Minority Leader Schumer Knowingly Lies About Trump/Russia

[Mach]

I give up. You guys keep going on about Trump lying, etc. I'm concerned about the bias in the media right now. And since you haven't heard it on your favorite news show, it's not true. Which is exactly my point, that people don't hear everything because the media is biased. Period.

Just post the specific quote you believe was a lie!

The quote from your partisan link, was 100% true, it wasn't a lie. So your partisan source was apparently, lying! Why give up, you should really ferret out who is in the right and wrong here, so you can be more critical of such lying sources! Otherwise, we're left with both you, and the source you posted, as lying partisans.
He may have made a claim that "Trump was under investigation directly". You just need to post it for credit.

 

[holbritter]

Just post the specific quote you believe was a lie!

The quote from your partisan link, was 100% true, it wasn't a lie. So your partisan source was apparently, lying! Why give up, you should really ferret out who is in the right and wrong here, so you can be more critical of such lying sources! Otherwise, we're left with both you, and the source you posted, as lying partisans.
He may have made a claim that "Trump was under investigation directly". You just need to post it for credit.

I posted this in post #42, but maybe you missed it.

“You can bet that if the shoe was on the other foot ― and a Democratic president was under investigation by the FBI ― that Republicans would be howling at the moon about filling a Supreme Court seat in such circumstances,” Schumer added. “After all, they stopped a president who wasn’t under investigation from filling a seat with nearly a year left in his presidency.”

Chuck Schumer: Senate Shouldn't Vote On Neil Gorsuch While FBI Investigates Trump | HuffPost

 

[trouble13]

That is beyond ridiculous and merely right wing hysteria brought on by hyperbolic partisanship since the Constitution allows no such thing and we all know it.

What does the constitution not allow?

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[holbritter]

Just post the specific quote you believe was a lie!

The quote from your partisan link, was 100% true, it wasn't a lie. So your partisan source was apparently, lying! Why give up, you should really ferret out who is in the right and wrong here, so you can be more critical of such lying sources! Otherwise, we're left with both you, and the source you posted, as lying partisans.
He may have made a claim that "Trump was under investigation directly". You just need to post it for credit.

Well? I posted it. No one wants to respond now?

 

[holbritter]

Exactly. Some folks don't quite seem to understand how assertion and verification works.

Hey, did you check out the quote I posted?

 

[Mach]

Well? I posted it. No one wants to respond now?

lol. yes you get props for respond and citing it.
I still can't get worked up about it though, it seems like a non-issue, grasping. So his administration has been investigated off and on, and at any point he may have been under investigation now or in the future.

Trump lies far worse than this basically every day, about more important things, I really can't believe you'd be outraged at this, and not the 1001 lies Trump tells every day. Since this isn't what you wanted to hear, I figured I'd move elsewhere...but you requested

 

[holbritter]

lol. yes you get props for respond and citing it.
I still can't get worked up about it though, it seems like a non-issue, grasping. So his administration has been investigated off and on, and at any point he may have been under investigation now or in the future.

Trump lies far worse than this basically every day, about more important things, I really can't believe you'd be outraged at this, and not the 1001 lies Trump tells every day. Since this isn't what you wanted to hear, I figured I'd move elsewhere...but you requested

I do get outraged at his lies as well. I'm an equal opportunity outrager! Thanks for the reply

 

[haymarket]

LOL

I don't doubt most people on the far left call it reality...

take a survey and get back to me on that.

 

[haymarket]

Perhaps a re-reading and viewing is in order for you.






No, I believe the quotes offered are sufficient to substantiate the claim that Schumer was lying. Objective and reasonable people will easily arrive at that conclusion.

Neither you nor anyone else has provided the Schumer quote that was challenged in the first place.

Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
You are pretty good at mental gymnastics and contortions. But the fact is, Schumer said "President Donald Trump" is under investigation for colluding with the Russians.

 

[American]

Where's the MSM's outrage on this? Why wasn't/isn't a constant leading story on the news? I do not and will not trust the media to tell us everything, without bias, regardless of network.

Oh, and Schumer should be ousted for his part.


Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-IA) has blasted Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) for knowingly lying about Trump being under investigation for ties to Russia.


Grassley, in a statement delivered to the Senate Floor, stated that way back in March, then-FBI Director James Comey told him and seven other Senate and House members, including Schumer, that President Donald Trump was not under investigation.

Schumer, however, continued to lie to the media, telling them the President was under investigation.

“That helped feed the media hysteria,” said Grassley.

“The Minority Leader even tried to say that the Senate shouldn’t vote on the Supreme Court nomination because the president was under investigation. And the whole time, he knew it wasn’t true.”

As an example, Schumer told reporters on March 21, “there is a cloud now hanging over the head of the president, and while that’s happening, to have a lifetime appointment made by this president seems very unseemly and there ought to be a delay.” Media hysteria ensued.

“Countless media articles falsely claimed the president was under investigation for colluding with Russia,” Grassley said in his statement.

“Over and over again, the media published selective leaks. They published classified half-truths. All this was used to make false allegations of sinister conduct by the president. And a lot of people believed it.”

“After a year of the entire might of the U.S. intelligence community and the FBI looking for evidence of collusion with the Russians, where is it?” he asked.

“Unfortunately, now it looks like Mr. Comey and the media might be doing the same thing to Attorney General Sessions.”

“Here we go again. The rumor mill is back in business. It’s insinuating improper ties with Russians and undermining people’s faith in another senior government official,” said Grassley on the current media hysteria over Jeff Sessions due to Comey suggesting that the FBI knew something about the Attorney General that they couldn’t disclose publically.

https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/2017/06/chuck-schumer-trump-russia-lie/

Politicians from NY these days appear to be mostly liars. Schumer is just a weasely schmuck of the usual sort you see from up there.

 

[haymarket]

Perhaps you should re-read the thing, or maybe your vision needs a check.






I believe it's clear that Schumer lied as the video shows, so it's not necessary to clear things up... Say Hay, you weren't a tap dancer at some point in your life, or maybe in a previous incarnation, were you?

Where in this link is the Schumer quote that was presented here and is being challenged?

Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
You are pretty good at mental gymnastics and contortions. But the fact is, Schumer said "President Donald Trump" is under investigation for colluding with the Russians.

Produce it.

 

[haymarket]

An anonymous source in the FBI has told me that James Comey is conspiring with Mueller to sabotage the Trump campaign.

And Watergate is very different than the shoddy journalism of today. Maybe you should follow your own quote more carefully.

Problem for is that you have no credibility or experience at reporting these things.

 

[haymarket]

What does the constitution not allow?

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what this poster claimed

Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
Liberals find nothing wrong with repeating a little white lie or telling a big black whopper if it furthers the cause.

Today the liberal cause is to bring down President Trump and his Presidency, which will then somehow overturn the election and Hillary will be President by default.

 

[trouble13]

what this poster claimed

OK TY for the clarification.

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[reinoe]

Problem for is that you have no credibility or experience at reporting these things.

I do, however CNN does not.

 

[haymarket]

I do, however CNN does not.

Perhaps you can put up your awards in broadcasting the news next to the record of CNN and we can make that judgment?

 

[humbolt]

Neither you nor anyone else has provided the Schumer quote that was challenged in the first place.

Schumer lied about Trump being under investigation. Trump was not and is not under investigation. There are ample quotes of Schumer lying. If you choose not to read them or acknowledge them, it's inconsequential. The fact remains that Schumer knowingly lied and it's even on a video for anyone to observe who cares to look.

 

[humbolt]

Where in this link is the Schumer quote that was presented here and is being challenged?



Produce it.

I, and others here, already have.

 

[haymarket]

Schumer lied about Trump being under investigation. Trump was not and is not under investigation. There are ample quotes of Schumer lying. If you choose not to read them or acknowledge them, it's inconsequential. The fact remains that Schumer knowingly lied and it's even on a video for anyone to observe who cares to look.

"Trump" is and can be many things.

Trump is the man.

Trump is the campaign for office.

Trump is the organization behind the campaign for office.

Trump is the business empire.

Trump is the television and media personality.

Trump is the administration which holds the White House and Executive Branch of government.

And beyond that, Trump is a larger than life mythic figure incorporating all those things plus a healthy dose of legend and a blend of fact and fiction creating a brand symbolizing different things to different people.

When one says that Trump is under investigation, we all know that the Trump campaign and the apparatus of that campaign was indeed being looked at in the investigations. We also know that parts of his finances, particularly his ties to Russia, were also the object of much speculation and discussion and could well have been part of the inquiry.

Trump the human being did not necessarily have to be the specific target of any investigation for Schumer to be accurate that "Trump is under investimation" since TRUMP is all of those things I listed above.

We know that Donald Trump the person was obsessed with proving that he was not under investigation and Comey told him as much. And Trump took that as a great victory and some sort of stamp equal to that of innocence or virginity.

And that was stupid of him to do so since we all know that ones status in those areas can change on a dime. One can NOT be the subject of an investigation one day and find themselves the object of an investigation on the next day. That is how investigations work and that is there normal course of such events.

So this entire idea that Schumer lied and must be punished is stupid and inane and merely another right wing invented scandal to strike at one of their more vocal enemies.

 

[haymarket]

I, and others here, already have.

in which post was this quoted and verified?

Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
You are pretty good at mental gymnastics and contortions. But the fact is, Schumer said "President Donald Trump" is under investigation for colluding with the Russians.

 

[humbolt]

"Trump" is and can be many things.

Trump is the man.

Trump is the campaign for office.

Trump is the organization behind the campaign for office.

Trump is the business empire.

Trump is the television and media personality.

Trump is the administration which holds the White House and Executive Branch of government.

And beyond that, Trump is a larger than life mythic figure incorporating all those things plus a healthy dose of legend and a blend of fact and fiction creating a brand symbolizing different things to different people.

When one says that Trump is under investigation, we all know that the Trump campaign and the apparatus of that campaign was indeed being looked at in the investigations. We also know that parts of his finances, particularly his ties to Russia, were also the object of much speculation and discussion and could well have been part of the inquiry.

Trump the human being did not necessarily have to be the specific target of any investigation for Schumer to be accurate that "Trump is under investimation" since TRUMP is all of those things I listed above.

We know that Donald Trump the person was obsessed with proving that he was not under investigation and Comey told him as much. And Trump took that as a great victory and some sort of stamp equal to that of innocence or virginity.

And that was stupid of him to do so since we all know that ones status in those areas can change on a dime. One can NOT be the subject of an investigation one day and find themselves the object of an investigation on the next day. That is how investigations work and that is there normal course of such events.

So this entire idea that Schumer lied and must be punished is stupid and inane and merely another right wing invented scandal to strike at one of their more vocal enemies.

I simply stated that Schumer knowing lied, and it's clear he did. If it's not clear to you, that's your problem, not mine.

 

[humbolt]

in which post was this quoted and verified?

I'm certain mine verified it, and I'm certain others verified it. I'm not interested in parsing and dissecting the obvious. If you're interested in disputing the accuracy of the statement, "the sun came up this morning", you can. Honestly, I'm more interested in getting on with the day than discussing what that might mean, the accuracy of the statement, or any implications beyond simply getting busy with things better done during daylight.

 

[haymarket]

I simply stated that Schumer knowing lied, and it's clear he did. If it's not clear to you, that's your problem, not mine.

Lied concerning what? Produce it. That is your problem. Lets see if you can rise to meet it head on.

 

[haymarket]

I'm certain mine verified it, and I'm certain others verified it. I'm not interested in parsing and dissecting the obvious. If you're interested in disputing the accuracy of the statement, "the sun came up this morning", you can. Honestly, I'm more interested in getting on with the day than discussing what that might mean, the accuracy of the statement, or any implications beyond simply getting busy with things better done during daylight.

No - it was not. But prove me wrong by simply naming the post.

 

[humbolt]

No - it was not. But prove me wrong by simply naming the post.

See #98.