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Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump[W:895]

Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

The part of your comment that I highlighted indicates that you really have no idea what's going on here.

You see, the EC documents Nunes finally got and now talks about have nothing to do with Page. Nothing at all. The EC documents is the raw intelligence that the CIA gave to the FBI in July 2016...which started the whole FBI counterintelligence investigation into Trump and his associates. This was months before the FBI went through their FISA shenanigans to get a wiretap warrant against Page.

So, first of all, why does any of that make any kind of difference? The point is that Bartiromo, and you by starting this thread, have spun Nunes' claims--and rather obviously so. That's the case regardless of which investigation is under discussion.

Second of all, are you saying that the Carter Page FISA warrant is not part of the counterintelligence investigation by the FBI? Seems pretty obvious that it is. So unless that's what you're saying, it's difficult to see your point. My point is that Nunes' memo of February 2018 alleges that the FISA warrant was made on grounds of the Steele Dossier. If he (and you) are now claiming there was something further, something that goes back from before the Dossier, that memo, which had achieved the status of political canon (and cannon) in Trumpworld, is misleading--as Nunes' own words and behavior now show.

Dismiss that all you want; it's obviously correct.

Other parts of your post indicate you really didn't comprehend much of anything else in that interview. Because of this, I judge your post to be nothing more than useless nonsense.

Moving on...

Other parts you don't address. Your post is an obvious attempt at further spin. Anyone not already in the grip of some twisted ideology who watches the video will see what I'm talking about.
 
Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

Wow you are a comedy genius, you post a two month old right wing conspiracy blog as a credible source.

Even if you wet dream were to cum true Flynn has already given Mueller all the testimony he needed under oath, and the investigation has moved forward with that information.

You also forget that Flynn offered from the beginning to make a deal he was a voluntary witness, why would he even consider given up his deal?

You don't a ****ing clue what Flynn told Mueller. Don't forget that Mueller has admitted that many of the news reports so far are wrong.
 
Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

This morning, Rep. Nunes was interviewed by Maria Bartiromo of Fox News. He made a statement about what was found in the electronic communications document he was finally able to get from the FBI that is simply stunning.

Listen for yourself:

In before the ad homin...Dangit!
 
Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

You don't a ****ing clue what Flynn told Mueller. Don't forget that Mueller has admitted that many of the news reports so far are wrong.

He wouldn't have a deal if he didn't have something to offer, or was guilty of a crime for that matter.

Remember his lawyer announced to the world that he had a story to tell and was willing to tell it for a plea bargain.

Mueller took months to take him up on his offer as his investigation was already moving along smoothly and he didn't need him. But when he indicted Flynn he must have told Mueller something pretty juicy for Mueller to change his mind and make a deal.
 
Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

As usual, the partisan Leftists start slinging mud.

That's not the correct application of the phrase. Did or did he not claim he was a "stable genius"?
 
Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

Geez, looks like some Trumplings woke up on the wrong side of the bed today lol!

Just another day in the life of supporting the Orange One.

May your day be scandal free! :)
 
Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

"as not an official product of the U.S. intelligence community. Brennan was NOT using official partnerships with intelligence agencies of our Five-Eyes partner nations;"

Official intelligence is an official product of the US intelligence community or from our 5 Eyes partner nations.

There. Your question is answered.

What is an official product?

You cannot define a term using the words of the term. That is merely repeating yourself

Cmon MC. Show me that you can use your words and tell me what official intelligence is and how it differs from unofficial intelligence
 
Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

So, first of all, why does any of that make any kind of difference? The point is that Bartiromo, and you by starting this thread, have spun Nunes' claims--and rather obviously so. That's the case regardless of which investigation is under discussion.

I've spun nothing.

Second of all, are you saying that the Carter Page FISA warrant is not part of the counterintelligence investigation by the FBI? Seems pretty obvious that it is. So unless that's what you're saying, it's difficult to see your point. My point is that Nunes' memo of February 2018 alleges that the FISA warrant was made on grounds of the Steele Dossier. If he (and you) are now claiming there was something further, something that goes back from before the Dossier, that memo, which had achieved the status of political canon (and cannon) in Trumpworld, is misleading--as Nunes' own words and behavior now show.

Dismiss that all you want; it's obviously correct.



Other parts you don't address. Your post is an obvious attempt at further spin. Anyone not already in the grip of some twisted ideology who watches the video will see what I'm talking about.

The Page FISA warrant has nothing to do with the EC documents. The EC documents are the justification to START an investigation into Trump. The Page FISA warrant is nothing more than a later tactic in that investigation.

Now...this thread is about the EC documents and what they contain. Do you have any actual comment about them?
 
Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

He wouldn't have a deal if he didn't have something to offer, or was guilty of a crime for that matter.

Remember his lawyer announced to the world that he had a story to tell and was willing to tell it for a plea bargain.

Mueller took months to take him up on his offer as his investigation was already moving along smoothly and he didn't need him. But when he indicted Flynn he must have told Mueller something pretty juicy for Mueller to change his mind and make a deal.

You don't know what that is. If he had information, it might not even have anything to do with President Trump. Flynn might have something juicy on Obama, or members of his administration. Wouldn't that be a hoot? :lamo
 
Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

Geez, looks like some Trumplings woke up on the wrong side of the bed today lol!

Just another day in the life of supporting the Orange One.

May your day be scandal free! :)

More Left wing mud slinging. Hopefully something will stick, one day. :lamo
 
Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

You don't know what that is. If he had information, it might not even have anything to do with President Trump. Flynn might have something juicy on Obama, or members of his administration. Wouldn't that be a hoot? :lamo

Are you offering odds that is how it will come out?
 
Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

Are you offering odds that is how it will come out?

President Trump isn't going to be prosecuted.
 
Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

What is an official product?

You cannot define a term using the words of the term. That is merely repeating yourself

Cmon MC. Show me that you can use your words and tell me what official intelligence is and how it differs from unofficial intelligence

I'm not defining a term by using the words of a term. The intelligence community produces a variety of products...some official intelligence...some not official intelligence.

For example, a CIA agent might acquire intelligence information that relates to an American citizen. The agent relays that up the chain and the CIA sends that information to the FBI for their consideration and possible action. That is official intelligence. On the other hand, some person...not with the CIA...might give some information to the CIA. The CIA sends that information to the FBI. That is not official intelligence.

Nunes has said that the EC documents sent to the FBI contains no official intelligence.
 
Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

President Trump isn't going to be prosecuted.

Well of course he isn't, ex president trump will be...
 
Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

President Trump isn't going to be prosecuted.

I was referring to Flynn having dirt on Obama rather than trump.
 
Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

Well of course he isn't, ex president trump will be...

No, not even then. Go ahead and get used to that reality.
 
Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

I was referring to Flynn having dirt on Obama rather than trump.

I don't know. Neither do you. Mueller has already told the president that he isn't a target. Flynn didn't have much on President Trump, if he still isn't a target after all this time.
 
Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

I'm not defining a term by using the words of a term. The intelligence community produces a variety of products...some official intelligence...some not official intelligence.

For example, a CIA agent might acquire intelligence information that relates to an American citizen. The agent relays that up the chain and the CIA sends that information to the FBI for their consideration and possible action. That is official intelligence. On the other hand, some person...not with the CIA...might give some information to the CIA. The CIA sends that information to the FBI. That is not official intelligence.

Nunes has said that the EC documents sent to the FBI contains no official intelligence.


So what you are saying is he had nothing of substance to share in that interview ( eight minutes of my life I'll never get back). Be was just tossing red herrings to cult trump.

They are after all their favorite snack, kinda like Scooby snacks...
 
Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

I don't know. Neither do you. Mueller has already told the president that he isn't a target. Flynn didn't have much on President Trump, if he still isn't a target after all this time.


Have you ever been the target of an ongoing investigation where the Investigator told you that you were a target?

Of course not and neither has anyone else...
 
Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

So what you are saying is he had nothing of substance to share in that interview ( eight minutes of my life I'll never get back). Be was just tossing red herrings to cult trump.

They are after all their favorite snack, kinda like Scooby snacks...

He spoke specifically about the EC documents he was finally able to see. This is something that none of us in the public had information about.

I'd say there was a great amount of substance in that interview. You, of course, might disagree.
 
Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

No, not even then. Go ahead and get used to that reality.

If you think trump is coming out of this clean you still must believe in the Easter Bunny, and Santa.

It's common knowledge that trump has been laundering Russian mob money for decades. This is the first time any Investigation into him had the financing to have the same teeth as trump.ps lawyers. Now one is going down and trump is sending him messages to not flip.

If he doesn't it won't be because of the pardon he may or may not get. It will be for the fear of radio active borscht...

That is why you have people like Nunes running around trying to pretend that the investigation was illegal. They know a technicality it the last the last straw they are reaching for.
 
Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

He spoke specifically about the EC documents he was finally able to see. This is something that none of us in the public had information about.

I'd say there was a great amount of substance in that interview. You, of course, might disagree.

He also claimed that JRs trump tower meeting was about adoptions and yet Jr himself made e.ails public that 100% proved otherwise.

He may not be as blatant of a liar as your hero but i still will not believe a word that comes from him.
 
Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

Geez, looks like some Trumplings woke up on the wrong side of the bed today lol!

Just another day in the life of supporting the Orange One.

May your day be scandal free! :)

Actually, Conservatives are stoked over this news !
The investigation into Trump Russia collusion has always rested on unsubstantiated, Democrat funded partisan oppo-research and thats not all.

Notice the following WaPo article from January 2017 ?

Intel Chiefs Brief Obama and Trump on unconfirmed reports Russia has compromising information on President - elect
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/intelligence-chiefs-briefed-trump-and-obama-on-unconfirmed-claims-russia-has-compromising-information-on-president-elect/2017/01/10/9da3969e-d788-11e6-9a36-1d296534b31e_story.html?utm_term=.84bf24f37e74

To legitimize and publicize the dossier allegations, Obama's Intel Cheifs fed it to Congress, Trump and Obama. Brennan and Clapper were well aware of its origins and who payed for it

What s bunch of low lifes ! Brennan fed Harry Reid the dossier, Harry Reid asked Comey to begin a investigation. The FBI then relied information in the dossier on Carter Page to obtain FISA warrants to spy on Trumps entire campaign.
 
Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

To legitimize and publicize the dossier allegations, Obama's Intel Cheifs fed it to Congress, Trump and Obama. Brennan and Clapper were well aware of its origins and who payed for it

What s bunch of low lifes ! Brennan fed Harry Reid the dossier, Harry Reid asked Comey to begin a investigation. The FBI then relied information in the dossier on Carter Page to obtain FISA warrants to spy on Trumps entire campaign.

:rofl You're almost as good as Nunes. Keep practicing.

P.S. There is no space between the end of a sentence and an exclamation mark!
 
Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

He also claimed that JRs trump tower meeting was about adoptions and yet Jr himself made e.ails public that 100% proved otherwise.

He may not be as blatant of a liar as your hero but i still will not believe a word that comes from him.

I must have missed the part in the interview where anyone mentioned Jr. Can you give me a time mark?
 
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