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Meadows calls on Rosenstein to resign 'immediately'

Hard to believe the Mueller report will come back with nothing, considering they've already indicted (and agreed to plea deals with) multiple people associated with the Trump campaign and have referred cases to other law enforcement agencies who have also already indicted multiple people.

Yet none of the charges against them have anything to do with either russian meddling or obstruction charges.
they are all mutually exclusive crimes to those things. most of which happened before the campaign even started.
The lying to the FBI charges are nothing and seem to be charged based on the political whims of who the person is.

I know Trump supporters love to live in a fantasy world of their own creation, but to argue the Mueller report will come back with nothing, when we already know for a fact the Mueller team has already provided many somethings, is just a whole other level of delusion.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/19/mueller-investigation-findings-914754

there is 0 evidence that trump has done any of the things that he has been accused of. the people deluding themselves are liberals and anti-trumpers.

Rosenstein will be gone, but only because Trump is corrupt to his very core. Trump is easily the most corrupt President we've had in modern history.
No he will be gone because if he knew there was nothing in the investigation then he should have stopped it and didn't.
He will be gone because if what he said in that recording was real he has at max committed sedition against the president and the government.

yet there nothing that says he has broke any law. You can only say this if you ignore all the bull**** that obama has done.
both men were corrupt as hell, but didn't actually break any laws.
 
Oh we see that you're now RUNNING FROM YOUR PREVIOUS PROVEN LIE, that there have been CONVICTIONS FOR RUSSIAN COLLUSION.
Uh, no. You're making things up now. You asked for them and I provided them. Why do you continue to post things which are obviously not true?

Do I need to copy and paste it here...or are you going to suddenly start posting honestly?
I'm really starting to think you're just a bot. Let's try it out.

You didn't answer anything I said, just regurgitated propaganda very similar to what the Russian troll farms have been caught pushing.

Are you a bot? Like, will you give me the same answers if I keep asking the same questions?
 
Yet none of the charges against them have anything to do with either russian meddling
This is unequivocally false. Why would you post something which is untrue?

Not only did Mueller's team bring two different instances of charges against Russians who actively interfered in our election on Trump's behalf, which automatically renders your statement false, Papadapolous pleaded guilty to lying to Mueller's team ABOUT his collusion. He claimed he met Mifsud before joining Trump's team when in reality he colluded with the Russian agent after joining Trump's team. Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to Mueller's team about discussing sanctions (which is most definitely colluding) with Russia in December 2016.

So your statement is absolutely false in every single way. Are you just ignorant to the facts or are you lying about them? Please let me know.

The lying to the FBI charges are nothing
This is just a lie. The lying to the FBI charges are DIRECTLY related to collusion, based on what they lied about. Why are you telling obvious falsehoods? Do you really not know what you're talking about?

there is 0 evidence that trump has done any of the things that he has been accused of.
:lol:

Again, Trump supporters clearly live in an alternate reality. We know for a fact Russia aided Trump against Clinton. We know for a fact Trump Jr., Manafort and Kushner sat with agents of the Russian government in order to get dirt on Clinton, dirt which somehow magically went live the day the meeting was scheduled. We know that Trump asked Russia to get Clinton emails and Russian agents started attacking Clinton servers almost immediately.

The claim there is "0 evidence" is a lie, just like the rest of your post.

No he will be gone because if he knew there was nothing in the investigation then he should have stopped it and didn't.
THE MUELLER TEAM HAS ALREADY BROUGHT NUMEROUS CHARGES RELATED TO RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE!!!

Maybe if I post in all caps you'll stop posting incredibly stupid and obvious lies.

He will be gone because if what he said in that recording was real he has at max committed sedition against the president and the government.
Amazing how you will believe completely anonymous, unverified and rebutted reports but refuse to so much as consider actual criminal indictments.

This post is one of the most dishonest I've seen in a while.

You can only say this if you ignore all the bull**** that obama has done.
Again, Trump supporters seem to live in their own alternate reality.
 
Uh, no. You're making things up now. You asked for them and I provided them. Why do you continue to post things which are obviously not true?

I'm really starting to think you're just a bot. Let's try it out.

You didn't answer anything I said, just regurgitated propaganda very similar to what the Russian troll farms have been caught pushing.

Are you a bot? Like, will you give me the same answers if I keep asking the same questions?

There is NOT ONE FOR RUSSIAN COLLUSION...can't read or is it cannot understand what that means ?

Russians buying $45,000 of FB ads =/= "RUSSIAN COLLUSION", neither do FINANCIAL/TAX OFFENSES from YEARS AGO, which have nothing to do with the Trump Campaign.


PLEASE DIRECTLY QUOTE what "COLLUSION" indictments/convictions the Grand Buffon has racked up or give us the POST # where this allegedly happened.
 
There is NOT ONE FOR RUSSIAN COLLUSION...can't read or is it cannot understand what that means ?

Russians buying $45,000 of FB ads =/= "RUSSIAN COLLUSION", neither do FINANCIAL/TAX OFFENSES from YEARS AGO, which have nothing to do with the Trump Campaign.


PLEASE DIRECTLY QUOTE what "COLLUSION" indictments/convictions the Grand Buffon has racked up or give us the POST # where this allegedly happened.
:lol:

You do just repost the same things like a bot! That's hilarious.

I already provided you the indictments/convictions for collusion. The fact you keep asking for what I have already given you only reinforces my bot theory.
 
:lol:

You do just repost the same things like a bot! That's hilarious.

I already provided you the indictments/convictions for collusion. The fact you keep asking for what I have already given you only reinforces my bot theory.

Sure you did...in Fantasy Land.

Then you should have no trouble providing them here, should you, as they are NOWHERE ON THIS THREAD, outside of your imagination.
 
This is unequivocally false. Why would you post something which is untrue?

Not only did Mueller's team bring two different instances of charges against Russians who actively interfered in our election on Trump's behalf, which automatically renders your statement false, Papadapolous pleaded guilty to lying to Mueller's team ABOUT his collusion. He claimed he met Mifsud before joining Trump's team when in reality he colluded with the Russian agent after joining Trump's team. Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to Mueller's team about discussing sanctions (which is most definitely colluding) with Russia in December 2016.

That doesn't prove my statement untrue. I means that russian interfered not that trump conspired with them.
So far no one in trumps campaign has been charged with conspiracy or anything else.
No Papadapolous lied about meeting with someone from Russia and not telling the FBI.

So your statement is absolutely false in every single way. Are you just ignorant to the facts or are you lying about them? Please let me know.

Why do you have to make stuff up that didn't occur? So you seem to be the one ignorant.

This is just a lie. The lying to the FBI charges are DIRECTLY related to collusion, based on what they lied about. Why are you telling obvious falsehoods? Do you really not know what you're talking about?

No they lied about meeting with Russian diplomats or having contact with russian people and not telling the FBI about those meetings.
they were not related to collusion which is not a crime by the way.

What you are looking for is conspiracy. yet there is no evidence that there was a conspiracy.
You don't even know what you are talking about in this matter. So it is impossible for you to even discuss it.

Again, Trump supporters clearly live in an alternate reality. We know for a fact Russia aided Trump against Clinton. We know for a fact Trump Jr., Manafort and Kushner sat with agents of the Russian government in order to get dirt on Clinton, dirt which somehow magically went live the day the meeting was scheduled. We know that Trump asked Russia to get Clinton emails and Russian agents started attacking Clinton servers almost immediately.

yes you do live in an alternate reality it is the side effects of TDS.
We know for a fact that Russia attempted to aide clinton against trump, or do you just ignore the whole Steele document.
Anyway them trying to aide trump is by no means a conspiracy that trump was directly working with them to do it.
We know that the Ukranian government was working with clinton staff to do the same thing. We also know that the clinton staff
was involved with russian operatives attempting to get dirt on Trump.

So you can't have it both ways fox.

The claim there is "0 evidence" is a lie, just like the rest of your post.

THE MUELLER TEAM HAS ALREADY BROUGHT NUMEROUS CHARGES RELATED TO RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE!!!
None of which involve the trump campaign.

Maybe if I post in all caps you'll stop posting incredibly stupid and obvious lies.

No it just means we can see that you don't know what you are talking about more clearly.

Amazing how you will believe completely anonymous, unverified and rebutted reports but refuse to so much as consider actual criminal indictments.

Yes that is all you guys have done since 2016 is believe anonymous, unverified, reports.

This post is one of the most dishonest I've seen in a while.
Again, Trump supporters seem to live in their own alternate reality.

You don't seem to read your own posts very well because that is pretty much all you have.

So please tell us what Trump campaign person has been actually indicted over conspiracy.
I will be waiting. since none of them have i will be waiting a long time.
 
:lol:

You do just repost the same things like a bot! That's hilarious.

I already provided you the indictments/convictions for collusion. The fact you keep asking for what I have already given you only reinforces my bot theory.

no you haven't because collusion is not a crime in this case.
collusion is only a crime in anti-trust laws.

you don't know what you are talking about and are just throwing out buzz words.
 
It should never come down to one unelected guy like this to decide, surely everyone understands this much.

So many of these people that we got told are "Awesome, the best we have!" have turned out to be crap.

What does unelected have to do with the law or crappy people for that matter?
 
Does anyone actually believe that Congress is doing any oversight? LOL

The Republican Congress is busy covering up crimes. Arguably, the worst congress is modern American history.
 
no you haven't because collusion is not a crime in this case.
collusion is only a crime in anti-trust laws.

you don't know what you are talking about and are just throwing out buzz words.

Conspiracy to defraud is a crime. Colluding to commit a crime is called a conspiracy.
 
Conspiracy to defraud is a crime. Colluding to commit a crime is called a conspiracy.
no it is called conspiracy.

collusion is a crime in anti-trust laws.
that is it. these are legal terms and they have separate meanings.
 
no it is called conspiracy.

collusion is a crime in anti-trust laws.
that is it. these are legal terms and they have separate meanings.

LOL Did you know that larceny is not a crime. The term is not mentioned in criminal statutes. So if one commits bank larceny is he breaking the law?
 
I was wrong I should have used "heist" as the example, sorry. Heist is the example which is not mentioned in statutes. So does that mean that a bank heist is not a crime?

Why can't you just admit you were wrong.
it really is that simple.
 
That doesn't prove my statement untrue.
Yes, it actually does. It proves charges against them are related to Russian meddling, particularly the indictments against the Russians who meddled.

If you're going to post an obvious lie right out of the gate, then clearly you're not worth my time. Except for this little gem:

No they lied about meeting with Russian diplomats or having contact with russian people and not telling the FBI about those meetings.
they were not related to collusion which is not a crime by the way.
So they lied about colluding with Russia and were convicted for it, but that has nothing to do with collusion with Russia, so obviously Mueller's team won't have anything. :lol:

The sheer idiocy coming from Trump supporters anymore is overwhelming.
Why can't you just admit you were wrong.
This coming from the person who said people convicted for lying about their collusion with Russia had nothing to do with collusion with Russia breaks every irony meter I have.
 
Yes, it actually does. It proves charges against them are related to Russian meddling, particularly the indictments against the Russians who meddled.
No it doesn't i said no one on trumps campaign has been charged with conspiracy with russia, and they haven't.
They have been charged with lying to the FBI about not listing meetings prior with Russian ambassador's etc ... they have not been charged with
conspiracy. which would indicate that they were working with Russia to up sure the election. Russian's being charged has nothing to do with Trump
unless you can prove they were working with the trump campaign. PS Russia has been trying to meddle in our elections for the past few decades.

If you're going to post an obvious lie right out of the gate, then clearly you're not worth my time. Except for this little gem:
So they lied about colluding with Russia and were convicted for it, but that has nothing to do with collusion with Russia, so obviously Mueller's team won't have anything. :lol:

No that isn't what i said. this is why you are a dishonest. You can't even post what i said correctly.
They were not charged with collusion. collusion is not a crime except in anti-trust cases. So you are wrong with that right off the bat.
They were charged for lying by not listing a meeting that they had.

they were not charged with conspiracy which would indicate that they were working with russia.
you don't seem to know the difference and are just being dishonest as normal.

if you want to quote someone quote them correctly.

The sheer idiocy coming from Trump supporters anymore is overwhelming.
This coming from the person who said people convicted for lying about their collusion with Russia had nothing to do with collusion with Russia breaks every irony meter I have.

then you should be able to provide a list of people that have been charged with conspiracy.
i will be waiting.

yes the sheer idiocy of people making claims they can't support like you.
collusion isn't a crime.
it is called conspiracy.

so list the people that have been charged with conspiracy.
so far no one has.
 
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