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Quinnipiac poll: President Trump's job approval sinks to 33%

These low paying jobs are a result of Obama. His budget doesn't end until October 1st. Then we are under the Trump budget. So you can't blame Trump for this.


What does the budget have to do with it?
 
You do realize that Obummer was president during over half that time span don't you?

I sure do which is why I am posting the comparison which of course you want to ignore, now answer the question? Ever run a business? Business today knows that they aren't going to be punished for success like they were under Obama and his class warfare
 
What does the budget have to do with it?

Nothing at all, the budget doesn't matter at all, but rather how it is spent. Over 1 million jobs have been created since Trump took office and those are new taxpayers which are why we have a lower debt now than when Trump took office

https://treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current

The left gets very confused by facts and for some reason believes a budget is a spending appropriation. they have the same misunderstanding about business. Higher taxes and more regulations do not promote job creation
 
Leaderless might be a good thing for the Dems. Obummer won largely because he had no baggage. People who are unknown are far less likely to have the type of baggage that Hillary did.

That's an excellent point - hard to gain a favourable national profile though in a short period of time. I'm thinking of Huntsman when I say that - an eminently decent and competent man who no one seemed to know and never got any traction. And every politician has baggage of some sort. Incumbancy is powerful - all but Bush 1 have been reelected in the last 40 years or so.
 
The lib pollsters lie to make trump appear less popular than he really is

Rasmussen, who the Cons were touting as the only legit poll not long ago, has Trump* with a 59% disapprove.

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reportsâ„¢

The 33% approval reported today will not be the low bar for long. The Trump* libbo can only go so far as this government by the minority is not sustainable. The guy is a lame duck 6 months in. To quote Trump*: sad!

The Pence watch is in full forward...
 
Rasmussen, who the Cons were touting as the only legit poll not long ago, has Trump* with a 59% disapprove.

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reportsâ„¢

The 33% approval reported today will not be the low bar for long. The Trump* libbo can only go so far as this government by the minority is not sustainable. The guy is a lame duck 6 months in. To quote Trump*: sad!

The Pence watch is in full forward...

Yep, with numbers like these I can see why the progressives and left are going ballistic. Your ideology is dying hard but it is dying

https://treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current

This year vs. July last year

Employed 160.5 million vs 159.3 or 1.2 million more

Labor Participation rate 62.9 vs. 62.8

Employed 153.5 vs 151.5 or 2 million MORE

Part time for economic reasons 5.28 million vs . 5.93 million or 600,000 less

Discouraged workers 536K vs 591K or over 50,000 less

U-6 8.6 vs. 9.7

Inside the numbers look pretty damn good vs. Obama's
 
These low paying jobs are a result of Obama. His budget doesn't end until October 1st. Then we are under the Trump budget. So you can't blame Trump for this.

Fair enough. Somebody else started talking about Trump's great economy, and I mentioned that that was inherited from Obama. We'll watch Trump implode, as the 1%ers continue to capitalize. What's really got Trump's ratings in a tailspin are his lies, his lack of cohesiveness with his cabinet, and his unpresidential tweating and other remarks.
 
Fair enough. Somebody else started talking about Trump's great economy, and I mentioned that that was inherited from Obama. We'll watch Trump implode, as the 1%ers continue to capitalize. What's really got Trump's ratings in a tailspin are his lies, his lack of cohesiveness with his cabinet, and his unpresidential tweating and other remarks.

Oh, I agree, Trump is trash, but just because his supporters make crap up doesn't mean I should do it. I like to think critically. You should try that too.
 
Such polls are interesting only as a reflection of what's happening at the moment and the media drives the narrative at such times. The media has spent little time on the President's successes to date, prime one for conservatives being returning the Supreme Court to a center right panel for decades to come.

As for Trump getting reelected, I wouldn't be so quick to claim it's out of the question. You have to remember that elections in the US are toss ups these days with the country very polarized. And it's also important to remember that the Democrats are totally leaderless at this point in time. Who's the favourite to be nominated in 2020? No one on the Democrat's side has the national profile.

If the Republican House and Senate get their acts together and pass Trump's proposals for a budget and tax reform and finds a way to do something with the ACA, Trump could return to the popularity that got him elected.

Trump never had any massive popularity that got him elected. He barely won against the worst candidate the Democrats ever fielded.

As for the Democrats having nobody, doesn't matter at this point. Anything can happen between now and 2020. After Romney got his ass handed to him in 2012, nobody thought some birther Reality T.V. star who was friends with Bill and Hillary Clinton would suddenly become a heroic figure to "conservatives" everywhere. NOBODY in 2012 thought Trump would be the GOP nominee in 2016, likely not even Trump himself.
 
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Leaderless might be a good thing for the Dems. Obummer won largely because he had no baggage. People who are unknown are far less likely to have the type of baggage that Hillary did.

Nah, Obama won because Bush Jr. was a lousy president, and any Democrat was going to get elected in 2008. Don't get me wrong, Obama ran a very good campaign, and had an impressive victory in 2008, but let's face it, 2008 was an extremely toxic year for Republicans. Even Hillary would have beaten McCain in 2008.
 
A lot of that 40% who support him only do that because of his party affiliation. I suspect that if a well known republican runs against him in the primary, he may not even get the nomination.

I agree. Most of Trump's support at this point is because he's a Republican. These same people would have been supporting any other Republican.

The whole "Trump movement" is overrated. Trump's core supporters are mostly just typical Republican voters. Most of the same people who voted for Romney and McCain...voted for Trump.
 
Yep, with numbers like these I can see why the progressives and left are going ballistic. Your ideology is dying hard but it is dying

https://treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current

This year vs. July last year

Employed 160.5 million vs 159.3 or 1.2 million more

Labor Participation rate 62.9 vs. 62.8

Employed 153.5 vs 151.5 or 2 million MORE

Part time for economic reasons 5.28 million vs . 5.93 million or 600,000 less

Discouraged workers 536K vs 591K or over 50,000 less

U-6 8.6 vs. 9.7

Inside the numbers look pretty damn good vs. Obama's

Thank you for continuing to be impressed with Obama's economy. Though all of us here on DP marvel at how much you love Obama's results, we laugh at the fact you just can't bring yourself to thinking he actually did a pretty good job. Rest assured, however, that we know exactly what you are really saying, even if you can't bring yourself to say it.

We are now 6 months into the Trump* presidency. About now you can suggest he gets some credit / blame for the economy as it moves forward from here. That said, its all likely to be very short lived. You know about the arrogant, ignorant, thin-skinned, narcissistic man-child that I warned you about last fall; you know, the one that said he could not do that job; well his 35% approval rating 6 months in is proof positive that he can't.

I do apologize, however, as I did not see that his narcissism would lead him to conducting himself with treasonous intent, which he not only appears to have done, but continues to do daily. I have never seen a POTUS so clearly put his personal interests ahead of that of his country. Benedict Arnold had more love for America than the sitting POTUS.

... I frankly did not believe Trump*s personality faults could be that expansive. How does one guy get so many negative attributes? Way more than his share. Anyway, it is a shame, as he is so pathetic of a POTUS that the Dems were sure to clean house in 2018 and 2020... but, now the Pence is measuring the drapes in the oval office... well, two years of a Pence administration might actually stabilize the Republican party, allow them to get some things done and give them a fighting chance in 2020.

Trump* is actually so pathetic of a President (and human being, really) that I sometimes find myself feeling sorry for him. His father must have really been a piece of work.
 
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Nah, Obama won because Bush Jr. was a lousy president, and any Democrat was going to get elected in 2008. Don't get me wrong, Obama ran a very good campaign, and had an impressive victory in 2008, but let's face it, 2008 was an extremely toxic year for Republicans. Even Hillary would have beaten McCain in 2008.

Obama was a pretty good candidate, in any election.
 
Obama was a pretty good candidate, in any election.

i never said he wasn't, but 2008 was going to the Democrats, regardless of who won the nomination.
 
Trump never had any massive popularity that got him elected. He barely won against the worst candidate the Democrats ever fielded.

As for the Democrats having nobody, doesn't matter at this point. Anything can happen between now and 2020. After Romney got his ass handed to him in 2012, nobody thought some birther Reality T.V. star who was friends with Bill and Hillary Clinton would suddenly become a heroic figure to "conservatives" everywhere. NOBODY in 2012 thought Trump would be the GOP nominee in 2016, likely not even Trump himself.

You've simply verified my point from another angle. I agree whole heartedly, "doesn't matter at this point" - which is what I was saying to those who claimed Trump could never get reelected let alone get elected. The only Democrat with a semi-national profile and name recognition is Elizabeth Warren and I guarantee more people are deathly afraid of her socialist "solutions" than are in favour of supporting them. Trump against Pocahontas would be a toss up and likely favour Trump.
 
You've simply verified my point from another angle. I agree whole heartedly, "doesn't matter at this point" - which is what I was saying to those who claimed Trump could never get reelected let alone get elected. The only Democrat with a semi-national profile and name recognition is Elizabeth Warren and I guarantee more people are deathly afraid of her socialist "solutions" than are in favour of supporting them. Trump against Pocahontas would be a toss up and likely favour Trump.

You can't guarantee anything. Puigb has the right of it, and time will shift all of this again.
 
Thank you for continuing to be impressed with Obama's economy. Though all of us here on DP marvel at how much you love Obama's results, we laugh at the fact you just can't bring yourself to thinking he actually did a pretty good job. Rest assured, however, that we know exactly what you are really saying, even if you can't bring yourself to say it.

We are now 6 months into the Trump* presidency. About now you can suggest he gets some credit / blame for the economy as it moves forward from here. That said, its all likely to be very short lived. You know about the arrogant, ignorant, thin-skinned, narcissistic man-child that I warned you about last fall; you know, the one that said he could not do that job; well his 35% approval rating 6 months in is proof positive that he can't.

I do apologize, however, as I did not see that his narcissism would lead him to conducting himself with treasonous intent, which he not only appears to have done, but continues to do daily. I have never seen a POTUS so clearly put his personal interests ahead of that of his country. Benedict Arnold had more love for America than the sitting POTUS.

... I frankly did not believe Trump*s personality faults could be that expansive. How does one guy get so many negative attributes? Way more than his share. Anyway, it is a shame, as he is so pathetic of a POTUS that the Dems were sure to clean house in 2018 and 2020... but, now the Pence is measuring the drapes in the oval office... well, two years of a Pence administration might actually stabilize the Republican party, allow them to get some things done and give them a fighting chance in 2020.

Trump* is actually so pathetic of a President (and human being, really) that I sometimes find myself feeling sorry for him. His father must have really been a piece of work.

What I am shocked about is the disconnect between the left and reality. How did that Obama economic success lead to the Republicans taking the House in 2010-2012 and the Congress in 2014-16? What you are doing is destroying your credibility in claiming that you are a business owner because no business owner would grow under the Obama policies of punishment and class warfare for success. Business today knows they won't be punished by higher taxes and more anti business regulations like ACA, EPA so they are growing. Great to have a pro business President and that is something you and the rest of the radical left doesn't understand. It really is sad to see someone and so many with such hatred that it blinds them to economic policies and actual results.
 
You can't guarantee anything. Puigb has the right of it, and time will shift all of this again.

Eventually actual results will shine through and open eyes as the American people will always vote their pocketbooks
 
Obama was a pretty good candidate, in any election.

I am sure most businesses hire people because of perception and ignore their resume. Obama was an empty suit, community agitator with no executive or leadership experience and his results show exactly that
 
I am sure most businesses hire people because of perception and ignore their resume. Obama was an empty suit, community agitator with no executive or leadership experience and his results show exactly that
His results were a recovered economy, an American people who felt better about themselves and America generally. He, however, failed in bringing in the economically failing red county Americans from Kentucky through the upper MidWest. That is why Trump won the narrowest of victories by 77000 votes in normally Democratic states. Nothing Trump has done in the first six months of his term has shown any reason that victory should repeat itself.
 
His results were a recovered economy, an American people who felt better about themselves and America generally. He, however, failed in bringing in the economically failing red county Americans from Kentucky through the upper MidWest. That is why Trump won the narrowest of victories by 77000 votes in normally Democratic states. Nothing Trump has done in the first six months of his term has shown any reason that victory should repeat itself.

Yes, the 1.6% GDP Growth, 9.4% U-6 rate, and 9.3 trillion added to the debt showed exactly how successful Obama was. None of those numbers ever achieved pre recession numbers after 8 years of rhetoric. the results speak for themselves and flyover country got it. You can continue to fool those in the major metropolitan area but when you screw with their finances, you get burned. Obama abandoned the middle class and promoted class warfare, envy and punished businesses for being successful. That isn't the American way in spite of what the radicals want to believe
 
Such polls are interesting only as a reflection of what's happening at the moment and the media drives the narrative at such times. The media has spent little time on the President's successes to date, prime one for conservatives being returning the Supreme Court to a center right panel for decades to come.

As for Trump getting reelected, I wouldn't be so quick to claim it's out of the question. You have to remember that elections in the US are toss ups these days with the country very polarized. And it's also important to remember that the Democrats are totally leaderless at this point in time. Who's the favourite to be nominated in 2020? No one on the Democrat's side has the national profile.

If the Republican House and Senate get their acts together and pass Trump's proposals for a budget and tax reform and finds a way to do something with the ACA, Trump could return to the popularity that got him elected.

Why should a Dem front runner make him self known now, Trump will only bash the individual with untruths and fake news stories, its his MO. The Dems are best keeping quiet, Donny will not last 4 years, not at his current trajectory.
 
Why should a Dem front runner make him self known now, Trump will only bash the individual with untruths and fake news stories, its his MO. The Dems are best keeping quiet, Donny will not last 4 years, not at his current trajectory.

You are so right, untruths like the economic numbers Obama left him with, 1.6% GDP Growth, 9.4% U-6, and 9.3 trillion in debt. Guess those numbers don't exist in your world nor do the economic numbers I have posted in this site for job creation. It really is fun dealing with liberals like you because it is easy to refute your rhetoric with something you don't understand, FACTS

This year vs. July last year

Employed 160.5 million vs 159.3 or 1.2 million more

Labor Participation rate 62.9 vs. 62.8

Employed 153.5 vs 151.5 or 2 million MORE

Part time for economic reasons 5.28 million vs . 5.93 million or 600,000 less

Discouraged workers 536K vs 591K or over 50,000 less

U-6 8.6 vs. 9.7

Inside the numbers look pretty damn good vs. Obama's

Keep ignoring reality and ignoring the middle class and flyover country
 
Yea, but what about the conservative pollsters? Are they lying to make trump look bad also?

There are conservative pollsters

But they are all part of the swamp and work for the republican swamp creature

So not even they are totally reliable
 
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