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Mom Sends Her ‘Gendered’ Son, 3, to Ballet Class to Make Him More ‘Girlish’

We get it, you're a Republican with outdated gender roles. People used to think that being Secretary of State was "manly." Tell that to Condi Rice.

I haven't been registered republican since I was eighteen. Also, you should review some surveys of eighteen year olds sometime. Apparently, some of my outdated views are coming back. :lol: For example, sixty percent of eighteen year old's prefer traditional roles in relationships. It would seem all those years in daycare has made them want something else for their kids. Of course, at this point they can't have anything else due to certain economic realities.
 
Would u sign your girl up for boxing just to make her more mannish?
No, but I wouldn't do that to my sons either.

However, if I felt my daughter was getting too caught up in the whole "I'm a princess" theme I may very likely take her camping and teach her how to shoot a sling shot. Doesn't mean she can't do the princess thing, but I would want to show her she can have fun doing things that aren't traditionally "girly".
Meh.

My son's private prep all boys high school is one of only two left in the city with an active boxing program. He went a couple rounds in the ring against the other school, and was none the worse for the wear. I didn't force him, but I encouraged him to give it a try - while a freshmen - before the boys get old enough to hit hard. My Pops, an uncle, and several close neighbor dads fought in the Golden Glove tourneys in my old neighborhood when I was growing up.

As kids we used to spar through the park district and in the private gyms with some of the Golden Glove guys, and friends of mine fought in the program. There's worse things for a young man.
 
Meh.

My son's private prep all boys high school is one of only two left in the city with an active boxing program. He went a couple rounds in the ring against the other school, and was none the worse for the wear. I didn't force him, but I encouraged him to give it a try - while a freshmen - before the boys get old enough to hit hard. My Pops, an uncle, and several close neighbor dads fought in the Golden Glove tourneys in my old neighborhood when I was growing up.

As kids we used to spar through the park district and in the private gyms with some of the Golden Glove guys, and friends of mine fought in the program. There's worse things for a young man.

It is only the forcing part I take exception to.
 
From the link:

But this isn’t even McLaren’s craziest column. In March she published a piece about the joys of breastfeeding another person’s child. Apparently at a Toronto party years ago, she snuck away into a room where a baby of a Canadian Member of Parliament was lying alone in a car seat. She made the baby suck on her tit even though she was neither lactating or pregnant. The father of the baby even walked in on her at the end.

Say wha......

ok I can't not look up that column....
https://web.archive.org/web/20170326224152/https://www.mbnews.one/ca_news_158305.htm
was about 25 and did not have a baby – or even a boyfriend – at the time.

And I was broody in the way that young women in their late 20s often are, before they realize that turning 30 is just the beginning of something rather than a vertiginous cliff off of which unlucky young women fall to die alone and be forgotten.

I was feeling a bit glum and distracted, so I’d wandered upstairs in search of a bathroom in which to reapply my lipstick and check my phone for random texts from inappropriate men (this was before Tinder). I walked into a bedroom with coats piled high on the bed and noticed that in the corner, sitting wide awake in a little portable car seat, was the cutest baby I’d ever seen. On the table beside him was a monitor. I smiled at the baby, the baby smiled back. Now this was a connection.

I leaned over and gingerly picked him up and then sat down in a chair to give him a cuddle. He felt gorgeous in my arms, all warm and lumpy and milky-smelling in the way small babies are. Somehow, my pinky finger ended up in his mouth and I was astonished at strength of his sucking reflex. “C’mon lady,” said his eyes. And I suddenly knew what he wanted. And I of course wanted to give him what he wanted. The only problem was, I had no milk. But would it be so bad, I wondered, if I just tried it out – just for a minute – just to see what it felt like?

I looked at the baby monitor as if it might be watching me, but thankfully this was before monitors had cameras.

Then slowly, carefully so as not to jostle the infant, I began to unbutton my blouse. Just as I was reaching into my bra, a shortish man with in a navy suit walked into the room.

“Oh um, hello!” he said, in a friendly, upbeat tone that could not entirely conceal the fact that he was flummoxed to see me sitting there with my top half unbuttoned holding his baby.

“I see you’ve met my son. May I take him now?”

I'm sure any child of hers is living in a suitable home.....
 
I haven't been registered republican since I was eighteen. Also, you should review some surveys of eighteen year olds sometime. Apparently, some of my outdated views are coming back. :lol: For example, sixty percent of eighteen year old's prefer traditional roles in relationships. It would seem all those years in daycare has made them want something else for their kids. Of course, at this point they can't have anything else due to certain economic realities.

You're not a Republican, you just never disagree with them. Ok. You hate transgender and everything that doesn't agree with your narrow worldview. Sounds like a Republican to me.

Traditional roles have nothing to do with men doing ballet. Since the dawn of that art form, men have been involved.
 
No, it's both. Girly things can require athleticism, you know.

Men have done ballet since there was such a thing as ballet. They have danced since the beginning of humanity.

Did you ever go to a high school dance? Are all those boys "girly" for dancing?
 
Men have done ballet since there was such a thing as ballet. They have danced since the beginning of humanity.

Did you ever go to a high school dance? Are all those boys "girly" for dancing?

I JUST said that men dance ballet too. YOU were the one who said "there's nothing girly about ballet".

And guys aren't dancing ballet at high school dances.
 
It's not girly at all. It's very athletic actually.

You're getting into everyone's face about having "outdated gender roles," but your argument that it's not "girly" is that it's "very athletic"?

Just to clear, to you, to be "girly" means you can't be athletic.
 
You're getting into everyone's face about having "outdated gender roles," but your argument that it's not "girly" is that it's "very athletic"?

Just to clear, to you, to be "girly" means you can't be athletic.

Yes that's true. It wasn't my intent to say that.

I still don't think ballet is girly. Care to refute that, or did you just see it was me and had to be contrary?
 
I JUST said that men dance ballet too. YOU were the one who said "there's nothing girly about ballet".

And guys aren't dancing ballet at high school dances.

So it's just one form of dancing that you think is girly?
 
Yes that's true. It wasn't my intent to say that.

I still don't think ballet is girly. Care to refute that, or did you just see it was me and had to be contrary?

Doesn't matter what I think. That boy's mother thinks it's girly.
 
You're not a Republican, you just never disagree with them. Ok. You hate transgender and everything that doesn't agree with your narrow worldview. Sounds like a Republican to me.

Traditional roles have nothing to do with men doing ballet. Since the dawn of that art form, men have been involved.

I don't hate transgenders. I hate the treatment and I don't much care for the attitude or behavior of people that get it, but I don't hate transgenders. Transgenders suffer from a legitimate issue that I have no reason to hold against anyone.

Also, traditional roles has everything to do with the ballet discussion.
 
Gender roles don't need to be enforced. People can decide about how to live their own lives.

And then you get the situation where we are in now where people desire direction and don't have it.
 
So it's just one form of dancing that you think is girly?

Again, let's refresh. You said that there's nothing girly about ballet. That is what I'm arguing against.
 
Football is more child abuse than ballet. Destroy your kids body before they understand the risks, and the incredible (ultimately) lack of reward for 99.99% of players. A few busted knees, shoulders, and a concussion or two, all just make 'em tougher right? All because you loved Friday Night Lights.
(Neither are actually child abuse but tackle football is far less responsible parenting IMO, if you're forced to rate it)

Nothing wrong with ballet for anyone. Plenty of hardcore men that are incredible dancers, including ballet.

Just so you know, you're around incredible dancing women, in skin tight clothing, holding them all the time, as you basically "work out" round the clock to tone and build strength (Throws, leaps, etc.), and proudly display your bulging crotch to slightly prudish but appreciative audience.

The thing is, ballet is a physical art. Your body look and your technique are on visual display. It's like body building, but looks beautiful rather than like you're constipated, and where you don't need to do steroids 24/7 to compete. On that note, Arnold Schwarzenegger took ballet to help him with bodybuilding, and it also helped him later with acting.

Christian Bale was a dancer early on. His first cool role in Equilibrium where he did the gun/pistol work, according to Bale the scene withe motorcycle helmet beat-down was able to be done in one glorious (for its time) take, in part because of his dance training (remembering numerous physical poses and sequence and executing them in a natural looking manner).

Christopher Walken was a ballet dancer.

Ballet dancers are ripped, can dance, get great cardio, and stay flexible. You could hardly do better for your kid in making them a more attractive to (any sex) man.
 
Again, let's refresh. You said that there's nothing girly about ballet. That is what I'm arguing against.

You're arguing that ballet is girly. But apparently, other forms of dancing are not. Which art forms do you consider girly?
 
And then you get the situation where we are in now where people desire direction and don't have it.

Direction and gender roles are not the same thing.

Even so, there is nothing that says that you can't dance ballet if you are a man. Many men are fine ballet dancers. It's been that way for centuries. That's not a gender role traditional or otherwise. It's just that in your opinion, ballet is girly.
 
You're arguing that ballet is girly. But apparently, other forms of dancing are not. Which art forms do you consider girly?

I'm arguing that there's definitely SOMETHING girly about ballet. You said there was NOTHING girly about ballet.

Tights, tutus, delicate, flowing movements -- yeah, nothing girly about that.
 
This gender **** has really gone off the rails, off into left field.
 
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