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Ok, I acknowledge I have "white privilege". Now what?

Jesse Booth said:
Do you have evidence that real estate companies deliberately screen their minority applicants far more thoroughly than their white applicants, specifically to check for crimes they didn't admit to?
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Sure, there was never red lining in america, go with that.
 
Fenton Lum said:
A small group of extremists? The law murdering unarmed black folk in the streets with impunity? Our for profit prison system? Our societal sacrifice zones which also include "Indian" reservations and Appalachia? Our exclusionary health"care" system? Hell, even the ability of the citizenry to protest in the streets? Our deomonization of the poor?

No, this is systemic, institutional, and a founding principle of american society; woven into the fabric of who we are as a people. You'll note where we go war on folk post WWII.
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Do you feign the same rage when black folks kill other black folks in the streets? You DO know that is a much bigger threat to black folks than the cops, right? I think if Black Lives Really mattered, to other black folks, they would go for the low hanging fruit and clean up the problem of blacks killing other blacks. But that would require accepting responsibility. If the black communities suffering the domestic terrorism from their own youth REALLY wanted to put a dent in the number of killings upon blacks, they would work WITH cops instead of against them.

Until that happens, don't expect much sympathy from me.
 
Jesse Booth said:
You may want to check the definition of redlining again, because it has nothing to do with job applications, or with lying about past felonies.
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Let's review context shall we:

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Do you have evidence that real estate companies deliberately screen their minority applicants far more thoroughly than their white applicants, specifically to check for crimes they didn't admit to?

Sure, there was never red lining in america, go with that.
 
AGENT J said:
I understand what you are saying but of course it can, this thread is proof. The majority here understand and recognize white privileged. They dont deny it or lie about it.
Now the conversation isnt always easy because that small group or people try to pollute the conversation but there will always be small groups of extremists.
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Fenton Lum said:
A small group of extremists? The law murdering unarmed black folk in the streets with impunity? Our for profit prison system? Our societal sacrifice zones which also include "Indian" reservations and Appalachia? Our exclusionary health"care" system? Hell, even the ability of the citizenry to protest in the streets? Our deomonization of the poor?

No, this is systemic, institutional, and a founding principle of american society; woven into the fabric of who we are as a people. You'll note where we go war on folk post WWII.
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Ya, I mean, I think "small group of extremists" is a little generous...not that I have a huge issue with you using it, not at all, this isn't the start of a rant, but I think it's important to acknowledge a couple of things. First of all, you have to consider the power being wielded by some of these people. While some attention seeking d-bag on an Internet forum might not change anyone's day, a cop with that attitude can be deadly. Yes, I honestly believe (maybe naively) that the majority of cops are good...but the amount of impact that the bad cops have makes them a really big problem.

Secondly, you cannot omit the power of doing nothing. Going back to the cop example, it's rarely just a lone wolf cop acting on his / her own. While they might be the ones that commit the crime, you always see the other cops around them doing nothing... Furthermore, I doubt that a bad cop becomes a bad cop overnight and just decides to shoot a black person. If there were indicators before, but their fellow officers do nothing about it, that's a problem. When we know there's a problem and do nothing about it, especially when we are benefiting from the status quo, then we are part of the problem.
 
Fenton Lum said:
Let's review context shall we:

Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Booth View Post
Do you have evidence that real estate companies deliberately screen their minority applicants far more thoroughly than their white applicants, specifically to check for crimes they didn't admit to?

Sure, there was never red lining in america, go with that.
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Redlining is when a business either avoids ethnic neighborhoods, or goes there specifically to overcharge for goods nobody else is offering in the area. It has literally nothing to do with job applications, and is a red herring.
 
Fenton Lum said:
A small group of extremists? The law murdering unarmed black folk in the streets with impunity? Our for profit prison system? Our societal sacrifice zones which also include "Indian" reservations and Appalachia? Our exclusionary health"care" system? Hell, even the ability of the citizenry to protest in the streets? Our deomonization of the poor?

No, this is systemic, institutional, and a founding principle of american society; woven into the fabric of who we are as a people. You'll note where we go war on folk post WWII.
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WTH? im simply talking about the minority group that deny white privileged exists . . .no need to jump off the deep end . . not sure how you got to where you did . . .DOes that stuff exist? yes but it was not in any way shape or form what i was talking about . . pump your brakes. lol ;)
 
OlNate said:
Ya, I mean, I think "small group of extremists" is a little generous...not that I have a huge issue with you using it, not at all, this isn't the start of a rant, but I think it's important to acknowledge a couple of things. First of all, you have to consider the power being wielded by some of these people. While some attention seeking d-bag on an Internet forum might not change anyone's day, a cop with that attitude can be deadly. Yes, I honestly believe (maybe naively) that the majority of cops are good...but the amount of impact that the bad cops have makes them a really big problem.

Secondly, you cannot omit the power of doing nothing. Going back to the cop example, it's rarely just a lone wolf cop acting on his / her own. While they might be the ones that commit the crime, you always see the other cops around them doing nothing... Furthermore, I doubt that a bad cop becomes a bad cop overnight and just decides to shoot a black person. If there were indicators before, but their fellow officers do nothing about it, that's a problem. When we know there's a problem and do nothing about it, especially when we are benefiting from the status quo, then we are part of the problem.
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see post 257 . . he simply got his wires crossed about what i was referring too
 
AGENT J said:
see post 257 . . he simply got his wires crossed about what i was referring too
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No, I know, it's all good...saw it, tried to put a slightly simmered down spin on it, I think you guys agree. :)
 
Captain America said:
Do you feign the same rage when black folks kill other black folks in the streets? You DO know that is a much bigger threat to black folks than the cops, right? I think if Black Lives Really mattered, to other black folks, they would go for the low hanging fruit and clean up the problem of blacks killing other blacks. But that would require accepting responsibility. If the black communities suffering the domestic terrorism from their own youth REALLY wanted to put a dent in the number of killings upon blacks, they would work WITH cops instead of against them.

Until that happens, don't expect much sympathy from me.
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Just a tad difficult to work with a power structure that murders and mass incarcerates you, hope you learn this yourself at some point. I understand you are part of the problem, and I learned long ago that expecting empathy from the likes of you is just silly. As for sympathy, my understanding is that it can be located in the dictionary somewhere in between **** and syphilis.

Bbbbbbbbbbut Chicago!!!!
 
Jesse Booth said:
Redlining is when a business either avoids ethnic neighborhoods, or goes there specifically to overcharge for goods nobody else is offering in the area. It has literally nothing to do with job applications, and is a red herring.
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Sure, they would utterly compartmentalize their racism.
 
Fenton Lum said:
An industry who red lines would never be biased in its hiring, we got your reach.
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LMAO what? Whats that have to do with your mistake?
 
AGENT J said:
WTH? im simply talking about the minority group that deny white privileged exists . . .no need to jump off the deep end . . not sure how you got to where you did . . .DOes that stuff exist? yes but it was not in any way shape or form what i was talking about . . pump your brakes. lol ;)
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It is no minority, it is societal and insitutional, and that is all.
 
Fenton Lum said:
It is no minority, it is societal and insitutional, and that is all.
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What i was actually talking about is factually a minority in this thread. Your mistake, that is all! LMAO
 
Captain America said:
Do you feign the same rage when black folks kill other black folks in the streets? You DO know that is a much bigger threat to black folks than the cops, right? I think if Black Lives Really mattered, to other black folks, they would go for the low hanging fruit and clean up the problem of blacks killing other blacks. But that would require accepting responsibility. If the black communities suffering the domestic terrorism from their own youth REALLY wanted to put a dent in the number of killings upon blacks, they would work WITH cops instead of against them.

Until that happens, don't expect much sympathy from me.
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wait you forget cultural attitude and the break down of the family unit has 0 to do with it.
70% or so of black kids live in single parent homes.
 
Fenton Lum said:
Yaaaaaaaawn, why don't we just say you win, k? That getcha where ya need to go?
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Well this is getting weirder and weirder?

Win what? LMAO

You posted a mistake and now your posts seem to be having a melt down and getting worse? DO you even realize the mistake you clearly and factually made?
 
AGENT J said:
Well this is getting weirder and weirder?

Win what? LMAO

You posted a mistake and now your posts seem to be having a melt down and getting worse? DO you even realize the mistake you clearly and factually made?
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[Insert jr high acronym here]
 
jdog21 said:
The government pushes the race divide and will continue so cause its a control mechanism, to control the largest and poorest part of our society to help protect themselves and the rich from public ridicule and the poor uprising.
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This is why earlier I said "if" Americans are serious about uniting the country under one nationality....

Which of course the US Government nor the Two-Party dictatorships are.

Even among Black-Americans the US intelligence services are ramped up at this very moment using COINTELPRO methodology of inciting divisions among them. An easy example is when they groom online or offline an atheist Black-American leftist to vehemently oppose the Nation of Islam and especially members of the Black Church (Protestant). If we can "just all get along" then what is the urgency to divide through the same level of hate the KKK has for x groups? Because the US Government does not want everyone to get along like a passing Orthodox Jew and Catholic waving good morning to each other. Both disagree (on some fundamental things) but they don't hate each other and demand the other convert to their beliefs. The US Government wants divisions and rival hating groups. Just as the literary character Satan does. That is to say they want a house divided, except for when they make a war cry for war.

But the Government does it with the race relations between blacks and whites too. Or they will find a new cause to push which they know will cause divisions among Americans. For example, the LGBTQ will eventually have to be extended to include a another letter. If you think I'm an idiot then just wait and watch. Give it a few years.




I was raised in the Milwaukee neighborhood that went up in flames in a few locations. I would have to frequently chuckle when the American mainstream news reported it as "a poor neighborhood." Admittedly, a lot more impoverished Black-Americans have moved in over the years. It was a predominately middle-class Black-American neighborhood. And no, I am not trying to "trick" people. The industrial Midwestern cities like Detroit, Milwaukee, and Chicago differed from the Southern cities. One of those ways was the black middle-class. In the South (which I saw with my own eyes) their black middle-class neighborhoods differed little or not at all from white ones. Quiet, nice, safe... damn near Leave it to Beaver. In the Midwestern cities I mentioned many of their black middle-class (mainly factory workers, truck drivers, high school teachers, cops etc.) neighborhoods never escaped the violence and a lot of the social ills of the black poor neighborhoods in those same cities.

(Okay, the actual whole of the Milwaukee Sherman Park neighborhood is sprawling and with about an estimated 30,000 residents in that neighborhood. However, that neighborhood is somewhat sectionally divided if I can put it that way. Orthodox Jews for example live heavily located around the St. Joseph Hospital area. The section of Sherman Park south of Sherman Blvd. that went up in flames is almost entirely black, and can be pretty damned rough and wild at times, it can be noisy with lots of car and foot traffic like a Brooklyn, New York.)

The story of that neighborhood day when two Black-American men's lives converged and one ended up dead, with a mini-riot sparked later, is not a story (particularly from a humanistic novelist, or a theological, or a moral philosophical position) that easily fits into the popular narrative of the Democratic Party or Republican Party. It is a more complex story. And in my opinion goes back, in part (not whole) to some Southern slave plantations. Part of it involves a contemporary element of sin. Shakespeare would have a great time with a story like this. He knew the human experience better than most modern liberals and conservatives.

The housing along Sherman Blvd is near luxurious. In brick-and-mortar architecture that is. If that is "poverty" in modern day America then nearly every middle-class person on planet earth, including rich Japanese, would want to move there to live like a king or queen.



The night of the riots the black officer was sitting in a bar drinking, watching the riots unfold. That night he took a young black man he met at the bar to the secret police safe house the department put him in while the chaos was going on. He allegedly drugged the man and then butt raped him.

It's a Shakespearean story, not a liberal or conservative story about the ease of putting something into a white privilege box. Nor is it a Southern black middle-class story. But it is a Milwaukee story.
 
ludin said:
wait you forget cultural attitude and the break down of the family unit has 0 to do with it.
70% or so of black kids live in single parent homes.
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Whats that have to do with the reality that white privileged still exists? :)
Seem you like to keep post strawman that will never be taken seriously on the actual topic. LOL

BTW we are still waiting for you to post those "facts" you claimed you have that prove WP doesn't exist . . where are they? Let us know, thanks!
 
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