Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump[W:895]

[Fearandloathing]

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This morning, Rep. Nunes was interviewed by Maria Bartiromo of Fox News. He made a statement about what was found in the electronic communications document he was finally able to get from the FBI that is simply stunning.

Listen for yourself:

Snore


Propaganda now, after months, a year and now there's no basis for the investigation.


Right. The bum boy for Stable Genius says there's corruption in the state department, a department which has been Trump's responsibility for a year...

Broadcast by the propaganda machine of the Trump party

 

[trixare4kids]

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Actually, Conservatives are stoked over this news !
The investigation into Trump Russia collusion has always rested on unsubstantiated, Democrat funded partisan oppo-research and thats not all.

Notice the following WaPo article from January 2017 ?

Intel Chiefs Brief Obama and Trump on unconfirmed reports Russia has compromising information on President - elect
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/intelligence-chiefs-briefed-trump-and-obama-on-unconfirmed-claims-russia-has-compromising-information-on-president-elect/2017/01/10/9da3969e-d788-11e6-9a36-1d296534b31e_story.html?utm_term=.84bf24f37e74

To legitimize and publicize the dossier allegations, Obama's Intel Cheifs fed it to Congress, Trump and Obama. Brennan and Clapper were well aware of its origins and who payed for it

What s bunch of low lifes ! Brennan fed Harry Reid the dossier, Harry Reid asked Comey to begin a investigation. The FBI then relied information in the dossier on Carter Page to obtain FISA warrants to spy on Trumps entire campaign.

I always figured Brennan got the ball rolling... Tell us all again that there is NO deep state.

 

[smallvoice]

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All right, honestly did ANYONE think there was any real intelligence that started that investigation? Only the progressives...

 

[GDViking]

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Actually, Conservatives are stoked over this news !
The investigation into Trump Russia collusion has always rested on unsubstantiated, Democrat funded partisan oppo-research and thats not all.

Notice the following WaPo article from January 2017 ?

Intel Chiefs Brief Obama and Trump on unconfirmed reports Russia has compromising information on President - elect
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/intelligence-chiefs-briefed-trump-and-obama-on-unconfirmed-claims-russia-has-compromising-information-on-president-elect/2017/01/10/9da3969e-d788-11e6-9a36-1d296534b31e_story.html?utm_term=.84bf24f37e74

To legitimize and publicize the dossier allegations, Obama's Intel Cheifs fed it to Congress, Trump and Obama. Brennan and Clapper were well aware of its origins and who payed for it

What s bunch of low lifes ! Brennan fed Harry Reid the dossier, Harry Reid asked Comey to begin a investigation. The FBI then relied information in the dossier on Carter Page to obtain FISA warrants to spy on Trumps entire campaign.

Well let's suppose for a second that the dossier was the one and only cause for this Investigation, ( which absolutely no one believes, not even the people trying to sell it) regardless of the fact there were investigations already in progress and not just from US agencies.

The fact that nothing in the dossier has been disproven, and nearly all of it has been substantiated. The pee tape is questionable but recent evidence that trump was there at the time in question tends to give it more credibility.

So even if it was the only thing used it apparently was appropriate, and a dam good thing so now we know know that Russia is meddling in our elections and we have been able to take steps to stop them!

Oh wait...

 

[GDViking]

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I must have missed the part in the interview where anyone mentioned Jr. Can you give me a time mark?

Goes to credibility...

Judge : objection overruled...

 

[Vern]

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The Foxnews article alledges the FBI fired Steele in September 2016 for "talking to the press." If that's true, then why did the FBI meet with Steele in Rome in early October 2016 and offer him $50K to cooberate the dossier?

MC, I have to laugh that you think Mueller not interviewing a Russian operative proves something. You cant even attempt to explain how that factoid disputes the fact that Nunes is a liar and trump stooge. But its words and that’s all you need to ignore the facts. The words don’t even have to make sense as long as they’re words. lets review shall we

First, the emails show that the meeting was about getting dirt on Hillary from the Russian govt. In his third version of his story, don jr finally admitted they discussed dirt on Hillary. He said it was vague and he didn’t believe it (remember, this is his third version). And Veselnitskaya said don jr asked about Uranium 1. So their stories don’t even match.

So to be clear, when nunes says the meeting was about adoptions, he again proves he’s a liar and a trump stooge. Hence you shouldn’t obediently believe anything he says.

 

[Vern]

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Well without researching it, I remember it coming from the Aussie Ambassador that heard it from the drunken Papadopoulis in a London bar.

Nunes admitted that in the memo he released in February. This was at the end of the memo so no conservative read it. few make it past the headline

The Papadopoulos information triggered the opening of an FBI counterintelligence investigation in late July 2016 by FBI agent Pete Strzok.

 

[Vern]

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Maybe...

No "maybe" about it MC. Nunes told you in his February memo.

The Papadopoulos information triggered the opening of an FBI counterintelligence investigation in late July 2016 by FBI agent Pete Strzok.

what happened to the guy who claimed he filters out bias and considers the facts. Did that person ever exist?

I filter out the bias and consider the facts.

 

[Vern]

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Come up with a credible source, Vern. Know whatta mean?

What a desperate yet lazy response. Usually desperate people put more effort into their whiny flails. the source is a video of Nunes saying

“If you look at the one example of which was I think bad judgement which is where they met with a Russian lawyer, but it had to do with Russian adoptions,”

and a quick review of Don jr's emails gives us this nugget

The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.

This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.

Ap, when you're not even trying, what does it say about conservatism?

 

[apdst]

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What a desperate yet lazy response. Usually desperate people put more effort into their whiny flails. the source is a video of Nunes saying

“If you look at the one example of which was I think bad judgement which is where they met with a Russian lawyer, but it had to do with Russian adoptions,”

and a quick review of Don jr's emails gives us this nugget

The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.

This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.

Ap, when you're not even trying, what does it say about conservatism?

Is that from Think Progress, Vern? :lamo

 

[apdst]

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Well let's suppose for a second that the dossier was the one and only cause for this Investigation, ( which absolutely no one believes, not even the people trying to sell it) regardless of the fact there were investigations already in progress and not just from US agencies.

The fact that nothing in the dossier has been disproven, and nearly all of it has been substantiated. The pee tape is questionable but recent evidence that trump was there at the time in question tends to give it more credibility.

So even if it was the only thing used it apparently was appropriate, and a dam good thing so now we know know that Russia is meddling in our elections and we have been able to take steps to stop them!

Oh wait...

The dossier doesn't have to be disproven. It's the prosecution's job to prove that it's true. If that's your argument, Mueller might as well close up shop today.

 

[GDViking]

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The dossier doesn't have to be disproven. It's the prosecution's job to prove that it's true. If that's your argument, Mueller might as well close up shop today.

And he has, so what are you trying to get at.

It's the intelligence communities job to investigate it and they have. The more we know the more is substantiated.

I think that it is far more likely that the pee tape turns out to be true than Flynn gave Mueller dirt on Obama.

 

[Mycroft]

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Snore


Propaganda now, after months, a year and now there's no basis for the investigation.


Right. The bum boy for Stable Genius says there's corruption in the state department, a department which has been Trump's responsibility for a year...

Broadcast by the propaganda machine of the Trump party

Hey...you got a dictionary for all this slang you use? It's hard to understand what you are saying without one.

 

[Mycroft]

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Goes to credibility...

Judge : objection overruled...

Oh...so now there's substance?

Well, you walked that back. Keep walking.

 

[Fenton]

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Nunes admitted that in the memo he released in February. This was at the end of the memo so no conservative read it. few make it past the headline

The Papadopoulos information triggered the opening of an FBI counterintelligence investigation in late July 2016 by FBI agent Pete Strzok.

Kind of strange that James Clapper never heard about Papadopoulos then...



I guess Clapper wasn't in on the creation of the fake after the fact, fake Popadopoulos origin story

 

[Mycroft]

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No "maybe" about it MC. Nunes told you in his February memo.

The Papadopoulos information triggered the opening of an FBI counterintelligence investigation in late July 2016 by FBI agent Pete Strzok.

what happened to the guy who claimed he filters out bias and considers the facts. Did that person ever exist?

We are talking about the EC documents and what was in them. All we know at this point is what is not in them. Whether anything about Papa-whatshisname is in the documents...nobody knows.

That's what I was talking about when I said "maybe".

You see...we are talking about facts here. Bias doesn't apply.

 

[Atomic Kid]

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Neither were illegal for Flynn to do. You people didn't lose your minds when Candidate Obama did it. Why is that?

Obama was completely open and above board about it. It was not secretive and he didn't try to amend the foreign policy of the President in office. Big difference.

 

[Lerxst]

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More Left wing mud slinging. Hopefully something will stick, one day. :lamo

It sticks every day.

 

[Atomic Kid]

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Dude. A "Senate committee" is a Congressional committee. Besides, I said, "Congress actually ...etc."

Stop trying to nitpick and speculate your way out of this. You are acting silly.

The distinction is important in my view because the Congressional committee is an absolute joke because of Nunes's extreme partisan politics whereas the Senate committee isn't that way.

 

[Lerxst]

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Actually, Conservatives are stoked over this news !
The investigation into Trump Russia collusion has always rested on unsubstantiated, Democrat funded partisan oppo-research and thats not all.

Notice the following WaPo article from January 2017 ?

Intel Chiefs Brief Obama and Trump on unconfirmed reports Russia has compromising information on President - elect
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/intelligence-chiefs-briefed-trump-and-obama-on-unconfirmed-claims-russia-has-compromising-information-on-president-elect/2017/01/10/9da3969e-d788-11e6-9a36-1d296534b31e_story.html?utm_term=.84bf24f37e74

To legitimize and publicize the dossier allegations, Obama's Intel Cheifs fed it to Congress, Trump and Obama. Brennan and Clapper were well aware of its origins and who payed for it

What s bunch of low lifes ! Brennan fed Harry Reid the dossier, Harry Reid asked Comey to begin a investigation. The FBI then relied information in the dossier on Carter Page to obtain FISA warrants to spy on Trumps entire campaign.

Fascinating! I want more of your incredible insight!

 

[Mycroft]

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The distinction is important in my view because the Congressional committee is an absolute joke because of Nunes's extreme partisan politics whereas the Senate committee isn't that way.

Are you sure? That Sen. Grassley isn't that way, I mean?

Wait...I guess I should ask: Do you know what Grassley is investigating?

 

[Atomic Kid]

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We are talking about the EC documents and what was in them. All we know at this point is what is not in them. Whether anything about Papa-whatshisname is in the documents...nobody knows.

That's what I was talking about when I said "maybe".

You see...we are talking about facts here. Bias doesn't apply.

Why does Nunes think that every piece of information that comes to the FBI or US Intelligence has to come via Five Eyes by electronic communications when there are many other ways or even other potential sources for this information to get passed along? For all he knows that information could have been passed along at some foreign embassy cocktail party. Obviously he didn't get what he thought he was going get by demanding these documents and now is spinning it off to deflect from his failure.

 

[Mycroft]

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Fascinating! I want more of your incredible insight!

None of that is "incredible insight". It's fact.

 

[GDViking]

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Oh...so now there's substance?

Well, you walked that back. Keep walking.

I didn't walk anything back. You asked why I brought up Jr, I responded. Apparently you conceded the point as you have no poignant response...

 

[Atomic Kid]

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Are you sure? That Sen. Grassley isn't that way, I mean?

Wait...I guess I should ask: Do you know what Grassley is investigating?

I guess I should ask: Do you know which committee Grassley is on?