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Rich people deserve the death penalty

A pension or Social Security can be a sizeable portion of net worth.

Using the 4% withdrawal rule a $40,000 a year pension or SS benefit is worth a million bucks by itself.
 
They make their money off exploiting others for their greed. They have their nice summer and winter homes meanwhile slashing benefits. Their people work 50-60 hours a week and they enjoy their golf. They deserve to be burnt at the stake. **** these people

I'm thinking that maybe it's a bad idea to promote mass murder. Have you thought of that one yet?
 
I'm thinking that maybe it's a bad idea to promote mass murder. Have you thought of that one yet?
How is it murder? Its punishment no different than the death penalty.
 
You're pro-death penalty?

I don't believe that governments should be in the business of murdering their own citizens.
Only in exceptions not typically. Usually the death penalty is used to disproportionately against poor and colored people. In the case of a rich oppressor, this is why we need a worker uprising and socialist revolution. These people who their sole existence is trampling on other people for their own greed they need punished. They are the true terrorists.
 
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1 in 5 Americans are millionaires. That likely includes a lot of people on this board myself included. And for the record I'm solidly middle class and still work part time even though I'm retired
I'm far from a million, but my property has appreciated over 300% since I bought it in early 2007. If I had known of the impending market crash, I would have waited. My mother's property has appreciated 500% since 2011, which for this area, was the bottom-out year. I don't pry and she doesn't talk about wealth, but it wouldn't surprise me a bit if her net worth was $1m+. She's certainly not upper class. Not upper-middle class.

The disparity in property values across the nation skews any attempt at comparing wealth using a set, low-value sum. $1m buys a small, one story, 3br, 2b home in San Jose. In Reno, it buys a similar home, but with twice the sq. footage. In St. Louis, a million dollars buys a 5,000 sq. ft. brick mansion or alternatively, 5 homes of the 3/2/1,200 type going for $1m in San Jose.

There are several developments underway in this area, most master-planned. Five Ridges is a mixed development, with phase one offering homes from $450k to the high $700s. Townhomes are also nearing completion. Future phases include pricier homes, which will likely touch $1m. Another development, Quilici Ranch, is in a superior location at the base of the Sierra; along the canyon where the Truckee River winds out of the mountains and begins to level off through the Truckee Meadows. Truly God's country (with the freeway thrown in for free and downtown 10 minutes away.) Construction has just begun, and a 3/2/2,400 is being offered at "expected" low $1,000,000s. This is to be a mixed development as well, but I don't predict any homes offered at $450k.

Million-dollar homes are still high end here, but it's getting to the point where these aren't gated communities as in the past, but average middle class neighborhoods.
 
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It was also a lot of people who couldn't stomach what Harris would have done to this country after 4 years of sleepy Joe.

I long for the days when we had a viable candidate for both major parties where we didn't have to swallow our pride to vote for one or the other. It's turned into voting against the "other" candidate instead of voting for one of them.
In a winner-takes-all two-party system where there's often only ever at most two viable candidates, it's very rare that you'll find someone who's views mostly aligns with your own that has any real chance of winning. I don't think I've ever voted in an election where I didn't feel like I was swallowing my pride to some degree. We have two parties that have a monopoly on politics and until more competition is introduced neither Democrats or Republicans have any real incentive to improve. And I doubt that will happen while we have a system that discourages competition.
 
I'm far from a million, but my property has appreciated over 300% since I bought it in early 2007. If I had known of the impending market crash, I would have waited. My mother's property has appreciated 500% since 2011, which for this area, was the bottom-out year. I don't pry and she doesn't talk about wealth, but it wouldn't surprise me a bit if her net worth was $1m+. She's certainly not upper class. Not upper-middle class.

The disparity in property values across the nation skews any attempt at comparing wealth using a set, low-value sum. $1m buys a small, one story, 3br, 2b home in San Jose. In Reno, it buys a similar home, but with twice the sq. footage. In St. Louis, a million dollars buys a 5,000 sq. ft. brick mansion or alternatively, 5 homes of the 3/2/1,200 type going for $1m in San Jose.

There are several developments underway in this area, most master-planned. Five Ridges is a mixed development, with phase one offering homes from $450k to the high $700s. Townhomes are also nearing completion. Future phases include pricier homes, which will likely touch $1m. Another development, Quilici Ranch, is in a superior location at the base of the Sierra; along the canyon where the Truckee River winds out of the mountains and begins to level off through the Truckee Meadows. Truly God's country (with the freeway thrown in for free and downtown 10 minutes away.) Construction has just begun, and a 3/2/2,400 is being offered at "expected" low $1,000,000s. This is to be a mixed development as well, but I don't predict any homes offered at $450k.

Million-dollar homes are still high end here, but it's getting to the point where these aren't gated communities as in the past, but average middle class neighborhoods.
I got lucky - we bought a nice house on a sizable piece of land (sizable for our area) in a good town in Suffolk County. When we bought in 1994 prices were low. The house more than quadrupled in value since then - it's latest valuation was 800K - and the only mortgage is 100K on a home equity loan. We also bought a vacation condo in a Vermont ski town that was similarly cheap and as similarly appreciated.

Last weekend my missus was visiting a childhood friend who lives in Queens County (of the 5 counties than make up NYC). She lives in a blue collar neighborhood where all the homes are tiny 1 and 2 family homes on postage stamp sized lots. Most were probably bought 30-50 years ago for 50-100K and all are worth well over a million. So your retired cop, fireman, plumber, dry cleaner, all are millionaires.

Other than that all we did was work hard - my wife left a corporate job when the kids were born, worked part time and then started a small part time business that earned her spending money. I worked 6, sometimes 7, days a week for years as software engineer, and later in management, saved alot and was lucky to stay with a company long enough to earn a decent pension which I took as a lump sum, along with my 401K, and had a professional money manager invest. The covid downturn hurt a lot but we've recouped much of what was lost.

We're probably not house rich/cash poor but things can be tight. We could probably survive well enough if I didn't work but I'm frankly obsessed with the idea that my wife has to have a lot of resources should I die before her and given that all the women in her family live well into their 90s and a couple into their 100s there's a good chance of that happening so I work. And anyway keeping busy, especially if it's stuff I like, is a good thing. The house will go to our daughter, who already owns her own house so she'll probably sell it and we'll just help our step daughter buy her first house. Whatever's left after that, if anything, they can split.
 
They make their money off exploiting others for their greed. They have their nice summer and winter homes meanwhile slashing benefits. Their people work 50-60 hours a week and they enjoy their golf. They deserve to be burnt at the stake. **** these people
I didn't know that Zohran Mamdani had joined this forum.

Mark
 
When will you get rich?

Oh, right. Never.
Do you see me whining and bitching like a pansy about how rich I am or am not ?....

You have no point to make, you're just mad that reality shows how petty the left is.
Sorry...
Have a nice day !
 
Employee owned businesses and co-ops could build the same profitable companies. We dont need capitalism for jobs.
If that's what people want who is stopping More of it?
 
I often wonder - is this a leftist or is it a righty pretending to be a leftist to make them look bad.
Not sure but lefties like that are out there.

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They make their money off exploiting others for their greed. They have their nice summer and winter homes meanwhile slashing benefits. Their people work 50-60 hours a week and they enjoy their golf. They deserve to be burnt at the stake. **** these people
But you are not greedy, pure as the driven snow. Lol
 
I am in the 1%, so probably on execution list.

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But I came, if not from poverty, from what would arguably be the economically at the very bottom end of the middle class and at a view points in my early childhood, at the upper end of the lower class. Certainly didn't get anything from my parents. After my mom's death, almost nothing left after nursing home and medical expenses.

Bottom line, I did it all on my own.

Capitalism allowed me to do that.

In a non-capitalistic system, I would have had almost no chance of bettering myself, short of being able to move up the ranks politically.

Which has give me a rather brusque view of anti-capitalism.

Politically and economically, I am first and foremost a capitalist. Every other political position is secondary.

(BTW, YES, there should be government regulations and limits and I eschew the extremist views on the right.)

(But I certainly eschew any anti-capitalist notions that arrive from certain portions of the left and no, I will not paint the entire left as anti-capitalists, as certain portions clearly are not.)

And frankly, Trump and his stupid tariffs and other stuff are as bad for capitalism as many of the proposals coming from the left.
Yea capitalism is great for greedy people lol
 
They make their money off exploiting others for their greed. They have their nice summer and winter homes meanwhile slashing benefits. Their people work 50-60 hours a week and they enjoy their golf. They deserve to be burnt at the stake. **** these people
You don't really mean this, do you?

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That's why everyone gets a trophy now. Kids, moms, and dads whined about the other guy. It just wasn't fair Ricky was MVP and little Johnny chasing bees in right field can't catch a cold.

Its a sense of entitlement they have on the left. We hear it when they cry pay your "fair share" etc.

Simply put, they covet while lacking ambition to succeed.
That's the worst thing for children. Everybody gets a trophy and an orange slice, or a pat on the head telling some kid who clearly didn't put forth what they are capable of doing, and telling them, "nice job, kid". The failure is letting children think competing isn't necessary for success.
 

Rich people deserve the death penalty​


Should we start with Oprah Winfrey and Taylor Swift? ;)
Add the Obamas to the list above.
I don't think some who start threads like this one think these things through. :giggle:
 
They make their money off exploiting others for their greed. They have their nice summer and winter homes meanwhile slashing benefits. Their people work 50-60 hours a week and they enjoy their golf. They deserve to be burnt at the stake. **** these people
it is far more complicated that that...

We like to imagine that wealthy people become rich through grit, genius, or sheer force of will—but the truth is far more collective. No one gets rich in a vacuum. Much of modern wealth is built not just on individual ambition, but on the invisible scaffolding of government investment—funded, of course, by the American taxpayer.


Take the internet, transistors, the railroad system, commercial aviation—none of these innovations sprang from private boardrooms. They were seeded, nurtured, and de-risked with public money. Defense contracts, university research grants, infrastructure subsidies—this is the soil in which Fortune 500 empires grew. Companies like Google, Intel, Boeing, and countless others owe their very existence to taxpayer-funded innovation.


And yet, there’s a dangerous illusion held by many of today’s ultra-wealthy: that once a certain level of wealth is reached, the ladder can be kicked away. They hoard. They offshore. They shelter income, not out of necessity, but entitlement. They treat the public coffers like a buffet—happy to take but outraged when asked to give anything back.


Not all of them, to be fair. Some wealthy individuals do believe in reinvestment, in giving back, in paying their fair share. But the dominant trend has been retreat—retreat from obligation, from civic duty, from the idea that wealth carries with it a debt to the society that made it possible.


This wasn’t always the case. During and before the Kennedy administration, the top marginal tax rate in the U.S. was over 90%—a figure mirrored in many Western nations at the time. But here's the twist: that rate didn’t cripple innovation. It channeled it. Rather than hoarding salaries, business leaders reinvested profits back into their companies. This reinvestment didn’t just benefit shareholders—it created jobs, raised wages, and built what we now nostalgically refer to as the “golden age” of American manufacturing.


It was the era of the rising middle class, of stable jobs and upward mobility. It was the American Dream, made real—because wealth circulated, not just accumulated.


But then the tide turned. Beginning in the late 1970s and accelerating with Reaganomics, tax rates were slashed, regulations gutted, and the myth of "trickle-down" economics took hold. The rich stopped investing in us, and began extracting from us. Public goods were defunded, unions were broken, pensions disappeared. The result? The slow, grinding decline of the American middle class. A hollowing out, not by accident, but by design.


And now, we’re watching the consequences unfold in real time. An economy rigged toward financialization, a workforce squeezed dry, and an elite class so detached from the public it once relied on that it now spends billions to build bunkers, escape pods, and private security states.


History doesn’t repeat, but it often rhymes. And the last time wealth inequality grew this wide, it ended in depression, unrest, and war.


So no—the rich didn’t do it alone. And they won’t be able to outrun the consequences alone either.

The core problem is this: the rich run the administration, and they own Congress—the very institutions meant to serve the people. Real change would require a complete overhaul of the upper echelons of government, a cleansing of the rot that’s seeped into every corner of power.


And perhaps the most poignant, bitter irony of all is this: the ultimate demise of the United States may come not by invasion, nor by collapse from below, but by appointment—from within. By elevating a billionaire grifter, a hollow symbol wrapped in gold leaf and narcissism, as the shining mantle of American greatness, we may have sealed our own decline.


The empire doesn’t fall with a bang—it crumbles from the rot at the top, while the rest of us argue over the ruins.

Diving Mullah
 
They make their money off exploiting others for their greed. They have their nice summer and winter homes meanwhile slashing benefits. Their people work 50-60 hours a week and they enjoy their golf. They deserve to be burnt at the stake. **** these people

Jealousy is pathetic.
 
You don't really mean this, do you?

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