Pelosi says Trump carried out strike on Iranian commander without authorization and she wants detail

[Conservative]

Conservatives do not believe in allowing the President to unilaterally declare war against a foreign country.

Conservatives do not believe in making the President immune from criminal investigation. When was war declared? Must have missed that as you missed Obama putting the Iran General on the terrorist list

Conservatives do not believe in making the President's senior aides immune from testifying before Congress. Since there is no trial when have they been immune from testify

Conservatives do not believe in allowing the President to usurp the appropriation powers of Congress to enact their political agenda such as building a wall on the southern border. LOL, protecting this country is the role of the President and walls work, not sure why you think you speak for conservatives

Conservatives do not believe in abusing the power of eminent domain to grab the land of private landowners near the border in order to build a wall on the southern border.
Sorry but eminent domain has been on the books for decades and is within the legal right of the President to protect this country. You don't speak for Conservatives

Conservatives do not believe in trashing the individual rights of immigrants, by separating their families, for a minor crime most similar to misdemeanor trespassing. Conservatives understand the term illegal, you don't seem to

Do you know who does? Authoritarian/fascist inclined punks, thugs, and bullies who do not believe in the Rule of Law or the U.S. Constitution, and hate foreigners and hate Democrats more than they love their country.

I do understand liberal arrogance and your belief that you are right on every issue. You don't speak for Conservatives therefore I corrected most of your statement for you

 

[Conservative]

I know, your hero worship of Trump is getting in the way and blinding you of the consequences of war. Do you really believe that killing a top general isn't an act of war???? Regardless Iran has already retaliated and has promised way more. Currently hacking government sites, and has declared that taking out soleimani is an act of war, US officials in the region are on high alert and are basically getting kicked out of the area and then kidnapped and held for questioning as they try to go back home. Iran has also ramped up construction of nuclear weapons along with Kim in NK. Maybe you don't care what the enemy thinks, but that's an important consideration to make when deciding on what to do next, something your hero doesn't seem to have done. You are kidding yourself if you think Trump will face no consequences for this crappy decision and killing Iran's top general isn't an act of war. We are now in another undeclared war in the middle east and that's why Congress is concerned. They don't want to make the same mistakes as we did in Iraq.

Again another false statement that has been addressed many times all to divert from your failed logic and common sense. Killing a terrorist isn't an act of war as someone you greatly respected, Obama put him on the terrorist list

LOL, Iran has retaliated? What harm has Iran done? You focus a lot on rhetoric but not at all on results. I really don't give a damn what our enemy thinks, I support the President in being proactive in protecting Americans

I think you are the one with the problem, pure hatred for the President of the United States out of either ignorance of the role or being a paid operative

 

[NeverTrump]

Again another false statement that has been addressed many times all to divert from your failed logic and common sense. Killing a terrorist isn't an act of war as someone you greatly respected, Obama put him on the terrorist list

LOL, Iran has retaliated? What harm has Iran done? You focus a lot on rhetoric but not at all on results. I really don't give a damn what our enemy thinks, I support the President in being proactive in protecting Americans

I think you are the one with the problem, pure hatred for the President of the United States out of either ignorance of the role or being a paid operative

Go back and reread my post before you ask me questions I have already answered.

 

[Conservative]

Go back and reread my post before you ask me questions I have already answered.

You seem to have a reading comprehension problem where did I say I worshiped Trump? Even went as far to say and one more time bolded, I DON'T LIKE TRUMP HAVE NEVER LIKED TRUMP AND PROBABLY WILL NEVER LIKE TRUMP, but all that is irrelevant as working in the private sector I always respected results and worked for a lot of people that I didn't like but got the results

I will be voting for Trump in 2020 just like I did in 2016 due to the fact that I believed he would get the results we are getting today

 

[NeverTrump]

You seem to have a reading comprehension problem where did I say I worshiped Trump? Even went as far to say and one more time bolded, I DON'T LIKE TRUMP HAVE NEVER LIKED TRUMP AND PROBABLY WILL NEVER LIKE TRUMP, but all that is irrelevant as working in the private sector I always respected results and worked for a lot of people that I didn't like but got the results

Why do you have to bring up that I don't like Trump in every post? It makes it hard to have any conversation with you.

 

[Port & Starboard]

I'm sure they'll be willing to share that intel and all decision-related materials leading up to the strike with appropriate House committees. /s



Also, How long until we until find out Trump was fed intel by Putin on this directly during his Christmas phone call? Putin is in the middle of selling weapons to Iran and meddling in the affairs of Ukraine...

Pelosi says Trump carried out strike on Iranian commander without authorization and she wants details

Pelosi is a wrinkled old **** for brains.

Obama bombed a sovereign country (Libya) without consent of congress, and continued to bomb for 7 months without the authority from Congress.

 

[Conservative]

Why do you have to bring up that I don't like Trump in every post? It makes it hard to have any conversation with you.

Why do you say I worship Trump on every post?? Try taking a reading comprehension course and actually understand my comments

 

[NeverTrump]

Why do you say I worship Trump on every post?? Try taking a reading comprehension course and actually understand my comments

I don't.

 

[Fred C Dobbs II]

Why do you have to bring up that I don't like Trump in every post? It makes it hard to have any conversation with you.

It might be because you make foolish statements like this. "I know, your hero worship of Trump is getting in the way and blinding you of the consequences of war". What do you think?

 

[NeverTrump]

Pelosi is a wrinkled old **** for brains.

Obama bombed a sovereign country (Libya) without consent of congress, and continued to bomb for 7 months without the authority from Congress.

So is trump.

Yeah and you hated it.

 

[NeverTrump]

It might be because you make foolish statements like this. "I know, your hero worship of Trump is getting in the way and blinding you of the consequences of war". What do you think?

Why isn't his statement also equally foolish?

 

[Fred C Dobbs II]

Why isn't his statement also equally foolish?

Many statements have been made, millions probably, but right now we're looking at yours. It tends to stand out because of its foolishness.

 

[Port & Starboard]

So is trump.

Yeah and you hated it.

Yeah.....

And Pelosi is full of ****, just like her base.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

No, Conservatives don't hate liberals. There is a far less emotional opinion. Krauthammer put it like this.

“To understand the workings of American politics, you have to understand this fundamental law: Conservatives think liberals are stupid. Liberals think conservatives are evil.”

I applaud you for pointing to Krauthammer has an example of a model Conservative, and inadvertently helping prove my point.

Krauthammer refused to vote for Donald Trump:

"I will not vote for Hillary Clinton, but, as I’ve explained in my columns, I could never vote for Donald Trump".

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...1442a4-96f2-11e6-bc79-af1cd3d2984b_story.html

And was one of Trump's fiercest critics on the right:

Joe Scarborough: Remembering Charles Krauthammer, a man who shaped the views of a generation of conservatives

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If only Trump's thuggish and fascist/authoritarian inclined supporters could follow Krauthammer's example.

 

[NeverTrump]

Many statements have been made, millions probably, but right now we're looking at yours. It tends to stand out because of its foolishness.

I don't highlight underline and bold my statements highlighting how much he loves Trump, so why is mine more foolish than his?

You seem to have a reading comprehension problem where did I say I worshiped Trump? Even went as far to say and one more time bolded, I DON'T LIKE TRUMP HAVE NEVER LIKED TRUMP AND PROBABLY WILL NEVER LIKE TRUMP, but all that is irrelevant as working in the private sector I always respected results and worked for a lot of people that I didn't like but got the results

I will be voting for Trump in 2020 just like I did in 2016 due to the fact that I believed he would get the results we are getting today

 

[Conservative]

I don't.

Feelings is all that matters to you as there is no place for actual results in your world. How has Trump hurt you and your family to warrant the 24/7 attacks, no speculation just plain verifiable facts?? You have NOTHING but feelings and hatred probably to divert from your own failures or are you being paid?

 

[Conservative]

I don't highlight underline and bold my statements highlighting how much he loves Trump, so why is mine more foolish than his?

Thought maybe screaming would get through to you because actual normal discussion or statements don't

 

[NeverTrump]

Feelings is all that matters to you as there is no place for actual results in your world. How has Trump hurt you and your family to warrant the 24/7 attacks, no speculation just plain verifiable facts?? You have NOTHING but feelings and hatred probably to divert from your own failures or are you being paid?

We have had this conversation before, so IDK why you still keep asking it.

 

[Conservative]

We have had this conversation before, so IDK why you still keep asking it.

I ask it because you never answer the question? Why do you hate Trump and buy rhetoric ignoring the actual results? Post where killing a terrorist is an act of war?

 

[Fred C Dobbs II]

I applaud you for pointing to Krauthammer has an example of a model Conservative, and inadvertently helping prove my point.
Krauthammer refused to vote for Donald Trump:
"I will not vote for Hillary Clinton, but, as I’ve explained in my columns, I could never vote for Donald Trump".

Yes, I'm aware of Krauthammer's decision and don't have an argument with it. He didn't like Trump or Hillary and voted for neither, as did millions of others. But what has the one got to do with the other or with Liberals being stupid?

And was one of Trump's fiercest critics on the right:

Right. He was always surprised at Trump's continued successes.

If only Trump's thuggish and fascist/authoritarian inclined supporters could follow Krauthammer's example.

Now you've shifted away from Krauthammer and re-entered your own fantasy world of fascism/racism/nazisim/ and whatever other ism you can project. How very left of you, and how very tiresome leftist slogans can be.

 

[W_Heisenberg]

When was war declared? Must have missed that as you missed Obama putting the Iran General on the terrorist list

The decision to assassinate a high ranking official of a foreign country, however evil this individual might be, is tantamount to a declaration of war on Iran, the country, and is of such great consequence it should at the very least require congressional authorization.

This isn't like killing Osama bin Laden who was not a member of a foreign country. Osama bin Laden was a "state-less" actor.

Since there is no trial when have they been immune from testify

They aren't immune. It's the argument that Trump has been making, however:

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthe...subpo/92d4672db63b5cac498d/optimized/full.pdf

Read the first 3 to 4 pages of the above document.

LOL, protecting this country is the role of the President and walls work, not sure why you think you speak for conservatives

It's because I've set aside a little bit of my time to read the Constitution, a document you, and your hero, Trump, trash on a daily basis.

Guide to the Constitution

"No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time."

ARTICLE I, SECTION 9, CLAUSE 7

Heritage Foundation's commentary:

"The Appropriations Clause is the cornerstone of Congress's "power of the purse." It assigns to Congress the role of final arbiter of the use of public funds. The source of Congress's power to spend derives from Article I, Section 8, Clause 1. The Appropriations Clause provides Congress with a mechanism to control or to limit spending by the federal government. The Framers chose the particular language of limitation, not authorization, for the first part of the clause and placed it in Section 9 of Article I, along with other restrictions on governmental actions to limit, most notably, executive action."

So-called "conservatives" who support Trump are fake conservatives.

 

[Doc91478]

Your opinion is worth less than my cat's.

 

[tres borrachos]

Memes are so cool! Are you between math and Home Economics classes?

 

[Conservative]

The decision to assassinate a high ranking official of a foreign country, however evil this individual might be, is tantamount to a declaration of war on Iran, the country, and is of such great consequence it should at the very least require congressional authorization.

This isn't like killing Osama bin Laden who was not a member of a foreign country. Osama bin Laden was a "state-less" actor.



They aren't immune. It's the argument that Trump has been making, however:

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthe...subpo/92d4672db63b5cac498d/optimized/full.pdf

Read the first 3 to 4 pages of the above document.



It's because I've set aside a little bit of my time to read the Constitution, a document you, and your hero, Trump, trash on a daily basis.

Guide to the Constitution

"No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time."

ARTICLE I, SECTION 9, CLAUSE 7

Heritage Foundation's commentary:

"The Appropriations Clause is the cornerstone of Congress's "power of the purse." It assigns to Congress the role of final arbiter of the use of public funds. The source of Congress's power to spend derives from Article I, Section 8, Clause 1. The Appropriations Clause provides Congress with a mechanism to control or to limit spending by the federal government. The Framers chose the particular language of limitation, not authorization, for the first part of the clause and placed it in Section 9 of Article I, along with other restrictions on governmental actions to limit, most notably, executive action."

So-called "conservatives" who support Trump are fake conservatives.

Trump took out a terrorist leader who was responsible for hundreds of American lives. You don't like it, you will have a chance to get rid of him in November 2020. Rather frustrating that so many people don't understand the role of the President who doesn't work for Pelosi, he works for the American people and keeping us safe is his number one responsibility which he is doing.

Yes, they are immune until a Court tells differently and they are under no obligation to participate in the Pelosi witch hunt but will in a trial. Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler had to rush impeachment articles to the Senate in a hurry as of December 18, where are those charges now and where is the sense of urgency that was claimed by those radical democrats?

I don't think you have any credibility in defining what a conservative is and generally have very little over all

 

[mrdeltoid]

No I not have an opinion, we will all have to wait and see how Iran reacts. My interest is also personal. I am a defense contractor writing this from the KSA. I am in the hornets nest, and we are all holding our breath.

Dang man! Keep your head down over there! There's a lot of pressure on this new guy to retaliate. Good luck and safe travels my friend.