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Pope Tells Gay Man: ‘God Made You Like This and Loves You Like This’

False doctrine from the fake leader of the faux church? You don't say!

It's hilarious how some people hate everything Christians say about anything... until they say something "pro-gay".
 
Except for one little detail...

My Shepard said "let he who has not sinnned cast the first stone..."

The Catholic Church continues a designed and deliberate cover up of men who have sexually abused children. Until the Pope's gang of robe wearing "experts" go to jail for their crimes, he's as guilty as they are.

It's why I said we ALL are sinners. BTW, about that one little detail....Jesus continues...


“Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”
 
It's why I said we ALL are sinners. BTW, about that one little detail....Jesus continues...


“Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”

What about it?

My issue is the brand of Christianity in the US where its members judge others because of economic, race, or religious status. I have never seen any teachings from The Carpenter that say I have any right to judge another. As you pointed out, we are all sinners, we will never not be. We have no right to say this or that is a sin, we have no right to castigate gays or trans gendered, and we individually have NO right to judge anyone on their sexual practices, especially when they're one financial practices amounts to worshiping money.

The only problem I have with Christians is when Christians tell me **** like I can't wear sandals in church. Jesus did
 
False doctrine from the fake leader of the faux church? You don't say!

It's hilarious how some people hate everything Christians say about anything... until they say something "pro-gay".

Only you believe in THE ONE TRUE CHURCH!!!! lol
 
Only you believe in THE ONE TRUE CHURCH!!!! lol

Not true...find the ones who strictly adhere to the teachings of Christ without making up their own rules/doctrines/traditions as they go along and you have found it....
 
What about it?

My issue is the brand of Christianity in the US where its members judge others because of economic, race, or religious status. I have never seen any teachings from The Carpenter that say I have any right to judge another. As you pointed out, we are all sinners, we will never not be. We have no right to say this or that is a sin, we have no right to castigate gays or trans gendered, and we individually have NO right to judge anyone on their sexual practices, especially when they're one financial practices amounts to worshiping money.

The only problem I have with Christians is when Christians tell me **** like I can't wear sandals in church. Jesus did

You can't wear sandals to church?
Let me emphasize that many Christians get offended when we are grouped onto one size fits all category. Don't let the extremists fool you. Some just didn't get the message yet and are instead regurgitating something once a week. I had a Catholic tell me that she missed the days when mass was in Latin, because it was more festive. That doesn't mean all Catholics are the same. Many are Bible believing Christians and are thankful that Francis is rather ?refreshing.
Organized religion can lead us down a dangerous path. The less people know about the Bible, the easier they are led astray. There are some good churches out there, the ones that preach love thy neighbor, no matter who they are.
 
not true...find the ones who strictly adhere to the teachings of christ without making up their own rules/doctrines/traditions as they go along and you have found it....

in your opinion!!!!! Lol
 
You can't wear sandals to church?
Let me emphasize that many Christians get offended when we are grouped onto one size fits all category. Don't let the extremists fool you. Some just didn't get the message yet and are instead regurgitating something once a week. I had a Catholic tell me that she missed the days when mass was in Latin, because it was more festive. That doesn't mean all Catholics are the same. Many are Bible believing Christians and are thankful that Francis is rather ?refreshing.
Organized religion can lead us down a dangerous path. The less people know about the Bible, the easier they are led astray. There are some good churches out there, the ones that preach love thy neighbor, no matter who they are.

I have sought and walked a one-on-one relationship with the God of my understanding who spoke to me long before I could say the word "Jesus". Make a long story short I did not die that day and soon landed in AA. I have been a member of a very conservative congregation of Plymouth Brethren was am Anglican briefly, a few years with a non-denominational 'community church" who thought God called them there to "heal" gays.

Most recently I was a Baptist, a very liberal denomination with a lesbian pastor at the time.

In AA I served for nearly 10 years in various capacities as groups interrelate and problems need resolving by "trusted servants". Baptists had deacons and councilors, where money is dealt with, and I was called to the latter where I served as "at large". Prior to that I worked in paid ministry running my Social Enterprise gardening company to employ people with barriers, usually drugs and mental illness. I loved those years working in AA, but working for the church was its own hell of egos, self involvement and corruption.

It was in these capacities, where business and money came in where I became totally disillusioned and against organized religion all together. Corruption is a strong word, but I have no hesitation is using it. No, no one is lining their pockets that I saw, but people get jobs because of who they know; have very easy jobs with few requirements to show results and in the end everyone involved is out for their own position first. In our case we had a youth pastor who wasn't doing her job and as a result in a few years all the families with teens went down the street where they had "teen programs" and we were now short on money every month, the same amount as the salary of the youth pastor who now had only 7 and younger to deal with.

Worse, she had been upgrading herself in seminary school, courses the church paid for so now she was collecting double what would normally be paid to a youth pastor as she was paid on level of education not the job. No one saw anything wrong with this, except it had come about as the pastor being chummy best friends of the previous head of council.

Then I was assigned to participate in a study being done by the province of British Columbia on NGO's. It was telephone survey, over three days an hour or two each day. It soon became evident they were, among other things, studying how much actual $ was used for alms. After the three days and what I'd learned by answer questions was that we existed to keep three pastors working, and donate about .5 pr cent of our $330,000 budget each year.

The God of my understanding notified me when I was done being on that council and I left without a word. Since then I have a new assignment, and it involves no money, nothing out of pocket and no real work and no association with any organized religion. What I do sounds simple and is hard top explain without it sounding self serving, but for the first time in my life, beginning seven years ago I am as happy as I have ever been.

The sandals comment came when I attended a "United Church" how I am usually dressed, 'ultra second hand casual' and got several stony looks so I smiled and asked. The lady said huffily that she didn't consider sandals "appropriate". So I said "I guess Jesus isn't welcome then either...good bye."
 
Only you believe in THE ONE TRUE CHURCH!!!! lol

I have read the scriptures, and I know that if your church isn't doing what the apostles did in the book of Acts - then, your church is teaching false doctrine.

Jesus gave the "keys to Heaven" to Peter - so, if the Pope is supposedly the "embodiment of Peter" WHY doesn't he teach what Peter taught???

"Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation. Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers." - Acts 2:38-42
 
Sin is harmful, is it not?

It is.... however, if you are a Christian, you realize no sin is too great to be forgiven in God's boundless grace. May I point out that should you divorce your spouse and then later remarry, you are actively committing the sin of adultery.

"Matthew 5:31 “It has been said, ‘Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.’[f] 32 But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, makes her the victim of adultery, and anyone who marries a divorced woman commits adultery...."

Do you believe such a person has fallen from God's grace? No, (s)he hasn't.

Frankly, a "gay" person is no more lost to the Kingdom than a divorced/remarried person.... actually, no more than anyone, as all have fallen short

Romans 3:23 "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God"
 
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It is.... however, if you are a Christian, you realize no sin is too great to be forgiven in God's boundless grace. May I point out that should you divorce your spouse and then later remarry, you are actively committing the sin of adultery. Do you believe such a person has fallen from God's grace? No, (s)he hasn't.

True but that does not make us exempt from our actions, we still have to suffer the consequences of what we have done...
 
True but that does not make us exempt from our actions, we still have to suffer the consequences of what we have done...

We are ALL born into sin, and we ALL have to be born again.

God did not make Juan Carlos "that way," and He does not "love him that way."


...but God still loves Juan Carlos, and would love for him to repent.
 
True but that does not make us exempt from our actions, we still have to suffer the consequences of what we have done...

Not really true. If you seek forgiveness, God sees you as if you never sinned at all.... you are perfect.

1 John 1:9 "If we freely admit that we have sinned and confess our sins, He is faithful and just (true to His own natures and promises) and will forgive our sins and continuously cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”

Romans 8:1 "There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus."

Does God see us as sinless?




 
Not really true. If you seek forgiveness, God sees you as if you never sinned at all.... you are perfect.

1 John 1:9 "If we freely admit that we have sinned and confess our sins, He is faithful and just (true to His own natures and promises) and will forgive our sins and continuously cleanse us from all unrighteousness.”

Romans 8:1 "There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus."

Does God see us as sinless?





Really? So David did not suffer the consequences of his actions? Or Moses? I know I have so perhaps you should rethink your comment...
 
I have read the scriptures, and I know that if your church isn't doing what the apostles did in the book of Acts - then, your church is teaching false doctrine.

Jesus gave the "keys to Heaven" to Peter - so, if the Pope is supposedly the "embodiment of Peter" WHY doesn't he teach what Peter taught???

"Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation. Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers." - Acts 2:38-42

Uggggggggggggh
 
We are ALL born into sin, and we ALL have to be born again.

God did not make Juan Carlos "that way," and He does not "love him that way."


...but God still loves Juan Carlos, and would love for him to repent.

and, if Juan Carlos is born again, he'll still be born gay. A dunking isn't going to wash the gay away.
 
Pope struck out on this one.
Catholics should be concerned the church is starting in the wrong direction.
The Pope should of stayed clear about this due to the fact there are still situations with sexual abuse by priest popping up. Yes,it has something to do with it because if there are any um "gay" priest they may come out and we,yes we do not need this.
Someone above said about Christians using Religion as a way of attacking...wrong number. Of course there are a few bad apples but generalizing all Christians is ...wrong. I totally disagree with the Pope. This is all I have to say.(walks away)
 
Pope struck out on this one.
Catholics should be concerned the church is starting in the wrong direction.
The Pope should of stayed clear about this due to the fact there are still situations with sexual abuse by priest popping up. Yes,it has something to do with it because if there are any um "gay" priest they may come out and we,yes we do not need this.
Someone above said about Christians using Religion as a way of attacking...wrong number. Of course there are a few bad apples but generalizing all Christians is ...wrong. I totally disagree with the Pope. This is all I have to say.(walks away)

Like it or not the church is a political body all of them are. That is what religion is. And the Catholic Church spends a lot of money now they have claim on the third world and they always will so long as they're able to provide hospitals and treatments for illnesses the only reason they are able to is because Americans and westerners give the money. If they want to continue obtaining money they can't really go against the political views of the countries they get it from. So as more and more people accept same-sex marriage and same-sex couples in the western world the closer to affirming it the Catholic Church will get.
 
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