Quinnipiac poll: President Trump's job approval sinks to 33%

[Fearandloathing]

The lib pollsters lie to make trump appear less popular than he really is

You have evidence of this alleged exaggeration?

If so bring it forward and we will compare it to Trumps exaggerations and lies.

If you don't have the goods and posted that it makes you a liar just like your man crush

 

[prometeus]

Or at least they don't want President Trump and/or the Republicans getting any credit for anything positive that happens. But so far as public opinion goes:

Just my two cents:

Quinnipac and most other polling organizations said Trump would never run for President. He did.
Quinnipac and most other polling organizations said Trump wouldn't win any primaries. He did.
Quinnipac and most other polling organizations said Trump would never be the GOP nominee. He was.
Quinnipac and most other polling organizations said Trump would never be elected President. He was.

Even the Las Vegas odds makers were taking huge odds that Hillary would win the election. She didn't.

And now, we are supposed to believe that Quinnipac and most other polling organizations magically acquired ability to accurately assess what the American people are thinking out there?

Never mind the polls. Why do you support a dishonest, incompetent, narcissist as President?

 

[Conservative]

OK, let me open your narrow minded eyes..... while I don't normally vote my own self interests, if I did, I would it would be a democratic vote. The PPACA actually helped my business (though I am not fond of the employer mandate). The Republican health plan is going to wreck havoc on my industry and will not be good for my business. Its not always a good idea to speak for the business owner when you have never been a business owner. There are often nuances to things that you will not comprehend if you have not directly lived them.

The fact that Trump has NO clue about health care and will pass any bill just for the sake of passing something shows us the danger of ignorance when it translates to compelled action. That is complete recklessness. That trait is going lead to some compulsive, ill-thought action on his part that puts our economy (and nation) at great risk.

And exactly how is the Republican plan going to hurt your workers, by giving them choice? You believe your state politicians won't pick up the slack for the Federal funding cuts? Now of course ACA helped you because it took away any responsibility you have for helping your employees by delegating that to someone else, the federal taxpayers. The fact is you are the one with the problem about personal responsibility issues, not me

 

[Mach]

Lets have an election now then.
Look, unless he gets control of himself and his staff, the chances of him surviving THIS term diminish daily. His ship is leaking, we just saw a complete transcript of a private phone call published in the press...his own people are against him.
Every time he opens his mouth the world recoils in horror and or laughter. He hasn't written one executive order that has done anything, he can't get rid of Obamacare or anything else he's promised in the 1st 100 days....and that's before we start counting up the lies.
He's flagrantly racist, hates Muslims and doesn't understand the basics of his own job. His greatest amount of time is now spent going to rallies where he can beat on liberals without having to be questioned.
As each passes he gets worse, not better. And if you are so smug and arrogant to think the US can't be damaged in a trade war...keep thinking that.

I thought it was a clearly fascetious one-liner, especially given that it's post #2. But I'm terrible at one-liners, I admit.

 

[AlbqOwl]

I would almost pay money to be able to answer a national poll that would ask question like:

Q. Do you approve of the way President Trump handled X?
Me. Not really (marked down by the pollster as NO.)
Q. Does this affect your confidence in President Trump?
Me. Not at all. (but the pollster never asks that do they?)

 

[AlbqOwl]

Never mind the polls. Why do you support a dishonest, incompetent, narcissist as President?

I don't. Which is why I am happy that we don't have one.

 

[prometeus]

I don't. Which is why I am happy that we don't have one.

Well clearly honesty and reality is something you avoid.
I suppose the constant lies are a sign of honesty and integrity for you. I will not go further since you have shown that intelectual integrity is not something you practice.

 

[Fearandloathing]

I thought it was a clearly fascetious one-liner, especially given that it's post #2. But I'm terrible at one-liners, I admit.

Sorry about that; I would normally catch that, but this is the era of the "Trumpie" and second posts like that are now the rule.

 

[AlbqOwl]

Well clearly honesty and reality is something you avoid.
I suppose the constant lies are a sign of honesty and integrity for you. I will not go further since you have shown that intelectual integrity is not something you practice.

And clearly you don't understand that once you go ad hominem and attack your opponent, you signal that you are out of ammo other than petty slogans and talking points and hand your opponent victory in the debate and in the argument.

 

[Jetboogieman]

I don't. Which is why I am happy that we don't have one.

Are you contending Trump isn't dishonest?

 

[Mac77]

Or at least they don't want President Trump and/or the Republicans getting any credit for anything positive that happens. But so far as public opinion goes:

Just my two cents:

Quinnipac and most other polling organizations said Trump would never run for President. He did.
Quinnipac and most other polling organizations said Trump wouldn't win any primaries. He did.
Quinnipac and most other polling organizations said Trump would never be the GOP nominee. He was.
Quinnipac and most other polling organizations said Trump would never be elected President. He was.

Even the Las Vegas odds makers were taking huge odds that Hillary would win the election. She didn't.

And now, we are supposed to believe that Quinnipac and most other polling organizations magically acquired ability to accurately assess what the American people are thinking out there?

According to the pollsters hillary should be president right now

 

[Mac77]

You have evidence of this alleged exaggeration?

If so bring it forward and we will compare it to Trumps exaggerations and lies.

If you don't have the goods and posted that it makes you a liar just like your man crush

The pollsters have a history of being wrong about trump

But that only convinces me that they cannot be trusted

Probably nothing will ever convince the trump haters of that

 

[prometeus]

And clearly you don't understand that once you go ad hominem and attack your opponent

Bull crap, you blatantly denied that Trump is a liar. That is nothing short of dishonest and you were called on it. That you now falsely cry ad hom only proved that you can not defend the dishonesty. Had you had any at least you would acknowledge your earlier error. Enjoy your victory.

 

[prometeus]

Are you contending Trump isn't dishonest?

Indeed and now that she was called on it cries ad hom and declares victory. Another demonstration of integrity by a Trumplican.

 

[upsideguy]

And exactly how is the Republican plan going to hurt your workers, by giving them choice? You believe your state politicians won't pick up the slack for the Federal funding cuts? Now of course ACA helped you because it took away any responsibility you have for helping your employees by delegating that to someone else, the federal taxpayers. The fact is you are the one with the problem about personal responsibility issues, not me

Again, you obviously haven't been a business owner and can not see the big picture. First, the problem with the Republican plan is that it isn't a plan at all (there was almost no thought put into it).... its a sham, whose only purpose is to free money to cut taxes. There is nothing articulated within the plan that "gives people more choices"... that was an unsupported, pie-in-the-sky statement made by the snake oil salesman that were bait and switching their constituents trying to pick their pockets so there would be money they could use to fund tax cuts that only the most wealthy would benefit from. It was only a income re-distribution plan.

My problem with the what the Republicans were peddling was it was taking a lot of money out of the healthcare system, particularly to the benefit of the poor and elderly. The PPACA did some very intelligent (because they actually thought about it and had hearings) re-alignment of the pay structures in health and rehabilitation, moving it from a pay for service model to one the rewarded successful outcomes. The model encouraged collaboration within the care continuum to ensure people were discharged quickly and care could continue in the home, which is my business.

Medicaid is an extremely important part of the healthcare system. It is the payor of last resort for the elderly (as far too many outlive their money) and poor (often the only way they get any healthcare). Sorry, but I find it reprehensible (and even barbaric) that people would consider taking money from those in need to give it to those that don't need it. Wealth disparity in the country is already a problem. Its continued growth is undermining the very economic and political foundation of our country, and thus threatens our long-term viability (its one of the reasons that 3% growth is hard to attain, but that is another topic).

In short, as a member of the healthcare community, I take issue with the Republican abortion of a healthcare bill for the same reasons most of my industry does.... because its not a healthcare bill, its rape....

GOP Health Care Bill Opposed By Medical Groups Of Doctors, Nurses, Hospitals : NPR

And, no, I do not trust states to do the right thing. They have little history of doing so. Sorry, but I am not into this notion that the United States is the equivalent of the EU and the states are the equivalent of little nations.

 

[upsideguy]

According to the pollsters hillary should be president right now

Once again, you fall into the fatal logic trap caused by confusing an presidential election poll with an opinion poll.

 

[exoplanet]

The lib pollsters lie to make trump appear less popular than he really is

OMG, I thought you were a liberal parodying a Trump supporter. :lol:

 

[JamesBY]

Not at all

He will lose personal wealth while president

Mueller is going to make him reveal his tax returns so we will see if you are right.

 

[JamesBY]

OMG, I thought you were a liberal parodying a Trump supporter. :lol:

. .

 

[Mac77]

Once again, you fall into the fatal logic trap caused by confusing an presidential election poll with an opinion poll.

There is no difference at all

In both cases liberal poilsters write the results first and then conduct a poll to get where they have to be

 

[Rogue Valley]

There is no difference at all

In both cases liberal poilsters write the results first and then conduct a poll to get where they have to be

Yes, yes, we know the kool-aid drill Mac. Every poll except Rasmussen is fake news.

 

[AlbqOwl]

According to the pollsters hillary should be president right now

That's what I mean. They were almost ALL wrong, including Quinnipac, some hugely so, which is why I don't give them much credit for getting it right now. But they keep telling us how unpopular President Trump is just the same. If they are polling at random and happen to hit liberalville pockets or Snowflakes instead of working class likely voters, they are not going to really know what the people who pay the taxes and also vote are thinking.

 

[upsideguy]

There is no difference at all

In both cases liberal poilsters write the results first and then conduct a poll to get where they have to be

That's what I mean. They were almost ALL wrong, including Quinnipac, some hugely so, which is why I don't give them much credit for getting it right now. But they keep telling us how unpopular President Trump is just the same. If they are polling at random and happen to hit liberalville pockets or Snowflakes instead of working class likely voters, they are not going to really know what the people who pay the taxes and also vote are thinking.

Huge difference.... An election poll is a compound poll which STARTS with an opinion poll and overlays an election turnout forecast. Then, for a US presidential election, must be done 51 times. Furthermore, the election poll must forecast all of this as of a date certain, where an opinion poll is merely a contemporary reading. The ability to err in a US election forecast is several orders of magnitude above the ability to err in an opinion.

Moreover, remember, that the national election poll for Hillary had her up by 2 at the end. She won the popular vote by 2.

Yes, yes, we know the kool-aid drill Mac. Every poll except Rasmussen is fake news.

...and as Rasmussen is the only legitimate poll, we should note it recently had Trump with a 61% disapproval (as they do not allow "undecideds"), which is the highest disapproval rating for Trump* from any poll. Anyway you slice it, the majority of America (and, we are suppose be about the majority), thinks Trump* is a loser of president.

61% --- filibuster proof...

 

[Puigb]

You've simply verified my point from another angle. I agree whole heartedly, "doesn't matter at this point" - which is what I was saying to those who claimed Trump could never get reelected let alone get elected. The only Democrat with a semi-national profile and name recognition is Elizabeth Warren and I guarantee more people are deathly afraid of her socialist "solutions" than are in favour of supporting them. Trump against Pocahontas would be a toss up and likely favour Trump.

Anything can happen between now and then. Trump the " political outsider" opened up the doors for a lot more people to run now. It wouldn't shock me to see another "outsider" come and beat Trump at his own game.

 

[Puigb]

That's what I mean. They were almost ALL wrong, including Quinnipac, some hugely so, which is why I don't give them much credit for getting it right now. But they keep telling us how unpopular President Trump is just the same. If they are polling at random and happen to hit liberalville pockets or Snowflakes instead of working class likely voters, they are not going to really know what the people who pay the taxes and also vote are thinking.

lol, so only "working class" voters support Trump, eh?

Keep up that rhetoric. A tidal wave may just come and boot your orange president out the door sooner than you think. And I suspect the next president will make it his or her #1 goal to obliterate anything Trump accomplishes (which at this point, is basically nothing). Be careful what you wish for "snowflake", because karma could end up biting you in the ass.