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Mueller and Rosenstein should be investigated for corruption

Donuts for everyone! As usual the left has only mocking and insults. Why haven't you all gotten rid of Trump yet? It's what you want, what's the holdup?

If you make claims and don't back them up with evidence, how can you expect people to believe you? Then you get all indignant and threaten people with your awesome social media skills. Are you really surprised at the mockery?
 
The evidence of corruption is on the Left. All your denials are for naught; they're lies.

Mueller and Rosenstein were also in on the Uranium One deal with the Russians. Andrew Weissman was involved too. The corruption is on the Left, the Obama administration, and the Clinton People. Time will bear it out. This fraud will not stand.



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Before the Obama administration approved a controversial deal in 2010 giving Moscow control of a large swath of American uranium, the FBI had gathered substantial evidence that Russian nuclear industry officials were engaged in bribery, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering designed to grow Vladimir Putin’s atomic energy business inside the United States, according to government documents and interviews.

Federal agents used a confidential U.S. witness working inside the Russian nuclear industry to gather extensive financial records, make secret recordings and intercept emails as early as 2009 that showed Moscow had compromised an American uranium trucking firm with bribes and kickbacks in violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, FBI and court documents show.

They also obtained an eyewitness account — backed by documents — indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow, sources told The Hill.

The racketeering scheme was conducted “with the consent of higher level officials” in Russia who “shared the proceeds” from the kickbacks, one agent declared in an affidavit years later.

Rather than bring immediate charges in 2010, however, the Department of Justice (DOJ) continued investigating the matter for nearly four more years, essentially leaving the American public and Congress in the dark about Russian nuclear corruption on U.S. soil during a period when the Obama administration made two major decisions benefiting Putin’s commercial nuclear ambitions.
http://thehill.com/policy/national-...sian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration

And who was that witness?



Where's YOUR proof Trump did anything wrong? You guys act like the dog ate your homework.
 
As usual, the Left only pretends they're not doing what they are. Facepalm yourself, Cap. You see yourself as a hero??? If you support the Left, you're undermining your own rights and freedoms.

I didn't know there was that much tin foil made to cover all that... good to know... :peace
 
Really the same Robert Mueller who knowingly kept four innocent men in prison to protect the brother of one of Whitey Bulger's buddies. That kind of integrity and honor is what you want?
Mueller, Rosenstein, Weissman. Their shady doings and malicious prosecutions go way back. They're as corrupt as it gets. Ever heard of Mike Nifong? They make him look like a rank amateur.
 
I already have. I elected Trump and WE are coming after your side, big time. You should be scared. Politics is dirty and we're up for this fight. Payback will continue. Your blue wave is toast. I will fight you tooth and nail if that's what it takes. You have no idea what I can do within the system and on social media.
You wanna come for us? Bring it on.

The Republicans have been playing politics with their investigative powers for over a year, playing defense for this thug in the WH. Sooner or later though, the GOP will lose some or all of that investigative power in the Congress, and then it will be our turn to start throwing subpoenas around. We can look into anything we want to, not just collusion with Russia. Your idol won't be protected and we'll go after his financial records, his tax returns, his law suits, business deals, WH abuse, etc. Then bit by bit we will tear this WH to pieces, just like we did to Nixon and his gang.

It's rich to see you have the balls to call the people investigating Trump and his inner circle corrupt, when this WH has had more criminal indictments and proceedings than any before it. To watch you make excuses for these people as they thumb their noses at the law, is nauseating and contemptible. If the same things we're happening to Obama you'd cheer the investigation on all the way -- everybody knows it. So just stop this feigned concern about government corruption and law and order, because 95% of the posters here know you're insincere and know that your only outrage is that your political agenda is under threat.
 
I think that's what the search warrant was for.

And the left here has already appointed itself, judge jury and executioner. All demanding proof from the OP yet providing none.

I will take the unusual step of withholding judgement until the results are in.
 
Ah, the desperation of pathetic people LOL

Start polishing up those rocks
 
Have any proof of that?
Someone obviously had enough evidence to get a search warrant on a high profile lawyer. But, as for what we (we as in the general public) already know, there's a lot there.

He took out a loan to pay off Stormy. Odds are pretty good that he did not tell his banker the money was for a bribe to hush up a porn star. If he lied in writing, that would be bank fraud. I put that one at 99.9999%

Wire fraud follows right behind if he emailed or otherwise made any electronic transfers relating to the bank fraud.

Camp finance is pretty clear cut too--if Cohen gave stormy the money to benefit Trump's campaign, by silencing her, that would be campaign finance fraud.

Trifecta
 
I already have. I elected Trump and WE are coming after your side, big time. You should be scared. Politics is dirty and we're up for this fight. Payback will continue. Your blue wave is toast. I will fight you tooth and nail if that's what it takes. You have no idea what I can do within the system and on social media.

It was a strange but interesting discussion up until now. The side we should be on is the side of the UNITED States of America, not the left side or the right side, blue, red, black, brown or white.
"coming after your side" and other nonsense statements like that are very offensive and unbecoming and why so many on the left think that Trump supporters can't be reasoned with.
Both sides are equally guilty of this type of nonsense, not taking into account that we are one country, one citizenry, and not each others enemy.
 
I don't agree with everything Trinity has written.
Secondly, I am simply saying YOU, the collective, who are cheering on this charade, had better HOPE Cohen is charged with a crime OR it would appear attorney/client privilege was ignored.

Actually since Trump denies any knowledge of the pay off and the lawyer sticks to his story of never telling Trump he paid off the porn star it is in doubt there is any attorney client privilege. So if Cohen engaged in bank fraud or illegal money transfers then the door is open for serious charges. If there exists documents that show Trump knew/approved/funded the pay-off then serious charges can be brought against him.

THIS maybe why after months of rousing Trump is threatening firing and Nutty Nunny threatening impeachment (which he has no power to invoke) The curtain could be down... :peace
 
Someone obviously had enough evidence to get a search warrant on a high profile lawyer. But, as for what we (we as in the general public) already know, there's a lot there.

He took out a loan to pay off Stormy. Odds are pretty good that he did not tell his banker the money was for a bribe to hush up a porn star. If he lied in writing, that would be bank fraud. I put that one at 99.9999%

Wire fraud follows right behind if he emailed or otherwise made any electronic transfers relating to the bank fraud.

Camp finance is pretty clear cut too--if Cohen gave stormy the money to benefit Trump's campaign, by silencing her, that would be campaign finance fraud.

Trifecta

A NDA is not a "bribe" but a legally binding contract.

As for the bank and wire fraud, we shall see.

As for the last sentence, it would have to be proven it effected the election, no?
 
It's that, we don't NEED anything. The facts are in place. The light on Trump is getting brighter and brighter each day. The drain's vortex spiral is in full rotation. FLUSH time!

IF the facts are all in place, shouldn't the investigation be over?
Carry on with your delusions of grandeur.
 
And the left here has already appointed itself, judge jury and executioner. All demanding proof from the OP yet providing none.

I will take the unusual step of withholding judgement until the results are in.

No, the left hasn't done that. What a silly thing to try and pass off as reality.

This is really hard for some people.
 
The evidence of corruption is on the Left. All your denials are for naught; they're lies.

Mueller and Rosenstein were also in on the Uranium One deal with the Russians. Andrew Weissman was involved too. The corruption is on the Left, the Obama administration, and the Clinton People. Time will bear it out. This fraud will not stand.



MORE:

Before the Obama administration approved a controversial deal in 2010 giving Moscow control of a large swath of American uranium, the FBI had gathered substantial evidence that Russian nuclear industry officials were engaged in bribery, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering designed to grow Vladimir Putin’s atomic energy business inside the United States, according to government documents and interviews.

Federal agents used a confidential U.S. witness working inside the Russian nuclear industry to gather extensive financial records, make secret recordings and intercept emails as early as 2009 that showed Moscow had compromised an American uranium trucking firm with bribes and kickbacks in violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, FBI and court documents show.

They also obtained an eyewitness account — backed by documents — indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton’s charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow, sources told The Hill.

The racketeering scheme was conducted “with the consent of higher level officials” in Russia who “shared the proceeds” from the kickbacks, one agent declared in an affidavit years later.

Rather than bring immediate charges in 2010, however, the Department of Justice (DOJ) continued investigating the matter for nearly four more years, essentially leaving the American public and Congress in the dark about Russian nuclear corruption on U.S. soil during a period when the Obama administration made two major decisions benefiting Putin’s commercial nuclear ambitions.
http://thehill.com/policy/national-...sian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration

And who was that witness?



Where's YOUR proof Trump did anything wrong? You guys act like the dog ate your homework.


Why are you still running in fear of your OP? Odd that you can't back up a single of your claims, and yet here you are, trying to distract from that fact with irrelevancies.
 
Someone obviously had enough evidence to get a search warrant on a high profile lawyer. But, as for what we (we as in the general public) already know, there's a lot there.

He took out a loan to pay off Stormy. Odds are pretty good that he did not tell his banker the money was for a bribe to hush up a porn star. If he lied in writing, that would be bank fraud. I put that one at 99.9999%

Wire fraud follows right behind if he emailed or otherwise made any electronic transfers relating to the bank fraud.

Camp finance is pretty clear cut too--if Cohen gave stormy the money to benefit Trump's campaign, by silencing her, that would be campaign finance fraud.

Trifecta

Unless you have the exact date Cohen received funds for his Heloc loan and have proof that he took out the loan to pay off Stormy, the above is noise.
 
Unless you have the exact date Cohen received funds for his Heloc loan and have proof that he took out the loan to pay off Stormy, the above is noise.

lol....oh, I'm sure they knew exactly what they were looking for when they searched his home and other locations. But, do continue, Trix. It's fun watching you squirm.
 
And the left here has already appointed itself, judge jury and executioner. All demanding proof from the OP yet providing none.

I will take the unusual step of withholding judgement until the results are in.

The OP was the one rattling on about the raid being a crime with no evidence of such, and continues forth with the deep state conspiracy accusations. It would seem that procedure was followed in obtaining the warrant. We certainly shall see if anything comes out of the search or not, but it doesn't seem that there was anything illegal in obtaining the warrant. I suppose we'll see about that too, perhaps in the future there will be proof to back up the accusations. But as of now, it's just partisan whining.
 
All demanding proof from the OP yet providing none.
You do not understand burden of proof yet?

I will take the unusual step of withholding judgement until the results are in.
What does "results are in" even mean? That's absurd.
What if we dispute these "results that come in"? You'd have to withhold judgement on that too because the *final* results are not actually in yet.

"I am withholding judgement until the results are in"
"The results are in but are disputed, I have to withhold judgement until those results are in".
"The results are in but are disputed, I have to withhold judgement until those results are in".
"The results are in but are disputed, I have to withhold judgement until those results are in".
...
Your phony reasoning leads to an infinite loop of absurdity. I suggest you find a better framework for differentiating true from false, yours is not working.
 
lol....oh, I'm sure they knew exactly what they were looking for when they searched his home and other locations. But, do continue, Trix. It's fun watching you squirm.

Sadly, you are the one squirming because you are so sure that Cohen committed crimes, but when I ask you how you KNOW, you turn it on me.
You must think I was born yesterday. I've been arguing on political forums for 10 years. I know how partisans like you behave on forums. You shoot crap at the wall and hope it sticks.
And your crap didn't stick.
 
No, the left hasn't done that. What a silly thing to try and pass off as reality.

This is really hard for some people.

Um, you must skip calamity's nuggets then....
If so, I can't blame you.
 
Sadly, you are the one squirming because you are so sure that Cohen committed crimes, but when I ask you how you KNOW, you turn it on me.
You must think I was born yesterday. I've been arguing on political forums for 10 years. I know how partisans like you behave on forums. You shoot crap at the wall and hope it sticks.
And your crap didn't stick.
well, you must be a slow learner because even after 10 years you are still not very good at this.

The search warrants were approved by Trump's Justice department and signed off on by a federal judge. Clearly, they had plenty of probable cause to get that done. And, that media you like to diminish in your mind has reliable sources within several camps who confirmed exactly what the FBI was looking for in the search.

Now, you can deny all that--which I imagine is the summation of your 10 years of experience--but it won't make it go away. :)
 
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