Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump[W:895]

[Mycroft]

Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

I want to see the document in question, and read it myself.
Propaganda is inherently suspicious.

LOL!!

Okay, get yourself a clearance at least equal to Nunes and maybe you can see it.

Good luck with that.

 

[Mach]

Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

Nunes dismissed that Papa-whatshisface nonsense in that interview. He doesn't need any help with it.

Vern already respond to that too:

Now you have another big step [person], cut and paste the blurb from your link that you think proves your point. And then explain the "theory" you have that you think disproves your conservative masters telling you

Will you back your claim with a quote from the video so we're not left guessing which one you are backing? Didn't you say it was lazy not to do that a few posts back?
Maybe now you see why a transcript would be useful too, if you're going to debate content of a video as being "stunning".

 

[Mycroft]

Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

Vern already respond to that too:


Will you back your claim with a quote from the video so we're not left guessing which one you are backing? Didn't you say it was lazy not to do that a few posts back?
Maybe now you see why a transcript would be useful too, if you're going to debate content of a video as being "stunning".

I gave a time mark. Watch the video.

 

[Mycroft]

Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

You know...speaking of "propaganda"...normally, when Nunes comes out with a statement Schiffty immediately comes out with his propaganda spin about it. Seems Schiffty is keeping quiet this time around.

I wonder why? Could it be he can't actually dispute what Nunes says about the EC documents? For sure, he won't be caught dead agreeing with Nunes.

Yeah...best to just not say anything.

 

[Mach]

Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

LOL!!
Okay, get yourself a clearance at least equal to Nunes and maybe you can see it.
Good luck with that.

So we have to take Nunes's word for it, when he's done this many times before and been busted on it? Remember the super secret dash to the white house at night where they showed him classified intel, which he then ran to the press with, and then made a charade of telling the White House what he learned (what he learned from the White House)?
Or the Nunes memo that had Trey Gowdy reviewing the classified intel, taking cherry-picked, out of context notes, and letting Nunes craft a misleading narrative from it? While blocking the Democrat response for weeks?

And now this...another partisan nothingburger....

And you say you distrust politicians? Selectively I see.

 

[Unitedwestand13]

Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

So we have to take Nunes's word for it, when he's done this many times before and been busted on it? Remember the super secret dash to the white house at night where they showed him classified intel, which he then ran to the press with, and then made a charade of telling the White House what he learned (what he learned from the White House)?
Or the Nunes memo that had Trey Gowdy reviewing the classified intel, taking cherry-picked, out of context notes, and letting Nunes craft a misleading narrative from it? While blocking the Democrat response for weeks?

And now this...another partisan nothingburger....

And you say you distrust politicians? Selectively I see.

I think nunes is doing this because he is facing a tough reelection battle this year

 

[Mach]

Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

I gave a time mark. Watch the video.

I accept your forfeiture by laziness.

 

[Vern]

Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

So we have to take Nunes's word for it, when he's done this many times before and been busted on it? Remember the super secret dash to the white house at night where they showed him classified intel, which he then ran to the press with, and then made a charade of telling the White House what he learned (what he learned from the White House)?
Or the Nunes memo that had Trey Gowdy reviewing the classified intel, taking cherry-picked, out of context notes, and letting Nunes craft a misleading narrative from it? While blocking the Democrat response for weeks?

And now this...another partisan nothingburger....

And you say you distrust politicians? Selectively I see.

If you want to feel sad for Mycroft, then watch what he thinks is Nunes "dismissing" Papadopoulos. Nunes is not "dismissing" Papadopoulos. He wants to investigate the State Dept because of "major irregularities". He wants to know how the FBI got the info from London. Now I feel sad for America because a Russian kompromat is in charge of the House Intelligence Committee. They must have something on Gowdy too because he's letting it happen.

 

[Vern]

Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

Go to the video...time mark 1:45 or so.

MC, you're still filtering out the facts. Nunes wants to investigate the state dept because he wants to know how the FBI got the intel on Papadopoulos. He is not "dismissing" Papadopoulos. He says "Papadopoulos was supposedly meeting with people in London". He doesn't get to be the head of the House Intelligence committee and say "Papadopoulos was supposedly meeting with people in London" If nunes needs to know any facts, he should consult the NYTimes. they broke the story

During a night of heavy drinking at an upscale London bar in May 2016, George Papadopoulos, a young foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign, made a startling revelation to Australia’s top diplomat in Britain: Russia had political dirt on Hillary Clinton. About three weeks earlier, Mr. Papadopoulos had been told that Moscow had thousands of emails that would embarrass Mrs. Clinton, apparently stolen in an effort to try to damage her campaign.

Exactly how much Mr. Papadopoulos said that night at the Kensington Wine Rooms with the Australian, Alexander Downer, is unclear. But two months later, when leaked Democratic emails began appearing online, Australian officials passed the information about Mr. Papadopoulos to their American counterparts, according to four current and former American and foreign officials with direct knowledge of the Australians’ role.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/30/...-investigation-began-george-papadopoulos.html

So MC, just to be perfectly clear, Nunes is not "dismissing Papadopoulos". You need to put America first and stop filtering out the facts. And the first fact you need to stop filtering out is that I've proven Nunes is a liar and trump stooge.

 

[upsideguy]

Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

Nunes dismissed that Papa-whatshisface nonsense in that interview. He doesn't need any help with it.

Lol. And 100% of that 1/2 to 2/3 are liberals simply parroting liberal talking points. Maybe that is the sort of thing that persuades you. but it doesnt do a thing for me.

You are trying to make your point, you have to make it to the group as a whole. Communication is about finding common ground. You did not. Merely posting up some political porn may get your friends off, but it just looks like smut to the rest of us. We are unimpressed. Consider your point not made. Nunes has zero credibility, so what he has to say is irrelevant.

Meanwhile, lets take an inventory of Nune's pathetic credibility

The Note: Nunes? crisis of credibility - ABC News
http://thehill.com/policy/national-...s-memo-degrades-house-intelligence-committees
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ently-lends-credibility-to-christopher-steele
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/23/...ibility-of-house-panel-he-leads-in-doubt.html
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2018/...dibility-for-the-nunes-memo-just-disappeared/

even his hometown paper...

http://www.modbee.com/opinion/editorials/article196712174.html


Your man is a fool. Don't you be a fool by standing by one.


BTW. I don't do talking points.

 

[PLizzy]

Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

Yea thats just nonsense. The FISA warrants were against Carter Page, and there was no mention of Popadopoulos until they needed to establish a new origin story.

James Clapper testified he had never heard of Popadopolous, which means he wasn't even part of the " intelligence " Brennan and Comey and Clapper used to brief Congress, Trump and Obama

Again, after the origins of the dossier were revealed, a new origin story had to be developed, and the Left fell for it

Just when I think you can't sound anymore foolish, you find a way outdo yourself again.

The Nunes memo (the one that you worship as the infallible truth) outright acknowledges that it was Popadopolous that triggered the FBI probe, not the Carter Page surveillance.

Here it is in big red font, so you can't say you didn't see it.

The Popadopolous information triggered the opening of the FBI counterintelligence investigation by FBI agent Peter Strzok.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4365338-Nunes-memo.html

You've stated that you've read this memo before so I can conclude at this point that you have terrible memory, you didn't actually read it, or you're just a lying hack with no shame.

 

[Mycroft]

Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

So we have to take Nunes's word for it, when he's done this many times before and been busted on it? Remember the super secret dash to the white house at night where they showed him classified intel, which he then ran to the press with, and then made a charade of telling the White House what he learned (what he learned from the White House)?
Or the Nunes memo that had Trey Gowdy reviewing the classified intel, taking cherry-picked, out of context notes, and letting Nunes craft a misleading narrative from it? While blocking the Democrat response for weeks?

And now this...another partisan nothingburger....

And you say you distrust politicians? Selectively I see.

shrug...

You can always just wait and see what happens.

 

[Mycroft]

Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

MC, you're still filtering out the facts. Nunes wants to investigate the state dept because he wants to know how the FBI got the intel on Papadopoulos. He is not "dismissing" Papadopoulos. He says "Papadopoulos was supposedly meeting with people in London". He doesn't get to be the head of the House Intelligence committee and say "Papadopoulos was supposedly meeting with people in London" If nunes needs to know any facts, he should consult the NYTimes. they broke the story

During a night of heavy drinking at an upscale London bar in May 2016, George Papadopoulos, a young foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign, made a startling revelation to Australia’s top diplomat in Britain: Russia had political dirt on Hillary Clinton. About three weeks earlier, Mr. Papadopoulos had been told that Moscow had thousands of emails that would embarrass Mrs. Clinton, apparently stolen in an effort to try to damage her campaign.

Exactly how much Mr. Papadopoulos said that night at the Kensington Wine Rooms with the Australian, Alexander Downer, is unclear. But two months later, when leaked Democratic emails began appearing online, Australian officials passed the information about Mr. Papadopoulos to their American counterparts, according to four current and former American and foreign officials with direct knowledge of the Australians’ role.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/30/...-investigation-began-george-papadopoulos.html

So MC, just to be perfectly clear, Nunes is not "dismissing Papadopoulos". You need to put America first and stop filtering out the facts. And the first fact you need to stop filtering out is that I've proven Nunes is a liar and trump stooge.

LOL!! Just look at the expression on his face when he says that.

 

[Mycroft]

Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

You are trying to make your point, you have to make it to the group as a whole.

I don't.

I'll make my point. It's up to you what you do with it. I don't give a rat's ass about "the group".

 

[Chomsky]

Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

whoops. I was replying to Mycroft but I got more of an honest answer from you so I cant rule out doing it again in the future.

:lamo

Funny stuff!

 

[Vern]

Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

LOL!! Just look at the expression on his face when he says that.

MC, you're not addressing the fact that contrary to your statement Nunes did not "dismiss" Papadopoulos in the video. See how you effortlessly filter out the facts. Why do you choose lying conservative narratives over your integrity?

 

[PLizzy]

Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

MC, you're not addressing the fact that contrary to your statement Nunes did not "dismiss" Papadopoulos in the video. See how you effortlessly filter out the facts. Why do you choose lying conservative narratives over your integrity?

Filtering out facts = lying.

 

[Moot]

Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

Not exactly. Comey said nothing about Papa-whatshisname.

So...what is that supposed to prove?

 

[MrMike]

Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

I almost feel bad for the Liberals that feverishly supported the Trump-Russian collusion scam but I admit I found joy in watching their hypocrisy and angst when they were confronted with the FACT Bill and Hillary benefited from direct payments of Russian cash.

MAGA

 

[distraff]

Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

This morning, Rep. Nunes was interviewed by Maria Bartiromo of Fox News. He made a statement about what was found in the electronic communications document he was finally able to get from the FBI that is simply stunning.

Listen for yourself:

Isn't he the same guy who made that inaccurate memo that democrats just tore apart?

 

[Mycroft]

Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

Isn't he the same guy who made that inaccurate memo that democrats just tore apart?

No. His memo was a factual summary of classified information. Schiffty tried, but failed, to tear it apart.

 

[distraff]

Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

No. His memo was a factual summary of classified information. Schiffty tried, but failed, to tear it apart.

Factual? The central claim of the Memo was the the FBI left out that the Steele Dossier had democrat funding. Yet Schiff quoted the FBI application which stated that Steele had been hired to find information to discredit Trump.
https://www.vox.com/world/2018/2/24/17048936/democrat-rebuttal-nunes-schiff-memo

 

[Mycroft]

Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

Factual? The central claim of the Memo was the the FBI left out that the Steele Dossier had democrat funding. Yet Schiff quoted the FBI application which stated that Steele had been hired to find information to discredit Trump.
https://www.vox.com/world/2018/2/24/17048936/democrat-rebuttal-nunes-schiff-memo

A vague reference to Steele in the footnotes says nothing about Hillary and the DNC funding the dossier.

 

[distraff]

Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

A vague reference to Steele in the footnotes says nothing about Hillary and the DNC funding the dossier.

Saying Steele was being paid by outside people to dig up dirt on Trump was more than enough for a judge to make his decision without knowing exactly who. Nunes made it look like the funding of the dossier was completely left out. Leaving out important context like that is just deceptive. That why our law enforcement community stated that Nunes left out very important context and misrepresented what happened. Nunes also left out that the application gave a lot of detail about Page's contacts with Russians outside of the Steele dossier and there was a lot more than just that dossier to justify the application.
https://www.vox.com/world/2018/2/24/17048936/democrat-rebuttal-nunes-schiff-memo

 

[Atomic Kid]

Re: Nunes: There Was NO OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE USED to Start DOJ Spying on Trump

A vague reference to Steele in the footnotes says nothing about Hillary and the DNC funding the dossier.

Saying Steele was being paid by outside people to dig up dirt on Trump was more than enough for a judge to make his decision without knowing exactly who. Nunes made it look like the funding of the dossier was completely left out. Leaving out important context like that is just deceptive. That why our law enforcement community stated that Nunes left out very important context and misrepresented what happened. Nunes also left out that the application gave a lot of detail about Page's contacts with Russians outside of the Steele dossier and there was a lot more than just that dossier to justify the application.
https://www.vox.com/world/2018/2/24/17048936/democrat-rebuttal-nunes-schiff-memo

Vague? Gee, I wonder in whose interest it would be to discredit Trump? Go ahead take a wild guess. In our two party system you have a 50/50 chance of being right. You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to figure that one out.