Nationl Debt Tops $22 Trillion

[Conservative]

was or was not MOST of that budget submitted by BUSH?
Obama only added 253 Billion to it so don't try and blame all of 2009's debt on Obama
have a nice day

No, Bush got continuing resolutions approved by Congress based upon the 2008 numbers. There was no Bush budget approved for 2009. please stop making a fool of yourself

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[Tbird19482]

No, Bush got continuing resolutions approved by Congress based upon the 2008 numbers. There was no Bush budget approved for 2009. please stop making a fool of yourself

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So are you saying MOST of the 2009 budget that was passed was NOT submitted by BUSH?
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[Conservative]

So are you saying MOST of the 2009 budget that was passed was NOT submitted by BUSH?
good night

None of the 2009 budget was passed, you are embarrassing yourself. Learn what a CR is

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[Media_Truth]

So are you saying MOST of the 2009 budget that was passed was NOT submitted by BUSH?
good night

Just like the idiots who are driving up this debt - the Republidicks who cut taxes without cutting spending - he likes to ignore the entire Bush/Cheney fiasco - banking/housing crisis, bankrupt US auto industry, CEO corruption-gone-amuck, severely depressed stock market, 2 wars. Republodicks don't care about the deficit. They like to make it skyrocket so their FAUX News channel can harp on it endlessly, for the next Democratic president.

 

[Tbird19482]

Just like the idiots who are driving up this debt - the Republidicks who cut taxes without cutting spending - he likes to ignore the entire Bush/Cheney fiasco - banking/housing crisis, bankrupt US auto industry, CEO corruption-gone-amuck, severely depressed stock market, 2 wars. Republodicks don't care about the deficit. They like to make it skyrocket so their FAUX News channel can harp on it endlessly, for the next Democratic president.

Some how He has this idea that Obama submitted the 2009 budget.
It was Bush and that is by the Constitution Bush had to submit the 2009 budget
Yes the first one was rejected and it goes back to Congress they modify it and send it back to the President then he can pass it or veto it.
Most of what Bush submitted was in the Budget Obama finally signed,
But NOT according to him , according to him it is Obama's budget all Obama did is add something like 256 Billion to it.
He doesn't seem to understand that when a President signs a CR it also goes on the debt
If the country has already over spent the revenue that it takes in and a President signs a CR it goes on the debt
have a nice morning

 

[Tbird19482]

Some how He has this idea that Obama submitted the 2009 budget.
It was Bush and that is by the Constitution Bush had to submit the 2009 budget
Yes the first one was rejected and it goes back to Congress they modify it and send it back to the President then he can pass it or veto it.
Most of what Bush submitted was in the Budget Obama finally signed,
But NOT according to him , according to him it is Obama's budget all Obama did is add something like 256 Billion to it.
He doesn't seem to understand that when a President signs a CR it also goes on the debt
If the country has already over spent the revenue that it takes in and a President signs a CR it goes on the debt
have a nice morning

PS
and you are right according to him everything bad that happened that was bad was a Dem Presidents fault and everything good was a Republicans doing.
doesn't matter when the Recession started and everything that went with it Obama didn't get us out of it fast enough so it has to be all his fault.
he can't see that Obama had to fight with a Republican for 6 of the 8 years he was in office ( House 2 yearss under rep. Sen. ) and Trump had a fully controlled Republican congress and did nothing but a tax cut for the rich and run the debt up more in his first fiscal year then Obama did in 5 out of the 8 years he was in office.
Yes if it was bad then a Dem President did it and if it was good it had to be a Rep. President
have a nice day

 

[Conservative]

PS
and you are right according to him everything bad that happened that was bad was a Dem Presidents fault and everything good was a Republicans doing.
doesn't matter when the Recession started and everything that went with it Obama didn't get us out of it fast enough so it has to be all his fault.
he can't see that Obama had to fight with a Republican for 6 of the 8 years he was in office ( House 2 yearss under rep. Sen. ) and Trump had a fully controlled Republican congress and did nothing but a tax cut for the rich and run the debt up more in his first fiscal year then Obama did in 5 out of the 8 years he was in office.
Yes if it was bad then a Dem President did it and if it was good it had to be a Rep. President
have a nice day

How is it you don't understand the U.S. budget after all these years in this country. Your comments are an endorsement against your ideology. Bush submitted the 2009 budget as required by the Constitution and it was REJECTED!!! Is that a term you don't understand? We operated in the first part of fiscal year 2009, October to March without a budget and with continuing resolutions. Do you know what a CR is? Do some research and find out

What you radicals want to do is blame Bush for the spending but not give him credit for the revenue collected during that period of time or the repayment of TARP which was part of that PROJECTED deficit CBO announced. Do you know what PROJECTED Means?

Amazing how tax cuts for the rich have led to this. How do you explain your disconnect with that of the American electorate?

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[Tbird19482]

How is it you don't understand the U.S. budget after all these years in this country. Your comments are an endorsement against your ideology. Bush submitted the 2009 budget as required by the Constitution and it was REJECTED!!! Is that a term you don't understand? We operated in the first part of fiscal year 2009, October to March without a budget and with continuing resolutions. Do you know what a CR is? Do some research and find out

What you radicals want to do is blame Bush for the spending but not give him credit for the revenue collected during that period of time or the repayment of TARP which was part of that PROJECTED deficit CBO announced. Do you know what PROJECTED Means?

Amazing how tax cuts for the rich have led to this. How do you explain your disconnect with that of the American electorate?

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I believe I said that.
YOU don't seem to understand Obama did not change most of that budget and He only signed it AFTER it went back through Congress and sent to him
MOST of it was submitted by BUSH
FACT is it was Bush's last fiscal year and Obama did not take over the budget and debt till OCT 1 2009
yes you can add 256 Billion to his debt because he did add that to Bush's budget but you can not blame him for the whole debt for 2009
have a nice day

 

[Conservative]

I believe I said that.
YOU don't seem to understand Obama did not change most of that budget and He only signed it AFTER it went back through Congress and sent to him
MOST of it was submitted by BUSH
FACT is it was Bush's last fiscal year and Obama did not take over the budget and debt till OCT 1 2009
yes you can add 256 Billion to his debt because he did add that to Bush's budget but you can not blame him for the whole debt for 2009
have a nice day

Look, you continue to show how poorly informed you are one of the most partisan liberal hacks in this forum. Budgets are spending guidelines, appropriation bills are actual spending and Obama had every opportunity to implement his own spending and did that,

TARP Wasn't in the budget, the stimulus wasn't in the budget, the supplemental Afghanistan spending wasn't in the budget, the loss of 4 million jobs after the stimulus wasn't in the budget, but what was in this entire thread is your ignorance and partisanship.

Keep ignoring that TARP was repaid, keep ignoring that the stimulus didn't create the promised taxpayers, keep ignoring that there was no budget approved for 2009, keep ignoring that your partisanship is being rejected even today, keep ignoring that obama is responsible for 9.3 trillion added to the debt and generated the worst recovery from a recession in modern history. What is it about Obama and liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty where you have no problem seeing your credibility destroyed?

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[Dittohead not!]

By the way you're the one that said there were trillion-dollar deficits for Trump now you're telling me that he is cutting Medicare. You are really confused. You're also ignoring the actual Department Cuts proposed by Trump why is that?

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I didn't say he was cutting Medicare. I said he was proposing cuts to Medicare that he very well knows will never happen. The real purpose of those proposed cuts is so that he can tell his followers that he's cutting spending, but the evil Democrats won't let him. It's purely a political stunt, not a real cut to anything.

 

[MTAtech]

Some how He has this idea that Obama submitted the 2009 budget.
It was Bush and that is by the Constitution Bush had to submit the 2009 budget
Yes the first one was rejected and it goes back to Congress they modify it and send it back to the President then he can pass it or veto it.
Most of what Bush submitted was in the Budget Obama finally signed,
But NOT according to him , according to him it is Obama's budget all Obama did is add something like 256 Billion to it.
He doesn't seem to understand that when a President signs a CR it also goes on the debt
If the country has already over spent the revenue that it takes in and a President signs a CR it goes on the debt
have a nice morning

It doesn't matter. Con would have us believe that the prudent action by Obama would be to raise taxes and/or cut spending during the Great Recession -- both of which would have made the economy worse. But the time Obama was president, the economy was already in the tank and the only prudent measures are exactly what he did -- use fiscal policy to use the government as demand of last resort. The government also acted to give money through the stimulus to state and local governments so they wouldn't fire teachers and police.

Regarding deficits and debt, the Bush tax-cuts of 2001 and 2003 are largely responsible for the accumulated debt.

 

[Vadinho]

It doesn't matter. Con would have us believe that the prudent action by Obama would be to raise taxes and/or cut spending during the Great Recession -- both of which would have made the economy worse. But the time Obama was president, the economy was already in the tank and the only prudent measures are exactly what he did -- use fiscal policy to use the government as demand of last resort. The government also acted to give money through the stimulus to state and local governments so they wouldn't fire teachers and police.

Regarding deficits and debt, the Bush tax-cuts of 2001 and 2003 are largely responsible for the accumulated debt.

Along with the war on Moslems. Remember it was going to be done cheap and paid back by Iraqi oil?

 

[Conservative]

I didn't say he was cutting Medicare. I said he was proposing cuts to Medicare that he very well knows will never happen. The real purpose of those proposed cuts is so that he can tell his followers that he's cutting spending, but the evil Democrats won't let him. It's purely a political stunt, not a real cut to anything.

What is wrong with you, Medicare cuts, SS cuts have absolutely nothing to do with the deficit as these programs are pay as you go and part of the trust fund created by law. This is nothing more than red meat the liberals want to throw to the public to get them stirred up and voting for a bigger and more intrusive Federal gov't. Why aren't you discussing the real cuts on the President's budgets, actual department cuts like the Dept. of State? You haven't looked at the budget but buy what the left tells you

 

[Conservative]

It doesn't matter. Con would have us believe that the prudent action by Obama would be to raise taxes and/or cut spending during the Great Recession -- both of which would have made the economy worse. But the time Obama was president, the economy was already in the tank and the only prudent measures are exactly what he did -- use fiscal policy to use the government as demand of last resort. The government also acted to give money through the stimulus to state and local governments so they wouldn't fire teachers and police.

Regarding deficits and debt, the Bush tax-cuts of 2001 and 2003 are largely responsible for the accumulated debt.

Thank you for showing your ignorance of me and what I propose. Where did I say cutting spending on the Recession? NEVER, only that the Obama spending was to bail out Democratic support groups like Teachers and their union as well as auto unions. Nothing was done to promote the private sector and it is the private sector that creates jobs and real economic activity. Your lack of understanding of the private sector, our economy in general is staggering. Tax cuts don't cause deficits, spending does but tax cuts do take away power from the federal bureaucrats which is what truly bothers you

 

[Tbird19482]

Look, you continue to show how poorly informed you are one of the most partisan liberal hacks in this forum. Budgets are spending guidelines, appropriation bills are actual spending and Obama had every opportunity to implement his own spending and did that,

TARP Wasn't in the budget, the stimulus wasn't in the budget, the supplemental Afghanistan spending wasn't in the budget, the loss of 4 million jobs after the stimulus wasn't in the budget, but what was in this entire thread is your ignorance and partisanship.

Keep ignoring that TARP was repaid, keep ignoring that the stimulus didn't create the promised taxpayers, keep ignoring that there was no budget approved for 2009, keep ignoring that your partisanship is being rejected even today, keep ignoring that obama is responsible for 9.3 trillion added to the debt and generated the worst recovery from a recession in modern history. What is it about Obama and liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty where you have no problem seeing your credibility destroyed?

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The fiscal year 2009 budget describes Federal government revenue and spending for October 1, 2008, through September 30, 2009. The Bush Administration submitted it to Congress in February 2008, right on schedule, but Congress stated it was dead on arrival. Why? It was the first budget to propose spending more than $3 trillion, it underfunded the War on Terror, and its revenue projections ignored the warning signs of recession.

As a result, it wasn't signed until President Obama took office in 2009. At the end of FY 2008 (September 30, 2008), President Bush and Congress signed a Continuing Resolution to fund the government for another six months. As a result, the newly-elected President Obama passed the FY 2009 budget, folding in $253 billion in expenses for the Economic Stimulus Act.

" President Obama passed the FY 2009 budget, folding in $253 billion in expenses for the Economic Stimulus Act."
that is just about the only thing Obama changed in Bush's budget

and here read how it turned out

Obama Economic Stimulus Package: How ARRA Worked
How It Worked

ARRA had three spending categories. It cut taxes by $288 billion. It spent $224 billion in extended unemployment benefits, education, and health care. It created jobs by allocating $275 billion in federal contracts, grants, and loans.

Congress designed the Act to spend $720 billion, or 91.5 percent, in its first three fiscal years. It allocated $185 billion in FY 2009, $400 billion in FY 2010 and $135 billion in FY 2011.

The Obama administration did better than planned. By the end of FY 2009, it spent $179 billion according to a 2015 report by the Congressional Budget Office. Of that, $68 billion went toward tax relief and credits. Another was spent on $34 billion in health services and $21 billion on education. It also spent $28 billion in unemployment compensation and $13 billion in extra Social Security and veterans' checks.
The CBO published its final ARRA report in 2015. It estimated the total impact on the deficit would be $836 billion by 2019. As of fiscal year 2014, ARRA had added $827 billion to the deficit. Of that, $303 billion went toward tax relief and credits. Another $141 billion was spent on health services and $97 billion on education. It spent $64 billion on unemployment compensation, and $48 billion on the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.


In a 2009 report, the CBO projected ARRA would stimulate gross domestic product by 1.4 percent to 3.8 percent for the fourth quarter in 2009. The stimulus was successful in 2009 GDP. The economy grew 1.5 percent in the third quarter and 4.5 percent in the fourth quarter. That's a big improvement over the first quarter's 4.4 percent drop and the second quarter's 0.6 percent decline.

In 2009, the CBO predicted that ARRA would increase employment by 7 million full-time jobs by the end of 2012. In 2015, it estimated the stimulus created between 2 million and 10.9 million jobs. Most of the increase occurred by 2011.
have a nice day

 

[Conservative]

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The fiscal year 2009 budget describes Federal government revenue and spending for October 1, 2008, through September 30, 2009. The Bush Administration submitted it to Congress in February 2008, right on schedule, but Congress stated it was dead on arrival. Why? It was the first budget to propose spending more than $3 trillion, it underfunded the War on Terror, and its revenue projections ignored the warning signs of recession.

As a result, it wasn't signed until President Obama took office in 2009. At the end of FY 2008 (September 30, 2008), President Bush and Congress signed a Continuing Resolution to fund the government for another six months. As a result, the newly-elected President Obama passed the FY 2009 budget, folding in $253 billion in expenses for the Economic Stimulus Act.

" President Obama passed the FY 2009 budget, folding in $253 billion in expenses for the Economic Stimulus Act."
that is just about the only thing Obama changed in Bush's budget

and here read how it turned out

Obama Economic Stimulus Package: How ARRA Worked
How It Worked

ARRA had three spending categories. It cut taxes by $288 billion. It spent $224 billion in extended unemployment benefits, education, and health care. It created jobs by allocating $275 billion in federal contracts, grants, and loans.

Congress designed the Act to spend $720 billion, or 91.5 percent, in its first three fiscal years. It allocated $185 billion in FY 2009, $400 billion in FY 2010 and $135 billion in FY 2011.

The Obama administration did better than planned. By the end of FY 2009, it spent $179 billion according to a 2015 report by the Congressional Budget Office. Of that, $68 billion went toward tax relief and credits. Another was spent on $34 billion in health services and $21 billion on education. It also spent $28 billion in unemployment compensation and $13 billion in extra Social Security and veterans' checks.
The CBO published its final ARRA report in 2015. It estimated the total impact on the deficit would be $836 billion by 2019. As of fiscal year 2014, ARRA had added $827 billion to the deficit. Of that, $303 billion went toward tax relief and credits. Another $141 billion was spent on health services and $97 billion on education. It spent $64 billion on unemployment compensation, and $48 billion on the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.


In a 2009 report, the CBO projected ARRA would stimulate gross domestic product by 1.4 percent to 3.8 percent for the fourth quarter in 2009. The stimulus was successful in 2009 GDP. The economy grew 1.5 percent in the third quarter and 4.5 percent in the fourth quarter. That's a big improvement over the first quarter's 4.4 percent drop and the second quarter's 0.6 percent decline.

In 2009, the CBO predicted that ARRA would increase employment by 7 million full-time jobs by the end of 2012. In 2015, it estimated the stimulus created between 2 million and 10.9 million jobs. Most of the increase occurred by 2011.
have a nice day

Are you reading impaired, Bush had no budget approved and Obama didn't have to adhere to anything that Bush proposed so what did Obama do, recycle TARP not crediting the deficit with repayment, inherited no budget, inherited a Democratic Congress, signed a stimulus program almost day one for shovel ready jobs that saw the number of taxpayer drop by 4 million by the end of 2009 and was still down 3 million in 2010, he then bailed out AIG, spent money to take over GM/Chrysler then selling that entity to Italy


Do you understand the components of GDP, probably not, but gov't spending is one of the components so the increase in fourth qtr. GDP growth was due almost entirely by gov't spending so why is that such a big deal for you, what benefit did the American people get? Why was the Obama recovery called the worst in modern history? Why did we lose four million jobs in 2009 with a shovel ready jobs bill? Why is it the Obama economy didn't resonate with the American people as he lost the Congress in 2014 and 2016 with those policies and had polling numbers in the 20's on the economy?

Nothing you post changes history and none of what you post addresses the thread topic today nor the Treasury data showing 9.3 trillion Obama debt in 8 years. Debt when Bush lost his spending authority March 31, 2009 was 11 trillion dollars of which 350 billion was TARP, debt when Obama left office was 19.9 trillion, you do the math doing what Obama should have done credited the repayment of TARP against the deficit. Bush had nothing to do with the lost taxpayers, the part time for economic reason jobs Obama created, and the very poor economic policies that led to the worst recovery in U.S. history from a major recession.

You have a nice day

 

[Tbird19482]

What is wrong with you, Medicare cuts, SS cuts have absolutely nothing to do with the deficit as these programs are pay as you go and part of the trust fund created by law. This is nothing more than red meat the liberals want to throw to the public to get them stirred up and voting for a bigger and more intrusive Federal gov't. Why aren't you discussing the real cuts on the President's budgets, actual department cuts like the Dept. of State? You haven't looked at the budget but buy what the left tells you

If it has nothing to do with the deficit why do Trump and the Republicans keep saying it is the main cause?
Federal deficit increases, so Republicans propose Medicare cuts - Vox
Republicans have removed all doubt: When it comes to the federal deficit, the problem is Medicare and Social Security — not their own tax cuts for corporations and the wealthy.

Fresh off the news that the deficit is increasing under President Donald Trump, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell told Bloomberg News that Congress should target Social Security and Medicare for cuts to address the growing federal debt.

The federal deficit grew by nearly $800 billion over the first fiscal year of Trump’s presidency, during which the Republican Congress passed a tax cut targeted mostly to corporations and the wealthy, which is projected to add more than $1 trillion to the deficit over the next 10 years.
But, of course, a growing federal deficit hasn’t caused Republican leaders to reconsider their tax policy. Instead, they argue that entitlement reform — Republican-speak for cuts to popular social safety net programs — is what’s really needed to address the federal deficit.


Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell blamed rising federal deficits and debt on a bipartisan unwillingness to contain spending on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, and said he sees little chance of a major deficit reduction deal while Republicans control Congress and the White House.

“It’s disappointing, but it’s not a Republican problem,” McConnell said Tuesday in an interview with Bloomberg News when asked about the rising deficits and debt. “It’s a bipartisan problem: unwillingness to address the real drivers of the debt by doing anything to adjust those programs to the demographics of America in the future.”

Republicans were actually signaling during the tax debate, before the bill ever passed, that this was their strategy: pass a deficit-exploding tax cut and then argue that the real problem is federal spending on health and retirement benefits.

Again if it has nothing to do with the deficit why are the republicans saying they have to cut these programs to cut the deficit?
have a nice day

 

[Tbird19482]

Are you reading impaired, Bush had no budget approved and Obama didn't have to adhere to anything that Bush proposed so what did Obama do, recycle TARP not crediting the deficit with repayment, inherited no budget, inherited a Democratic Congress, signed a stimulus program almost day one for shovel ready jobs that saw the number of taxpayer drop by 4 million by the end of 2009 and was still down 3 million in 2010, he then bailed out AIG, spent money to take over GM/Chrysler then selling that entity to Italy


Do you understand the components of GDP, probably not, but gov't spending is one of the components so the increase in fourth qtr. GDP growth was due almost entirely by gov't spending so why is that such a big deal for you, what benefit did the American people get? Why was the Obama recovery called the worst in modern history? Why did we lose four million jobs in 2009 with a shovel ready jobs bill? Why is it the Obama economy didn't resonate with the American people as he lost the Congress in 2014 and 2016 with those policies and had polling numbers in the 20's on the economy?

Nothing you post changes history and none of what you post addresses the thread topic today nor the Treasury data showing 9.3 trillion Obama debt in 8 years. Debt when Bush lost his spending authority March 31, 2009 was 11 trillion dollars of which 350 billion was TARP, debt when Obama left office was 19.9 trillion, you do the math doing what Obama should have done credited the repayment of TARP against the deficit. Bush had nothing to do with the lost taxpayers, the part time for economic reason jobs Obama created, and the very poor economic policies that led to the worst recovery in U.S. history from a major recession.

You have a nice day

What don't you understand?
The budget Obama signed was basically Bush's budget with 256 Billion added to it.
Obama did NOT submit a budget for 2009 HE wasn't President
all he did was add 256 Billion to it and it passed and he signed it.
You are anti Obama you keep trying to put the 2009debt on him
The ONLY thing in the 2009 budget he is responsible for is that 256 Billion
talking to you is useless
have a nice day

 

[Conservative]

If it has nothing to do with the deficit why do Trump and the Republicans keep saying it is the main cause?
Federal deficit increases, so Republicans propose Medicare cuts - Vox
Republicans have removed all doubt: When it comes to the federal deficit, the problem is Medicare and Social Security — not their own tax cuts for corporations and the wealthy.

Fresh off the news that the deficit is increasing under President Donald Trump, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell told Bloomberg News that Congress should target Social Security and Medicare for cuts to address the growing federal debt.

The federal deficit grew by nearly $800 billion over the first fiscal year of Trump’s presidency, during which the Republican Congress passed a tax cut targeted mostly to corporations and the wealthy, which is projected to add more than $1 trillion to the deficit over the next 10 years.
But, of course, a growing federal deficit hasn’t caused Republican leaders to reconsider their tax policy. Instead, they argue that entitlement reform — Republican-speak for cuts to popular social safety net programs — is what’s really needed to address the federal deficit.


Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell blamed rising federal deficits and debt on a bipartisan unwillingness to contain spending on Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, and said he sees little chance of a major deficit reduction deal while Republicans control Congress and the White House.

“It’s disappointing, but it’s not a Republican problem,” McConnell said Tuesday in an interview with Bloomberg News when asked about the rising deficits and debt. “It’s a bipartisan problem: unwillingness to address the real drivers of the debt by doing anything to adjust those programs to the demographics of America in the future.”

Republicans were actually signaling during the tax debate, before the bill ever passed, that this was their strategy: pass a deficit-exploding tax cut and then argue that the real problem is federal spending on health and retirement benefits.

Again if it has nothing to do with the deficit why are the republicans saying they have to cut these programs to cut the deficit?
have a nice day

Have no idea nor do I care, the reality is as I described it and you ignore, there is a reason that you have a disconnect between what you believe and what the public thinks, wonder if you can figure out why.

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[Conservative]

What don't you understand?
The budget Obama signed was basically Bush's budget with 256 Billion added to it.
Obama did NOT submit a budget for 2009 HE wasn't President
all he did was add 256 Billion to it and it passed and he signed it.
You are anti Obama you keep trying to put the 2009debt on him
The ONLY thing in the 2009 budget he is responsible for is that 256 Billion
talking to you is useless
have a nice day

So Obama signed what was the Bush budget and thus it is Bush's responsibility for the deficit and had nothing to do with the way the budget spending was done or the Obama economic policies implemented? Liberal logic? So since he only spent 256 by your standards how did he bring us out of Recession? You have a nice day chewing on that one.

 

[Tbird19482]

Are you reading impaired, Bush had no budget approved and Obama didn't have to adhere to anything that Bush proposed so what did Obama do, recycle TARP not crediting the deficit with repayment, inherited no budget, inherited a Democratic Congress, signed a stimulus program almost day one for shovel ready jobs that saw the number of taxpayer drop by 4 million by the end of 2009 and was still down 3 million in 2010, he then bailed out AIG, spent money to take over GM/Chrysler then selling that entity to Italy


Do you understand the components of GDP, probably not, but gov't spending is one of the components so the increase in fourth qtr. GDP growth was due almost entirely by gov't spending so why is that such a big deal for you, what benefit did the American people get? Why was the Obama recovery called the worst in modern history? Why did we lose four million jobs in 2009 with a shovel ready jobs bill? Why is it the Obama economy didn't resonate with the American people as he lost the Congress in 2014 and 2016 with those policies and had polling numbers in the 20's on the economy?

Nothing you post changes history and none of what you post addresses the thread topic today nor the Treasury data showing 9.3 trillion Obama debt in 8 years. Debt when Bush lost his spending authority March 31, 2009 was 11 trillion dollars of which 350 billion was TARP, debt when Obama left office was 19.9 trillion, you do the math doing what Obama should have done credited the repayment of TARP against the deficit. Bush had nothing to do with the lost taxpayers, the part time for economic reason jobs Obama created, and the very poor economic policies that led to the worst recovery in U.S. history from a major recession.

You have a nice day

again why is it you take the debt from the day a Dem takes office but take it from the first day of the Fiscal year for the Republicans
AGAIN by the Constitution the incoming President does NOT take over responsibility for the budget / debt till Oct 1 of the year he takes office and on Oct 1 of 2009 it was
11,920,519,164,319.42 and on Oct 2 ( one day more then what Obama was responsible for ) 2017 it was 20,347,802,336,477.80 an increase of 8,427,282,172,158.38 and I will even add in the 256 Billion he added under the 2009 Bush budget for a total of 8 trillion 683 plus Billion NOT the 9.3 trillion you keep saying he raised it
have a nice day

 

[Tbird19482]

So Obama signed what was the Bush budget and thus it is Bush's responsibility for the deficit and had nothing to do with the way the budget spending was done or the Obama economic policies implemented? Liberal logic? So since he only spent 256 by your standards how did he bring us out of Recession? You have a nice day chewing on that one.

read post 990
Have a nice day

 

[Conservative]

again why is it you take the debt from the day a Dem takes office but take it from the first day of the Fiscal year for the Republicans
AGAIN by the Constitution the incoming President does NOT take over responsibility for the budget / debt till Oct 1 of the year he takes office and on Oct 1 of 2009 it was
11,920,519,164,319.42 and on Oct 2 ( one day more then what Obama was responsible for ) 2017 it was 20,347,802,336,477.80 an increase of 8,427,282,172,158.38 and I will even add in the 256 Billion he added under the 2009 Bush budget for a total of 8 trillion 683 plus Billion NOT the 9.3 trillion you keep saying he raised it
have a nice day

You have a wonderful day as will I since I no longer am going to deal with someone who is incapable of understanding data, spending and economic policies

 

[Conservative]

read post 990
Have a nice day

Read Post 998

 

[MTAtech]

Thank you for showing your ignorance of me and what I propose. Where did I say cutting spending on the Recession? NEVER, only that the Obama spending was to bail out Democratic support groups like Teachers and their union as well as auto unions. Nothing was done to promote the private sector and it is the private sector that creates jobs and real economic activity. Your lack of understanding of the private sector, our economy in general is staggering. Tax cuts don't cause deficits, spending does but tax cuts do take away power from the federal bureaucrats which is what truly bothers you

So, auto unions are not the private sector? Who do you think auto workers are employed by? Moreover, it doesn't matter to the grocer whether a teacher, paid by the school district, buys a can of beans or whether an auto worker, paid by an auto manufacturer, buys a can of beans. Spending is spending.

Moreover, while you attack others for not knowing {insert item here} it is you who doesn't know that most of federal spending goes to the private sector. Only 3% of spending is to federal employees. Thus, when government spends money to buy paper for the Mueller report, a paper company; the delivery people; lumberjacks; employees at the mill, etc., earn that money and now have income to spend and further stimulate the economy.