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No Climate Doomsday Warning Has Come True

Incredible And Crazy – Incompetent Journalists And Climate Scientists

Posted on October 3, 2019 by tonyheller
A few weeks ago, during mid-winter, experts announced that rapidly growing Antarctic sea ice had “shrunk to record lows.”

Antarctic sea ice extent is right at the 1981-2010 mean.

The southern oceans are running well below normal temperature.

There is nothing in the least bit incredible or crazy going on.
During January, 1976 – there was almost no sea ice around Antarctica.

Lots of hysterics – no science – no reality or integrity either.


 
Jack Hays said:
Incredible And Crazy – Incompetent Journalists And Climate Scientists

A few weeks ago, during mid-winter, experts announced that rapidly growing Antarctic sea ice had “shrunk to record lows.”

Antarctic sea ice extent is right at the 1981-2010 mean.

The southern oceans are running well below normal temperature.

There is nothing in the least bit incredible or crazy going on.

During January, 1976 – there was almost no sea ice around Antarctica.

Lots of hysterics – no science – no reality or integrity either.
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You apparently haven't figured out that everything the left spews about the climate is entirely for propaganda purposes. It never had anything do with science from the very beginning, and still doesn't. This is entirely about their Marxist agenda to redistribute wealth and preventing third world-nations from developing into first-world industrial nations. We have literally spent hundreds of billions of US taxpayer dollars on a variety of countries in Africa to keep them from developing, and we are still doing it today.

You keep pointing out the obvious, while failing to comprehend that they left don't give a damn about science or facts. Snow and ice melt every Summer, so they intentionally highlight the decline of the Arctic ice-sheet in August and September, during the end of Summer in the northern hemisphere, and the decline of the Antarctic ice-sheet in January and February, the end of the Summer in the southern hemisphere. It is a fraudulent tactic they have been employing since the 1970s when they first starting making the bogus claim that CFCs were creating ozone "holes." In order to create ozone you need sunlight, or more specifically UV radiation. When there is no sunlight, there is no ozone. Like during the peak three months of Winters in both the Arctic and Antarctica, when there is no sunlight. Yet these idiot leftists continue to push their propaganda, even after it has been exposed as nothing but lies. Why?
 
LowDown said:
The more their predictions fail the more shrill their warnings. The more their science is proven false the more filled with certainty they are. Apparently the facts of the climate are not really the issue.

Goose eggs: No climate doomsday warning has come true
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Well, people are making predictions, they're not saying it WILL HAPPEN.

In order to understand science people come forward with hypothesis and then as we progress science gets closer and closer to the reality.

But then if the right were in charge of science, they'd just ban it.
 
Alarmist Scientist “Way Off Target” …Arctic Sea Ice/European Winter Claim Refuted By Newly Published Study

By P Gosselin on 15. October 2019
Rahmstorf way off: New study finds no robust relationship between shrinking sea ice, European cold waves
By Die Kalte Sonne
(German text translated/edited by P Gosselin)

A good six years ago, Potsdam climate researcher Stefan Rahmstorf was outraged by the German Weather Service (DWD) at his at Klimalounge site.
The DWD had the audacity to contradict Mr. Rahmstorf. Specifically, it was about the presumed connection between the expansion of Arctic sea ice and cold winter weather. Rahmstorf’s simple model: Less Arctic sea ice causes cold European winters. . . .
In the process Rahmstorf became verbally wild and didn’t hold back dishing it out: The DWD was embarrassing, incompetent in questions of climate change, that it could not even read scientific papers, the arguments were flat. It was an unusually aggressive style of discussion that is seldom encountered in science. Rahmstorf original:
However, the taz quoted [German paper] yesterday the spokesman of the German Weather Service [DWD in German] as saying that if there was a direct relationship with the sea ice cover, the entire winter would have to be very cold in Germany. I think this trivial argument with which he would like to wipe from the table the climate research results shown above is pretty embarrassing for the DWD. Of course open water in the Arctic does not prevent stochastic weather variability. There will always be warm and cold periods. In all these studies it comes down to changing probabilities in the prevailing weather patterns: Petoukhov and Semenov estimate that the probability of cold winter extremes could triple, that is even in the Abstract. One wonders whether the DWD representative has read the relevant studies at all – and if not, why he feels the urge to comment on them in the media. Unfortunately, it has a certain tradition that meteorologists dealing with weather, are not familiar with climate science.”
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More than half a decade has passed by since Rahmstorf’s rumblings. In the meantime, research has taken up the topic professionally and now has certainty: Rahmstorf was completely off the mark. Sea ice does not play a major role in the cold waves. Press release of the University of Exeter from August 12, 2019:

Arctic sea-ice loss has “minimal influence” on severe cold winter weather, research shows
The dramatic loss of Arctic sea ice through climate change has only a ‘minimal influence’ on severe cold winter weather across Asia and North America, new research has shown.
The possible connection between Arctic sea-ice loss and extreme cold weather – such as the deep freezes that can grip the USA in the winter months – has long been studied by scientists. Observations show that when the regional sea-ice cover is reduced, swathes of Asia and North America often experience unusually cold and hazardous winter conditions. However, previous climate modelling studies have suggested that reduced sea ice cannot fully explain the cold winters.
Now, a new study by experts from the University of Exeter, the Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute and the Energy and Sustainability Research Institute in Groningen, has shed new light on the link between sea-ice loss and cold winters. For the research, the international team combined observations over the past 40 years with results from sophisticated climate modelling experiments. They found that the observations and models agreed that reduced regional sea ice and cold winters often coincide which each other.
They found that the correlation between reduced sea ice and extreme winters across the mid-latitude occurs because both are simultaneously driven by the same, large-scale atmospheric circulation patterns. Crucially, it shows that reduced sea ice only has a minimal influence on whether a harsh and severe winter will occur. The study is published in leading science journal, Nature Climate Change. . . .

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akyron said:
Do you think they are happy or sad or learned anything from their failed predictions?

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You have to understand, this has absolutely nothing to do with global warming, climate change, or predictions, failed or otherwise. This entire leftist scam is all about redistribution of wealth, and preventing developing countries from becoming industrialized nations. Climate Change is the new form of Socialist Fascism.
 
[h=2]Climate ‘limits’ and timelines[/h][FONT=&quot]Posted on October 16, 2019 by curryja | 12 comments[/FONT]
by Judith Curry
Some thoughts in response to a query from a reporter.
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JC conclusion
Bottom line is that these timelines are meaningless. While we have confidence in the sign of the temperature change, we have no idea what its magnitude will turn out to be. Apart from uncertainties in emissions and the Earth’s carbon cycle, we are still facing a factor of 3 or more uncertainty in the sensitivity of the Earth’s climate to CO2, and we have no idea how natural climate variability (solar, volcanoes, ocean oscillations) will play out in the 21st century. And even if we did have significant confidence in the amount of global warming, we still don’t have much of a handle on how this will change extreme weather events. With regards to species and ecosystems, land use and exploitation is a far bigger issue.
 
PoS said:
Very true. However since this climate alarmism has become a religion, they dont care how wrong they are since theyre all fanatics who dont have a clue as to what's going on. I would compare them to ISIS or Al Qaeda.
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Oh they are far more dangerous than that. They aim to impoverish EVERYONE irrespective of their status. They are the enemy of our species and are by far the greatest threat we face today in my view :(
 
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[h=1]For Halloween: 10 days of Climate Scares -Debunked[/h][FONT=&quot]Every year, like clockwork, climate alarmists try to scare us with some new claim, and it seems each year it becomes more and more absurd. This is the first of 10 videos highlighting false climate scares by climate alarmists. This one shows how Al Gore was COMPLETELY WRONG about the polar ice caps disappearing in…
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[h=1]For Halloween: Climate Scares -Debunked #8[/h][FONT=&quot]This is the third of 10 videos highlighting false climate scares by climate alarmists. This one shows how climate alarmists have long predicted polar bears were in danger of extinction due to global warming. Not true. Happy Halloween! And find real scares this year, not fake ones the climate alarmists have foisted on your children.…
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[h=1]Halloween Climate Scare #7: Syrians Are Fleeing Due to Climate Change[/h][FONT=&quot]This is the fourth of 10 videos highlighting false climate scares by climate alarmists. This one shows how Al Gore claims Syrian refugees are fleeing the nation due to climate change, not war. False, again. Happy Halloween! And find real scares this year, not fake ones the climate alarmists have foisted on your children. Learn…
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Truthers, birthers, deniers and proud to be republican.

When miami is underwater they'll still be saying the same thing.
 
bongsaway said:
Truthers, birthers, deniers and proud to be republican.

When miami is underwater they'll still be saying the same thing.
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The leading climate skeptics are neither American nor Republican. To the extent their politics are known, they seem to be Euro-style social democrats. And Miami will be just fine.
 
Jack Hays said:
The leading climate skeptics are neither American nor Republican. To the extent their politics are known, they seem to be Euro-style social democrats. And Miami will be just fine.
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All the believers are republicans. Hottest year, hottest decade, monster storms, fire season out of control, cat five hurricanes in droves, five hundred year storms every other year but no, the climate isn't changing. Ask any republican.
 
bongsaway said:
All the believers are republicans. Hottest year, hottest decade, monster storms, fire season out of control, cat five hurricanes in droves, five hundred year storms every other year but no, the climate isn't changing. Ask any republican.
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Sorry, but that's just a propaganda rant unmoored in facts. It's a child's tantrum.
 
The IPCC has been ****ing over week minded leftists since...well...Al Gores "Inconvenient Truth" lost steam.

(NZZ AM SONNTAG): The new thing about your proposal for a Global Deal is the stress on the importance of development policy for climate policy. Until now, many think of aid when they hear development policies.

(OTTMAR EDENHOFER, UN IPCC OFFICIAL): That will change immediately if global emission rights are distributed. If this happens, on a per capita basis, then Africa will be the big winner, and huge amounts of money will flow there. This will have enormous implications for development policy. And it will raise the question if these countries can deal responsibly with so much money at all.

(NZZ): That does not sound anymore like the climate policy that we know.

(EDENHOFER): Basically it's a big mistake to discuss climate policy separately from the major themes of globalization. The climate summit in Cancun at the end of the month is not a climate conference, but one of the largest economic conferences since the Second World War. Why? Because we have 11,000 gigatons of carbon in the coal reserves in the soil under our feet - and we must emit only 400 gigatons in the atmosphere if we want to keep the 2-degree target. 11 000 to 400 - there is no getting around the fact that most of the fossil reserves must remain in the soil.

(NZZ): De facto, this means an expropriation of the countries with natural resources. This leads to a very different development from that which has been triggered by development policy.

(EDENHOFER): First of all, developed countries have basically expropriated the atmosphere of the world community. But one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy. Obviously, the owners of coal and oil will not be enthusiastic about this. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole.
 
The facts of Climate Change are clear and real and based on science. Predicting specific consequences from those facts is speculative. I think that all that can be said with certainty is that CC, if left unchecked over time, will be disruptive for many people because of rising sea levels and melting glaciers. The extent and timing of these disruptions remains to be seen.
 
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