any of them are going to be nice.

 

[Oborosen]

You know, I just realized after looking at this article for over a day. That it might actually be just more lies from BuzzfeedNews.

people familiar with their internal discussions

Is usually code for "Hey We're totally making this **** up" Especially with how Buzzfeed and to that extent BuzzfeedNews, have been acting. Which I'll admit that BuzzfeedNews is far more trustworthy than its counterpart. But the issue of recent events marring their image are still having an impact.

 

[Fishking]

She and other members of the far right are trying to rehabilitate nationalism.

The only problem is that Hitler used nationalism to justify the worst crimes of his regime.

Why is it that nationalism somehow has to mean Hitler, and therefore bad, but socialism is just find, despite there being endless examples of atrocities under socialist governments?

 

[phattonez]

From Global News

Rising conservative activist Candace Owens criticized over Hitler comments
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A rising conservative activist and Trump supporter is facing criticism after a video of her defending nationalism and differentiating it from Adolf Hitler’s policies went viral.

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Candace Owens is the communications director of Turning Point USA, a conservative advocacy group. She made the comments at a December event in the U.K. to promote the launch of Turning Point UK, a British offshoot of the group.

Buzzfeed reported on the video Friday.

In the video, Owens was asked about nationalism in Western politics.

“I actually don’t have any problems at all with the word ‘nationalism,'” Owens said. “I think that the definition gets poisoned by elitists that actually want globalism.

“Whenever we say nationalism, the first thing people think about, at least in America, is Hitler,” Owens said.“He was a national socialist. But if Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well, OK, fine.”

COMMENT:-

Hey, there were a lot of good people in the German government under the Nazis.

I mean they were good to their kids and didn't beat their wives, or stuff like that, and they went to church regularly.

Not only that but Adolf Hitler didn't cheat on his wife - not even ONCE throughout his whole marriage.
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[LINK TO VIDEO]

PS - The number of posts before someone says that Ms. Owens didn't say what she said because it was Buzzfeed who reported on it is estimated (at the time of posting) to be less than 10.

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If that's the extent of what she said, then what's wrong with what she said?

 

[Fishking]

She said the problem with Hitler was that he wanted to impose on a global scale the plans he had for Germany. She expressed no concern over the plans he had for Germany. She said he was "fine" before he decided to go global.

She said more, but it's better to have a snippet of a quote, instead of the whole thing.

 

[Fishking]

Blue State America hates your White Nationalist views....Believe it

You're the only one that said "white" so...

 

[Tigerace117]

Never mind. I found it. She said, "The problem is that he wanted, he had dreams outside of Germany. He wanted to globalise."

So, in no way was she defending Hitler as the left would have us believe.

Bottom line is that giving half a quote is always the sign of an agenda.

:lamo

What a pathetic weak defense.

Hitler’s domestic policies were absolutely horrific and responsible for immense suffering long before he looked “outside of Germany”.

Indeed, territorial expansion was the main goal of his plan to “make Germany great again”.

Saying that the problem was simply that he had “dreams outside of Germany” is what people are objecting to.....and nothing that you have said changes that.

 

[Tigerace117]

If that's the extent of what she said, then what's wrong with what she said?

Gee buddy, you tell me what’s wrong with creating death camps, murdering dissidents, brutally persecuting your own people, creating a totalitarian police state...... etc etc etc.

 

[phattonez]

Gee buddy, you tell me what’s wrong with creating death camps, murdering dissidents, brutally persecuting your own people, creating a totalitarian police state...... etc etc etc.

Oh is that what she was defending? I missed that part of the quote.

Sent from my phone. Instaurare omnia in Christo.

 

[Saladin4]

Doesn't look like you're to smart either. Nationalism is a good thing for ones country.

White Nationalists aren't wanted and won't be tolerated...Not Now...Not Ever

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Why is it that nationalism somehow has to mean Hitler, and therefore bad, but socialism is just find, despite there being endless examples of atrocities under socialist governments?

Possibly because "Nationalism" tends to mean "I support my country - even if my country is in the wrong." while "Patriotism" tends to mean "I support my country when it is in the right and change it when it is in the wrong.".

"Jingoism", on the other hand, tends to mean "I support my country because it is never wrong - even if it is doing things that it says it never does because to do those things are against what it stands for.".

I have no quarrel with "Patriots".

I have some hope for "Nationalists".

I despair of "Jingoists"​

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

If that's the extent of what she said, then what's wrong with what she said?

Possibly because it displayed a remarkable level of ignorance on the subject of what Hitler did in Germany (to say nothing about the level of ignorance concerning what Hitler thought Germany actually consisted of).

To Hitler, the "Western campaigns" were DEFENSIVE and were designed to free up the German military to RECLAIM lands that were "rightfully Germany's" because Germans had a "superior racial claim to them". Those were not "foreign wars" they were state actions designed to "Machen Sie Deutschland wieder großartig".

 

[Bassman]

Candace Owens=Brain Dead Moron

Translation: A Black American who won't toe the Democrat plantation line.

 

[Saladin4]

Translation: A Black American who won't toe the Democrat plantation line.

Yeah the Bitch is an Uncle Tom...Shilling for the White Nationalists

 

[phattonez]

Possibly because it displayed a remarkable level of ignorance on the subject of what Hitler did in Germany (to say nothing about the level of ignorance concerning what Hitler thought Germany actually consisted of).

To Hitler, the "Western campaigns" were DEFENSIVE and were designed to free up the German military to RECLAIM lands that were "rightfully Germany's" because Germans had a "superior racial claim to them". Those were not "foreign wars" they were state actions designed to "Machen Sie Deutschland wieder großartig".

I wasn't aware that she defended the invasions.

Sent from my phone. Instaurare omnia in Christo.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

I wasn't aware that she defended the invasions.

Sent from my phone. Instaurare omnia in Christo.

She didn't, and I didn't say that she did.

She just - as I did say - "defended" what Hitler did "in Germany" without knowing what that was or what Hitler considered Germany to be.

Of the two, the first is the greater shame, in my opinion.

 

[Fishking]

Possibly because "Nationalism" tends to mean "I support my country - even if my country is in the wrong." while "Patriotism" tends to mean "I support my country when it is in the right and change it when it is in the wrong.".

"Jingoism", on the other hand, tends to mean "I support my country because it is never wrong - even if it is doing things that it says it never does because to do those things are against what it stands for.".

I have no quarrel with "Patriots".

I have some hope for "Nationalists".

I despair of "Jingoists"​

Patriotism and Nationalism are nearly interchangeable. It mostly means that you support your country and want to do what's best for it and it's people. It doesn't mean that you think it's perfect and never does anything wrong.

 

[Peter King]

Just to be sure because I am not that willing to watch idiots say something online, but the that person really state:

Not only that but Adolf Hitler didn't cheat on his wife - not even ONCE throughout his whole marriage.

The insane person does know that Hitler and that nazi woman Eva Braun were only married for about 40 hours before ending their lives? And that during that time they were in the Fuhrer bunker? And that he could not even have cheated on her even if he wanted to due to the close confines of the Hitler Bunker and the war that was raging above their heads?

That comment he did not cheat once throughout his entire marriage just shows this lady is a nutter or has no inkling of historical knowledge.

 

[Felis Leo]

Well if only Adolf Hitler and his followers had restricted themselves to stripping Jews of their rights as citizens, executing disabled and mentally handicapped people en masse, eliminating all forms of individual liberty and throwing political opponents into extrajudicial concentration camps, and seeking to control all of civil society through various organs of the National Socialist Party to Germany alone, he would be remembered as a great man and moral pioneer, no doubt! Well spoken, Candace Owens. Bravo.

:applaud

 

[Felis Leo]

Yep, and her biggest sin was saying was a globalist, not a nationalist - inflaming the composite fury of the globalist press and commentating class.

Here's what she actually said:

The problem with her statement, Bullseye, is that it is almost entirely untrue. When Candace Owen said the following:

I actually don't have any problems at all with the word "nationalism." I think that the definition gets poisoned by elitists that actually want globalism.

Globalism is what I don't want. Whenever we say "nationalism," the first thing people think about, at least in America, is Hitler. You know, he was a national socialist, but if Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well, OK, fine. The problem is that he wanted — he had dreams outside of Germany.

He wanted to globalize. He wanted everybody to be German, everybody to be speaking German, everybody to look a different way. That's not, to me, that's not nationalism. In thinking about how we could go bad down the line, I don't really have an issue with nationalism. I really don't. I think that it's OK.

First off, Hitler wasn't a "globalist." Globalism, as it is generally described, is the promotion of the free movement of goods, capital and labor across national borders. It is free trade, often and international finance. And Adolf Hitler despised the idea of free trade and international finance, as he viewed them as tools by which other countries (countries run by Jews) sought to weaken stronger nations like Germany. He did not want to trade with the world, and sought to make Germany self-sufficient by empowering the local German economy. The problem with this of course is that it led to shortages of goods that Germany was simply unable or not competent at producing in great quantities. He wanted Germany to a be a self-sufficient, expansionistic, autarkic state.

Additionally, he didn't want everyone to look different. He didn't want everybody to become German. He wanted to exterminate entire populations of non-German peoples in a vast world-spanning racial conflict. So I find her statements balefully ignorant and trying to fit a mold that does not apply.

 

[jdog21]

White Nationalists aren't wanted and won't be tolerated...Not Now...Not Ever

Its not white supremacy. Its black nationalist, brown nationalists, red nationalists, white nationalists, yellow nationalists. Its called American Nationlism, all races, all genders, all religions, all sexualities, under one nation.

 

[Oborosen]

They'll be calling her uncle tom before you know it.

Most leftist already do.

 

[zimmer]

White Nationalists aren't wanted and won't be tolerated...Not Now...Not Ever

Don’t tell us about your intolerance of bigots.

You aren’t one lick better than those sick ****s. For you believe your Democrat Party are a bunch of violent bigots... and reveal being one yourself.*

In your own words from just one thread. I wonder what other fecal gems you’ve left throughout DP:

If you go into Blue State America you might have your ass kicked....

Sorry that is present day America...You wear offensive , bigoted clothing the reaction will not turn out well....Best leave it at home...You've been warned

Freedom to get your ass kicked

Bring it on.......You've been warned

Just being honest....Wear that hat at your peril.....

Being an admitted bigot, how can you “tolerate” yourself?

*The beauty of free speech.

PS. Nationalism is not White Nationalism. But, you’re too much of a thick-skulled bigot (proven by your posts above) to get simple facts straight.

 

[Bassman]

Yeah the Bitch is an Uncle Tom...Shilling for the White Nationalists

^^^^ People's Exhibit A Your Honor. A Leftist loon who hates it when blacks think for themselves.

 

[Mongidig]

The left hate Candice because she is smart and black. This does not fit their narrative of being a victim so they shout her down. They think she is gonna ruin it for the rest of them.

This reminds me of a routine that Sam Kinison used to do. He was talking about starving kids in Ethiopia. He say's you would think the cameraman could give the kid a sandwich....."Don't feed him yet". This is exactly what the left is doing to the black people. They keep them down and portray them as the victims. "Don't let them think they can be successful yet"!