Not one technology came out of 'academic science'

[longview]

This is funny, Bell Labs treid..bla bl bla... had to wait. So, it is correct they haven't invented the transistor and here you agree, they stole the whole damn thing, Exactly what 'modern academic science' does all the time.

So, here we agree that Bell Lab didn't invent the transistor. Just what I am saying all the time.

But what do you mean what GSI?

It means that a professor at a university invented the idea of the transistor (contrary to your statement)
He left the University to pursue the patent on the Transistor. Bell labs started work on the Transistor in the 1940's,
knowing the patent would expire soon, almost a decade later Bell labs was able to get silicon pure enough to allow a successful transistor,
but really did not have an application. GSI a geophysical company, saw, and developed the first large scale commercial of the transistor.

 

[Palandro]

It means that a professor at a university invented the idea of the transistor (contrary to your statement)
He left the University to pursue the patent on the Transistor. Bell labs started work on the Transistor in the 1940's,
knowing the patent would expire soon, almost a decade later Bell labs was able to get silicon pure enough to allow a successful transistor,
but really did not have an application. GSI a geophysical company, saw, and developed the first large scale commercial of the transistor.

the transistor it self was NOT invented by a university. Have you even read my postings??

 

[Peter]

Cambridge University was founded over 800 years ago and in all that time the students have never invented anything?
That seems unlikely.

 

[longview]

the transistor it self was NOT invented by a university. Have you even read my postings??

It was invented by a professor, while he was working at a University, He left the university to try pursue the patent.
Had this happened today, the University would own the patent,because of the way intellectual property rules are written.

 

[longview]

Cambridge University was founded over 800 years ago and in all that time the students have never invented anything?
That seems unlikely.

Quite right!
https://academyofinventors.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Top-100-2018.pdf
Universities have patent rights on ideas developed by their employees (Professors and staff),
and some file over 100 patents per year.
Unlike industry, University research is not so goal directed, and so many novel idea originate from the University setting.

 

[CaughtInThe]

You can't fix stupid.

 

[Palandro]

You can't fix stupid.

please explain

 

[Jonsa]

Well, just write what is nonsensical and why that is, the floor is yours.

what's nonsensical is your defiance of fact. Cherry pick what you like, but it doesn't make your premise any less ludicrous.

By way of but one example.

By your logic, Democritus who hypothesized about atoms some 2,000 years ago invented the nuclear reactor. Modern technological development is dependent on primary, secondary and tertiary technologies brought together into a functional whole. Universities are constantly pumping out discoveries, theories, experiments, and bits and pieces whose integration often empowers commercial developers/inventors to create their own new technological solutions.

 

[JacksinPA]

Yes, there is not one technology that came out of 'academic science'. ALL, yes all technologies were invented
before 'academic science' 'had".
An example is the transistor. 'Academic Science' tells us the transistor is here because of quantum mechanics ( qm is bollocks by the way!). Nothing could be further from the truth.
The transistor was invented before quantum mechanics, And so it is with a whole lot of other inventions.
In reality 'academic science' simply can't deliver because the theories are very very wrong.
So, let's face it, people in 'academic science', 'scientists' have only a job to get them off the streets and earn some money to be able to buy some food. That's it. Nothing more.

Chromatography came from academic work (on flower pigments) & is essential in industries like pharmaceuticals for separating mixtures of organic compounds into pure components.

 

[Palandro]

Chromatography came from academic work (on flower pigments) & is essential in industries like pharmaceuticals for separating mixtures of organic compounds into pure components.

what year?

 

[JacksinPA]

what year?

Try Google. I am not a research librarian.

 

[Peter]

I guess they need to rename it to the Massachusetts Institute of Lies then.
They may chat a bit about technology but we all know the truth now.

 

[JacksinPA]

I guess they need to rename it to the Massachusetts Institute of Lies then.
They may chat a bit about technology but we all know the truth now.

What truth is that?

 

[JacksinPA]

what year?

Google search (first record): To write with colors -- literally translated from its Greek roots chroma and graphein , chromatography was first developed by the Russian botanist Mikhail Tswett in 1903 as he produced a colorful separation of plant pigments through a column of calcium carbonate.

Botany is an academic subject. See Mikhail Tsvet - Wikipedia

 

[Palandro]

Botany is an academic subject.

So? That doesn't mean botany is ONLY an academic subject.

 

[Palandro]

Google search (first record): To write with colors -- literally translated from its Greek roots chroma and graphein , chromatography was first developed by the Russian botanist Mikhail Tswett in 1903 as he produced a colorful separation of plant pigments through a column of calcium carbonate.

Botany is an academic subject. See Mikhail Tsvet - Wikipedia

ok, I have to look more into this.

 

[Palandro]

Everything computer related clearly didn't come out of "Modern Academic Science"

not the early magnetic disks ,not the first program language, not the logical AND circuit element basic to all computers, flip flops (for basics of memory in computers),harddisks(hdd) , hypertext , and on and on it goes.

 

[danielpalos]

Everything computer related clearly didn't come out of "Modern Academic Science"

not the early magnetic disks ,not the first program language, not the logical AND circuit element basic to all computers, flip flops (for basics of memory in computers),harddisks(hdd) , hypertext , and on and on it goes.

All it used to take for an individual was money. Somebody who can afford his own telescopic observatory will probably discover something.

 

[Palandro]

All it used to take for an individual was money. Somebody who can afford his own telescopic observatory will probably discover something.

Well, so?

 

[zyzygy]

Nope. They really didn't. AND they couldn't.

Funny to see how it all is defended like a religion...which science is.

Why are all of your posts evidence-free?

 

[zyzygy]

Feel free to invalidate the dates and topics mentioned with better sources?

Some hope! :lamo:lamo

 

[zyzygy]

Palandro:

This description is full of historical inaccuracies and falsehoods. By way of example, Quantum Mechanics and Quantum Theory were developed in the Late 19th and Early 20th centuries but the transistor was developed in the 1940s. So the transistor was developed after the birth of Quantum Mechanics, not before it as you falsely claim.

Academia has developed many technologies, so the OP's argument is bunk, pure and simple.

Cheers and be well.
Evilroddy.

Jack Nicholson is the father of QM.

 

[zyzygy]

Hell, even the technology which allegedly uses relativity corrections like GPS, doesn't even need relativity corrections
(Because relativity theory is completely wrong,)


and on and on it goes...

On and on you go........

GPS accounts for relativity by electronically adjusting the rates of the satellite clocks, and by building mathematical corrections into the computer chips which solve for the user's location. Without the proper application of relativity, GPS would fail in its navigational functions within about 2 minutes.
PhysicsCentral.

 

[zyzygy]

Well, QM itself is bollocks of course. so ...no.



Fair enough. I should have written 'academic science' after 1929-1930.
So I am referring to "modern' "academic science"'.

Prove it, professor. What is your theory of matter?

 

[zyzygy]

Well, just write what is nonsensical and why that is, the floor is yours.

All of your posts are nonsensical and show a complete lack of scientific knowledge.