Pelosi says Trump carried out strike on Iranian commander without authorization and she wants detail

[Common Sense 1]

To the Speaker of the House! Nancy Patricia Pelosi


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
1h1 hour ago

These Media Posts will serve as notification to the United States Congress that should Iran strike any U.S. person or target, the United States will quickly & fully strike back, & perhaps in a disproportionate manner. Such legal notice is not required, but is given nevertheless!

:thumbs::2usflag:

 

[trouble13]

You would think she'd get her heels on and run those articles of impeachment over to the Senate before the sun went down that very day. Either Pelosi is lying about Trump being a threat to America, or she's just playing politics.

Wouldnt it be nice if a reporter asked her that question?

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[Michael Cole]

It is irrelevant, just another anti Trump piece. Learned a long time ago, you can complain, whine and lose credibility vs. actually offering something as an alternative. Neither you or anyone else has offered a viable alternative to Trump. Trump did his job under the Constitution as did Obama. None of that changes the results both generated outside of the Bin Laden and the Iran General. Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism and the murder of Americans. Why that doesn't bother you is quite telling

There you go again. What about Trump denying funding for research on the microscopic pladula? You think terrorists will kill you? You've never seen a pladula have you? Buy yourself a microscope and get educated.

 

[Michael Cole]

To the Speaker of the House! Nancy Patricia Pelosi


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
1h1 hour ago

These Media Posts will serve as notification to the United States Congress that should Iran strike any U.S. person or target, the United States will quickly & fully strike back, & perhaps in a disproportionate manner. Such legal notice is not required, but is given nevertheless!

:thumbs::2usflag:

Do you accept that as a middle east strategy? I surely don't

 

[Michael Cole]

I see someone blinded by either the liberal ideology or pure ignorance which is it? I supported Obama with regard to Bin Laden just like I supported Trump in the removal of the general. Seems you have a reading comprehension problem.

You keep running from reality, think the American people care more about Ukraine and the killing of the Iran General than they do about the economy and the ability to put food on the table, a roof over their head, and clothes on their backs? your priorities are all screwed up. You sat out 2012? That doesn't give you the right to complain about the choices as it is easier to fight from within than from the outside like you are doing

What was it that gave me away? My vote for McCain? Is that what blew my cover regarding my liberal ideology? I voted for Bush, too. Three times. Those damn liberal Bush's

 

[Conservative]

There you go again. What about Trump denying funding for research on the microscopic pladula? You think terrorists will kill you? You've never seen a pladula have you? Buy yourself a microscope and get educated.

Still no answer, who is the alternative to Trump and why?

 

[Conservative]

What was it that gave me away? My vote for McCain? Is that what blew my cover regarding my liberal ideology? I voted for Bush, too. Three times. Those damn liberal Bush's

There is no valid reason to vote for a Democrat and you have offered no alternative. This and other anti Trump threads with the same people spouting the same anti Trump rhetoric to divert from the fact that there is no alternative to Trump that will keep the basic economic results being generated moving in the right direction. None of the Democrats running for office have any private sector economic and that is the foundation upon which this country was built. I will stick with Trump

 

[bongsaway]

Perhaps he just did end the possibility of a war, as intelligence claims.

Perhaps, nah.

 

[sjmay]

In his case I would say yes, so it should be really easy to show us the proof.

If I had robbed a bank ten years ago and started speaking to a friend about robbing another bank and that friend went to the police with the information, what would happen do you suppose?

Should be extremely easy for you to do a google search and find it, right?

 

[Mithros]

Still no answer, who is the alternative to Trump and why?

Before this attack you had a point. For all of his faults Trump generally made good use of the military and didn’t push us into situations we can’t win at the cost of trillions of dollars aNd hundreds of thousands of lives; aka Bush.

But not now. Now the same people are trotting out the same BS with the same ignorance and self assurance. This saves us from an imminent attack, but we can’t show the intelligence. Also, we now have to stop fighting isis because there is now an imminent attack. This is totally justified, but the reason is secret. This is going to make America safer but the reason why keeps changing.

And the worst part is the people who have no skin in the game, who live in places that wouldn’t be touched in a nuclear war, who have never seen combat or suffering, who have no family in harms way. You’re oh so happy to blow up people on the other side of the world safe and sound in your house living off of government subsidies that everyone else pays for.

 

[bongsaway]

Should be extremely easy for you to do a google search and find it, right?

I could find out what would happen if I did a google search?

 

[Torus34]

Totally agree, and it's not just military force. Trump is certainly an anomaly, but truth be told, with each succeeding president, the idea that Article II means the Executive can do "whatever he wants" has been strengthened, not reigned in by Congress

Hi! Thank you for taking time to respond. Looking a bit deeper, Congress has followed this path for their own self-serving reasons. It intensifies the party vs. party struggle now slowly leading us toward an uncertain future.

Happy New Year.

 

[Conservative]

Before this attack you had a point. For all of his faults Trump generally made good use of the military and didn’t push us into situations we can’t win at the cost of trillions of dollars aNd hundreds of thousands of lives; aka Bush.

But not now. Now the same people are trotting out the same BS with the same ignorance and self assurance. This saves us from an imminent attack, but we can’t show the intelligence. Also, we now have to stop fighting isis because there is now an imminent attack. This is totally justified, but the reason is secret. This is going to make America safer but the reason why keeps changing.

And the worst part is the people who have no skin in the game, who live in places that wouldn’t be touched in a nuclear war, who have never seen combat or suffering, who have no family in harms way. You’re oh so happy to blow up people on the other side of the world safe and sound in your house living off of government subsidies that everyone else pays for.

Whether or not it makes us safer will be determined in time not in a debate forum where there are those who bash Trump 24/7. A nuclear war touches ALL Americans so not sure where you get your information. Don't you realize that Russia realizes we can destroy them and they us? Iran will be destroyed if they attack us directly? This incident sent the right message, whether or not it works only time will tell. Those attacking Trump are doing so but never offering an alternative. What is that alternative and what should have been done about the attack on our Embassy and the killing of Americans?

I assure you that Houston will be in direct fire of any nuclear war because of our oil refineries and major port operations. I live 30 miles from Houston so I will be affected and am willing to give Trump the benefit of doubt

 

[sjmay]

I could find out what would happen if I did a google search?

You could find the Iranian General's past actions that led to American deaths, which is what you asked for originally, or did you forget?

 

[bongsaway]

You could find the Iranian General's past actions that led to American deaths, which is what you asked for originally, or did you forget?

I thought I asked about robbing a bank?

 

[Fred C Dobbs II]

?! Are you talking a war with Iran? No, this absolutely did nothing to prevent a war with Iran, because a war with Iran was never on the table. This is the same sort of nonsense heard when Trump touted the notion that he saved us from his imagined nuclear war with North Korea.

There will never be a war as there was in WWI and II but there will be attacks on targeted areas, military and nonMilitary, such as 9/1I, the USS Cole, Beirut, and hundreds of others. Smaller attacks designed to destroy western confidence, create fear, and give more credibility to these fanatical groups than they deserve. Even now many Americans, and others, cower at how Iran will respond while Trump/Pompeo rightly understand that it's the Iranian leadership who should be nervous.
In fact the ideological war, though not mentioned much in this instance, is still with radical Islam, and has been since the collapse of the USSR.

- It is not in Iran's best interests to go to war with America. It has to deal with the economic sanctions as best it can, which means a partnership with Russia, Syria, Turkey, and China. But a war with America would be devastating upon its infrastructure and would pause it's geoeconomic strategy in the region, which is the protection of the Shia under repressive Sunni governments.

I think you're still talking of conventional waar, which will not happen. It is a matter of will and 'death by a thousand cuts'. We can easily see this process has served the Iranian regime well and the fear radical Islam has created in the West.

- It is not in America's best interests to go to war with Iran. This war would be devastating because Iranians are as fiercely nationalistic as Americans. Our military would be fighting the entire population, who would receive material support from Russia and China. There would be no victory in the end, just more dead Americans and the complete confusion on how to get out of it without "losing."

You're certainly not talking of conventional warfare here. If Trump was to get serious it would be Shock and Awe times 20 and Iran could do nothing. They can only hope Trump would do an Obama, and that's unlikely..

- It is not in Israel's best interests to go to war with Iran. Iran would release the hounds upon Israel. Hezbollah and others would go all out and see this as a last best effort to destroy it, leaving our Sunni allies hand tied as to how to deal with it in regards to satisfying their own Israeli-hating populations.

As with Iraq, Israel would stay on the sidelines though their enemies would want to include Israel. Saddam certainly wanted that.

It is not in the Sunni governments best interests to go to war with Iran. Along the way, the Shia populations elsewhere in the region would disrupt those Sunni governments, increasing the mood for civil war.

There's always a war of some sort going on in the ME but it's difficult to keep it there.

You should be careful about what our "Intelligence" has to say about anything. Trump was right when he scoffed at it, but wrong by doing so in the company of a dictator, and about that subject.

You're right again, but it's probably better than Iranian intelligence.

 

[Mithros]

Whether or not it makes us safer will be determined in time not in a debate forum where there are those who bash Trump 24/7. A nuclear war touches ALL Americans so not sure where you get your information. Don't you realize that Russia realizes we can destroy them and they us? Iran will be destroyed if they attack us directly? This incident sent the right message, whether or not it works only time will tell. Those attacking Trump are doing so but never offering an alternative. What is that alternative and what should have been done about the attack on our Embassy and the killing of Americans?

I assure you that Houston will be in direct fire of any nuclear war because of our oil refineries and major port operations. I live 30 miles from Houston so I will be affected and am willing to give Trump the benefit of doubt

This is a bit of a tangent, but 30 miles away is more than far enough away. Assuming that you were indoors and not looking directly at the blast you’d be unlikely to suffer any health issues. The real problem would be what happens with the loss of infrastructure etc..

But the point of that is that if Iran attacks the US through some terrorist attack it won’t affect you. Even if they cart a nuclear weapon to Houston, a highly unlikely target.. your daily life won’t be much affected. The lives you’re wagering aren’t your own.

Put yourself in an Iranian leaders shoes for a minute. If they fight the us in a conventional war they’ll be wiped out. No one plays a game when they can’t win, they’ll change the rules and play another. But if they do nothing then their people will rise up against them. They have to attack the us... publicly and symbolically. Trump had already consigned those Americans to their deaths.. and then what? Will trump back down and look weak?

 

[jet57]

I'm sure they'll be willing to share that intel and all decision-related materials leading up to the strike with appropriate House committees. /s



Also, How long until we until find out Trump was fed intel by Putin on this directly during his Christmas phone call? Putin is in the middle of selling weapons to Iran and meddling in the affairs of Ukraine...

Pelosi says Trump carried out strike on Iranian commander without authorization and she wants details

If Putin and Iran are working as an allied arrangement, then why would Putin tell Trump where a high level Iranian was?

 

[Conservative]

This is a bit of a tangent, but 30 miles away is more than far enough away. Assuming that you were indoors and not looking directly at the blast you’d be unlikely to suffer any health issues. The real problem would be what happens with the loss of infrastructure etc..

But the point of that is that if Iran attacks the US through some terrorist attack it won’t affect you. Even if they cart a nuclear weapon to Houston, a highly unlikely target.. your daily life won’t be much affected. The lives you’re wagering aren’t your own.

Put yourself in an Iranian leaders shoes for a minute. If they fight the us in a conventional war they’ll be wiped out. No one plays a game when they can’t win, they’ll change the rules and play another. But if they do nothing then their people will rise up against them. They have to attack the us... publicly and symbolically. Trump had already consigned those Americans to their deaths.. and then what? Will trump back down and look weak?

You think there will be a conventional war with Iran? Why the gloom and doom? You think that the Iran leadership doesn't value their own life? You assume that the Iranian people like their leadership, where did you get that information? Your gloom and doom predictions are what the left always does. when wrong will you admit it?

 

[Mithros]

You think there will be a conventional war with Iran? Why the gloom and doom? You think that the Iran leadership doesn't value their own life? You assume that the Iranian people like their leadership, where did you get that information? Your gloom and doom predictions are what the left always does. when wrong will you admit it?

I don’t think there will be a conventional war with Iran because they know they can’t possibly win one. No one plays a game they can’t win.

When I’m wrong? Lol. In the minutes after the strike I said 3 things are going to happen. Iran will attack militarily.. they announced they would. Iraq would kick out us troops, they’ve announced that as well. And Iran would make a full scale push to acquire nuclear weapons.. that’s happening now as well.

I’m already proven to be correct. The only question that remains is what will Trump do after Iran retaliates. Will Trump back down and save lives or get us into another middle eastern disaster.. and that is where you come in. Trump cares nothing for the 55% of the county who think he’s a disaster. He doesn’t care about you either.. but he does care if you stop supporting him, and sadly that is the only way we don’t end up wasting American lives and treasure.

 

[Doc91478]

As was easily predicted:

Attacking Iran in Iraq without Iraq’s permission forces Iraq to kick out US forces opening up Iraq to more Iranian and this Russian influence. Look at a map of the Middle East. Russia has become the dominant foreign power.

Iran must now quickly build nuclear weapons as a deterrent to US aggression. That will add yet another nuclear power allied with Russia against the US.

Finally, since WWII the US has led the world order from a position of moral superiority. Russia has operated from brutal practicality. Now Russia can say that the US is just the same but with bigger bombs. Ergo why should any other nation support the US when the US cannot be trusted and is only out for it’s selfish interest.

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Did you believe and say the same when Obama tucked tail and retreated from Iraq? Were you happy then? Surely when Obama returned to Iraq after the rise of ISIS you questioned his decision. Now you question the decisions of Trump to retaliate against Iranian terrorism by taking out Soleimani and poke Iran's Ayatollah in the eye.
Personally the decisions of this or any administration would not be my choice and are well above our pay grades.
So were you happy with the decision that Obama made to assassinate Ghadaffy, train ISIS and ship arms to start the war in Syria while sacrificing ambassador Stevens and three other Americans?
Strangely the above has led up o this point, yet you would rather castigate Trump and not look back at the reasons why we are here.

 

[Conservative]

I don’t think there will be a conventional war with Iran because they know they can’t possibly win one. No one plays a game they can’t win.

When I’m wrong? Lol. In the minutes after the strike I said 3 things are going to happen. Iran will attack militarily.. they announced they would. Iraq would kick out us troops, they’ve announced that as well. And Iran would make a full scale push to acquire nuclear weapons.. that’s happening now as well.

I’m already proven to be correct. The only question that remains is what will Trump do after Iran retaliates. Will Trump back down and save lives or get us into another middle eastern disaster.. and that is where you come in. Trump cares nothing for the 55% of the county who think he’s a disaster. He doesn’t care about you either.. but he does care if you stop supporting him, and sadly that is the only way we don’t end up wasting American lives and treasure.

So when did Iran did Iran attack militarily, must have not made the news?

When did Iraq kick out the American Troops, the Parliament vote was NON BINDING

When did Iran ever stop their development of nuclear weapons

Looks to me like you are zero for three

I don't have to have a President who you believe doesn't care for me? The results tell a different story, why is it people like you never post official results only personal opinions? The results generated are good enough for me and most Americans, like 54%

 

[Michael Cole]

So when did Iran did Iran attack militarily, must have not made the news?

When did Iraq kick out the American Troops, the Parliament vote was NON BINDING

When did Iran ever stop their development of nuclear weapons

Looks to me like you are zero for three

I don't have to have a President who you believe doesn't care for me? The results tell a different story, why is it people like you never post official results only personal opinions? The results generated are good enough for me and most Americans, like 54%

Back to the 54%. That has to be the lamest excuse I've ever seen for a vote, especially coming from someone who says he doesn't like Trump. When it's said that people vote their wallets, when they look in their wallet, they're looking for cash, not opinion polls. Lame.

 

[Conservative]

Back to the 54%. That has to be the lamest excuse I've ever seen for a vote, especially coming from someone who says he doesn't like Trump. When it's said that people vote their wallets, when they look in their wallet, they're looking for cash, not opinion polls. Lame.

The word like seems to mean a lot to you, why is it important to like a President or any political leader as none of them especially this thread has any affect on you? Liking the President is irrelevant, liking his results are what impacts the American people and the American people are benefiting from the Trump economy. You buy rhetoric, I buy results. Why is it you believe what you are told and ignore the official results being generated?

I can see why you have a problem with your company and can see if you are an employee like you post here as a manager you wouldn't survive me. I have no problem and had no problem with dissent from my employees but with dissent there had to be a solution or alternative. Whining never was accepted. You don't like the way you are treated then either offer an alternative or find a new job. You have 14 years of experience thus should be marketable

 

[Hamish Howl]

Turns out the reason the Iraqi government is so pissed is that dude was invited in to give a response to a Saudi offer to deescalate.

This was basically a mob hit, straight out of The Sopranos.