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President Trump: Democrats Using Immigrants as ‘Political Pawns’

American said:
Nope, the agreement is still there. Legislation is still needed to fix our immigration problem, unless you're a disingenuous disgusting Democrat that is just looking for voters................like Schumer and Pelosi.
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legislation is needed for immigration reform...Interesting Republicans have blocked every bill that came forward.
 
ClaraD said:
Amen, you hit the nail on the head. He knew Democrats would scream like hell...he did not count on half of Republicans screaming like hell.
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Trump imposed vicious border policies partly to fire up the base, because his big "win" -- the tax cut -- is still unpopular. Now Swampy is imposing ill-advised tariffs, partly to fire up the base, because family separations are so unpopular.
 
JasperL said:
How else can we explain Hillary getting more votes than her getting more votes? She got more votes. That's an easy question!!

And if you think millions of illegals voted, you should be able to point to the evidence by now. So point. Let's see it.
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At the very time CNN declared Trump the winner of the 2016 presidential election Trump was also ahead in the popular
vote so the votes that came in later from California did nothing but ensure Clinton getting the 55 electoral votes we
all new she would get.

Pretty easily! Let's go to California where Clinton got all the votes she needs for a plurality:
Clinton 8,753,798
Trump 4,483,810 https://www.sportsbookreview.com/fo...passes-sanders-now-fav-win-nomination-p2.html

So Clinton won the plurality one state California by 4,270,000 votes
While Trump won the plurality in the other 49 states by over 1,500,000 votes

The Democrats received over 4 million more votes in California than Trump.
In bizarroville California where people with driver liscenses become voter
eligible how many of the huge waves of illegals since 1980
who are sheltered in this odd sanctuary state voted & how many conservative
who realized their vote wouldn’t matter stay home

From OneNewsNow:

During a hearing before a Senate committee, President Pro Tem Kevin De Leon said it's common knowledge that illegal aliens obtain fraudulent documents to "survive" and find work in California. It sounds like a charge of criminal conspiracy if you openly talk about knowledge of a crime, says William Gheen of Americans for Legal Immigration PAC, or ALIPAC.
"He's talking about them flagrantly as if he has no fear of law enforcement," Gheen complains, "and that's what needs to change in America.”

De Leon told the committee that "half of my family would be eligible for deportation" under a Trump executive order,
because they have obtained false documents. He named Social Security cards, drivers' licenses, and immigration "green"
cards as examples of false identification. The lawmaker didn't back up from his stance either. He went on a radio show
the following day and named a Los Angeles location – McArthur Park – where the falsified documents can be purchased. https://onenewsnow.com/politics-govt/2017/02/08/need-fake-ss-card-ca-lawmaker-can-help

Only in CA can a lawmaker be a lawbreaker and get away with it. Get away with it he’s actually bragging about it.
 
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ThatNewsGuy said:
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During the 2016 election, we witnessed a gross display of how the Democrats use illegal aliens as a voting tool. Democrats deny that illegals were voting. How else can you explain Hillary getting the popular vote when she couldn’t even fill a school gym. Trump said in a speech last week that Democrats are using immigrants as “political pawns.” Read More - https://westernfreepress.com/president-trump-democrats-immigrants-political-pawns/
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A) Illegal immigrants were not voting. Remember the claim they were? Remember the Trump administrations large voter fraud committee? Remember how it was disbanded because it didn't find anything? The amount of people voting illegally in this country is almost non-existent. Most of the illegal voting occurs when someone votes in a state they no longer live in.

B) As for using immigrants as a political pawn..."Build that wall", as well as constant rhetoric about gangs, infestation of illegals etc...that's coming from Trump and the Republicans. Democrats didn't run on immigration. Trump did. That was a cornerstone of the Trump campaign.
 
slick said:
At the very time CNN declared Trump the winner of the 2016 presidential election Trump was also ahead in the popular
vote so the votes that came in later from California did nothing but ensure Clinton getting the 55 electoral votes we
all new she would get.

Pretty easily! Let's go to California where Clinton got all the votes she needs for a plurality:
Clinton 8,753,798
Trump 4,483,810

So Clinton won the plurality one state California by 4,270,000 votes
While Trump won the plurality in the other 49 states by over 1,500,000 votes

The Democrats received over 4 million more votes in California than Trump.
In bizarroville California where people with driver liscenses become voter
eligible how many of the huge waves of illegals since 1980
who are sheltered in this odd sanctuary state voted & how many conservative
who realized their vote wouldn’t matter stay home

During a hearing before a Senate committee, President Pro Tem Kevin De Leon said it's common knowledge that illegal aliens obtain
fraudulent documents to "survive" and find work in California. It sounds like a charge of criminal conspiracy if you openly talk about
knowledge of a crime, says William Gheen of Americans for Legal Immigration PAC, or ALIPAC.
"He's talking about them flagrantly as if he has no fear of law enforcement,"
Gheen complains, "and that's what needs to change in America.”

De Leon told the committee that "half of my family would be eligible for deportation" under a Trump executive order,
because they have obtained false documents. He named Social Security cards, drivers' licenses, and immigration "green"
cards as examples of false identification. The lawmaker didn't back up from his stance either. He went on a radio show
the following day and named a Los Angeles location – McArthur Park – where the falsified documents can be purchased.
Only in CA can a lawmaker be a lawbreaker and get away with it. Get away with it he’s actually bragging about it.
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Why did you type all that without providing a shred of evidence even 1 illegal voted, in CA or anywhere else?
 
ThatNewsGuy said:
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During the 2016 election, we witnessed a gross display of how the Democrats use illegal aliens as a voting tool. Democrats deny that illegals were voting. How else can you explain Hillary getting the popular vote when she couldn’t even fill a school gym. Trump said in a speech last week that Democrats are using immigrants as “political pawns.” Read More - https://westernfreepress.com/president-trump-democrats-immigrants-political-pawns/
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Well, in that case he is 100% correct. Illegals are indeed being used by the Left as political pawns. They tend to play that way.
 
iliveonramen said:
A) Illegal immigrants were not voting. Remember the claim they were? Remember the Trump administrations large voter fraud committee? Remember how it was disbanded because it didn't find anything? The amount of people voting illegally in this country is almost non-existent. Most of the illegal voting occurs when someone votes in a state they no longer live in.

B) As for using immigrants as a political pawn..."Build that wall", as well as constant rhetoric about gangs, infestation of illegals etc...that's coming from Trump and the Republicans. Democrats didn't run on immigration. Trump did. That was a cornerstone of the Trump campaign.
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"Remember the Trump administrations large voter fraud committee? Remember how it was disbanded because it didn't find anything?"

It was disbanded because many of the blue states where voter fraud was prevalent refused to submit required documents that
were needed in order to evaluate how much fraud was actually occurring. Not because it didn't find anything.
 
slick said:
"Remember the Trump administrations large voter fraud committee? Remember how it was disbanded because it didn't find anything?"

It was disbanded because many of the blue states where voter fraud was prevalent refused to submit required documents that
were needed in order to evaluate how much fraud was actually occurring. Not because it didn't find anything.
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Sure, voter fraud was rampant just in blue states where Trump lost. That is the only possible reason he lost those states....
 
ThatNewsGuy said:
Since you started the debate, you prove that there were no Illegals voting. That is how debates work. I showed you where your satanic ex-president told them to, you prove that they didn't
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You started this thread with the accusation of illegals voting..... so it is up to you to prove what you spew your numbers out?
 
ClaraD said:
legislation is needed for immigration reform...Interesting Republicans have blocked every bill that came forward.
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What has Schumer and Pelosi voted for?
 
American said:
What has Schumer and Pelosi voted for?
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They would have voted for any bills that they were able to materially participate in the drafting thereof. I would not expect a Republican to vote for a bill on which they were shut out of the drafting process, nor should you expect a Democratic vote when there is no participation in the bill making process.
 
upsideguy said:
They would have voted for any bills that they were able to materially participate in the drafting thereof. I would not expect a Republican to vote for a bill on which they were shut out of the drafting process, nor should you expect a Democratic vote when there is no participation in the bill making process.
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Who says they want to. Seems Schumer hasn't been getting along with McConnell (who I don't really like).
 
ThatNewsGuy said:
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During the 2016 election, we witnessed a gross display of how the Democrats use illegal aliens as a voting tool. Democrats deny that illegals were voting. How else can you explain Hillary getting the popular vote when she couldn’t even fill a school gym. Trump said in a speech last week that Democrats are using immigrants as “political pawns.” Read More - https://westernfreepress.com/president-trump-democrats-immigrants-political-pawns/
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Trump is right, the Democrats, who don't control either the White House, the Senate or the House are stopping the Republican majority from doing what, exactly?

The other statements, which sound like they are emanating from the babbling incoherent drunk at the end of the bar, are complete lies. Democrats deny that illegals were voting for one simple reason -- "illegals" were not voting.

There are facts, there are opinions and there are lies. As Daniel Patrick Moynihan famously said, "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts."
 
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