Meadows calls on Rosenstein to resign 'immediately'

[Mach]

If the reports are true that Mueller is done with his investigation then it really makes no difference. Also it's unusual for someone to be replaced after 2 years of service.
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That's false, it makes every difference.

Rosenstein is in charge of the investigation overall, not Mueller. Mueller works under Rosenstein.
Until Mueller discloses his findings to Rosenstein, and Rosenstein completes all actions related to it, it matters if he's removed by people trying to interfere with that investigation for partisan reasons.

Obviously if they replaced Rosenstein with someone partisan, which I believe can be done in a recess appointment without any oversight/process, and Mueller is directed to make his findings known to that partisan, the partisan can then basically stop the public from being aware of most of the information. I think he can decide not to pursue it, and give a generalized summary to congress, and call it done.

That would be the difference between night and day. Where are you getting your information that it doesn't matter?

 

[Grokmaster]

That's false, it makes every difference.

Rosenstein is in charge of the investigation overall, not Mueller. Mueller works under Rosenstein.
Until Mueller discloses his findings to Rosenstein, and Rosenstein completes all actions related to it, it matters if he's removed by people trying to interfere with that investigation for partisan reasons.

Obviously if they replaced Rosenstein with someone partisan, which I believe can be done in a recess appointment without any oversight/process, and Mueller is directed to make his findings known to that partisan, the partisan can then basically stop the public from being aware of most of the information. I think he can decide not to pursue it, and give a generalized summary to congress, and call it done.

That would be the difference between night and day. Where are you getting your information that it doesn't matter?

Rosenstein and Mueller are BOTH UNELECTED BUREAUCRATS, who have no authority over the POTUS, who is BOTH OF THEIR BOSSES, and are subject to Congressional oversight.


Rosenstein should have RECUSED HIMSELF from the entire Witch Hunt, as he IS A WITNESS, and POSSIBLE SUSPECT, in the FISA ABUSE at its core.

 

[Sam_Troy]

Update on the corrupt Rosenweasel:

Reps. Meadows and Jordan Lash Out at Rosenstein For Demanding Special “Classified” Format to Testify on Capitol Hill

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...classified-format-to-testify-on-capitol-hill/

 

[Mach]

Rosenstein and Mueller are BOTH UNELECTED BUREAUCRATS, who have no authority over the POTUS, who is BOTH OF THEIR BOSSES, and are subject to Congressional oversight.
Rosenstein should have RECUSED HIMSELF from the entire Witch Hunt, as he IS A WITNESS, and POSSIBLE SUSPECT, in the FISA ABUSE at its core.

And yet none of this has any bearing on the facts I stated, or anything important. Why are you posting that?

 

[trouble13]

That's false, it makes every difference.

Rosenstein is in charge of the investigation overall, not Mueller. Mueller works under Rosenstein.
Until Mueller discloses his findings to Rosenstein, and Rosenstein completes all actions related to it, it matters if he's removed by people trying to interfere with that investigation for partisan reasons.

Obviously if they replaced Rosenstein with someone partisan, which I believe can be done in a recess appointment without any oversight/process, and Mueller is directed to make his findings known to that partisan, the partisan can then basically stop the public from being aware of most of the information. I think he can decide not to pursue it, and give a generalized summary to congress, and call it done.

That would be the difference between night and day. Where are you getting your information that it doesn't matter?

You're making a lot of assumptions.
1. I really don't see any reason that Jeff sessions could not unreserved himself and oversee the investigation. He is less compromised than Rosenstein.
Also do you have concerns that the person in charge of the investigation is the same person who signed off on a fisa warrant and recommended comey being fired? Why is that ok?
2. Regardless of who is in charge isn't it going to be up to Congress how much of the report is going to be released to the public?
3. There is no way this investigation is not going to be completed at this point. That ship has sailed.

I am of the opinion that with or without Rosenstein that report is going to be completed and at the very least portions if not its entirety will be released to the public.

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[Helix]

SESSIONS is Mueller's boss's , AS IS CONGRESS...and the POTUS.

Rosenstein is his immediate boss. if Trumpists don't lose the house, Sessions is probably gone after the midterms. he might be gone anyway. i suppose that remains to be seen.

 

[Slyfox696]

Please list all the Russian collusion convictions

https://medium.com/@KeithDB/a-runni...tigation-convictions-indictments-f518b9a72827

or financial crimes from this decade

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/21/politics/paul-manafort-trial-jury/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/14/politics/paul-manafort-guilty-plea/index.html

that have been part of the Big Russian Inteference/Collusion Witch Hunt.

You're welcome. That took me an entire 30 seconds to Google. I'm sure whatever search engine you use in your country could do the same thing.

Update on the corrupt Rosenweasel:

Reps. Meadows and Jordan Lash Out at Rosenstein For Demanding Special “Classified” Format to Testify on Capitol Hill

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...classified-format-to-testify-on-capitol-hill/

A website well known for pushing lies and propaganda reports something that a couple of liars and active obstructionists say.

News at 11.

You're making a lot of assumptions.
1. I really don't see any reason that Jeff sessions could not unreserved himself and oversee the investigation. He is less compromised than Rosenstein.

Hahahahahahaha

Rosenstein isn't compromised. Sessions was an active participant in the discussions between the Trump campaign team and Russia. It's like you people don't even read the news.

Also do you have concerns that the person in charge of the investigation is the same person who signed off on a fisa warrant and recommended comey being fired? Why is that ok?

...why is it not?

I am of the opinion that with or without Rosenstein that report is going to be completed and at the very least portions if not its entirety will be released to the public.

Agreed, especially if Democrats take one branch of Congress. Of course, it won't matter what it said, Republicans have shown themselves to be so corrupt they won't take any action no matter what.

 

[Grokmaster]

And yet none of this has any bearing on the facts I stated, or anything important. Why are you posting that?

Rosenstien's removal, if it happens, has nothing to do with the WITCH HUNT, although it should.

It has to do with his comments about "wiretapping" the POTUS.

The entire DEBACLE is invalid in the first place, and Rosenstein should have recused himself, HAVING SIGNED ONE OF THE FISA RENEWALS< which we didn't learn about until NEARLY A YEAR LATER, since ROSENSTEIN BLOCKED US FROM FINDING OUT AS LONG AS HE COULD.

 

[Slyfox696]

The entire DEBACLE is invalid in the first place, and Rosenstein should have recused himself, HAVING SIGNED ONE OF THE FISA RENEWALS< which we didn't learn about until NEARLY A YEAR LATER, since

Again, it never ceases to amaze me how posters who post in support of Trump live in a completely detached reality they've built for themselves. Now Rosenstein should have recused himself because he was doing his job.

I understand why you're here, but could you at least say things which make a modicum of sense?

ROSENSTEIN BLOCKED US FROM FINDING OUT AS LONG AS HE COULD.

FISA documents are not generally made public. Seriously, stop saying such ridiculous things.

 

[Grokmaster]

https://medium.com/@KeithDB/a-runni...tigation-convictions-indictments-f518b9a72827

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/21/politics/paul-manafort-trial-jury/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/14/politics/paul-manafort-guilty-plea/index.html

You're welcome. That took me an entire 30 seconds to Google. I'm sure whatever search engine you use in your country could do the same thing.
A website well known for pushing lies and propaganda reports something that a couple of liars and active obstructionists say.

News at 11.
Hahahahahahaha

Rosenstein isn't compromised. Sessions was an active participant in the discussions between the Trump campaign team and Russia. It's like you people don't even read the news.

...why is it not?

Agreed, especially if Democrats take one branch of Congress. Of course, it won't matter what it said, Republicans have shown themselves to be so corrupt they won't take any action no matter what.

Yeah...I noticed you FAILED TO CITE A SINGLE RUSSIAN COLLUSION CONVICTION.


Didn't understand the question? Or thought if you SPAMMED A BUNCH OF BULL**** LINKS, I wouldn't notice?


The Grand Buffoon, Mueller, has "racked up" a pile of PROCESS CRIMES , having nothing to do with the election, (Manafort/Cohen/Gates), a Russian Ad company for $45,000 in FB ads, which he WAS NOT EVEN PREPARED TO PROSECUTE when he issued the indictment, Ham Sandwich indictments of "Russian hackers" based on NOT OONE SGRED OF FBI GATHERED EVIDENCE, but on the WORD of the DNC contractor CROWDSTRIKE, a plea for "lying " (Flynn) where he probably WITHHELD EXCULPATORY EVIDENCE (which would not be a first for the Grand Buffoon), and whopping TWO WEEK SENTENCE for his Big London Indictment of Papadopolous.




You might want to put away the "ANNOINTING OIL" for your BELOVED BUFFOON, until all the cards are on the table and we learn whether or not THIS ARROGANT IDIOT is going to cost us $MILLIONS in DAMAGES for PROSECUTORIAL MISCODUCT...which ALSO WOULD NOT BE A FIRST FOR The Grand Buffon.

 

[Grokmaster]

Again, it never ceases to amaze me how posters who post in support of Trump live in a completely detached reality they've built for themselves. Now Rosenstein should have recused himself because he was doing his job.

I understand why you're here, but could you at least say things which make a modicum of sense?
FISA documents are not generally made public. Seriously, stop saying such ridiculous things.

The actions of the Obama Swamp, before, during, and after the 2016 election are under investigationas you read this, with KREMLIN LINKED PRIMARY CONSPIRATORS, such as GLENN SIMPSON, ALREADY PLEADING THE 5th, and others TOTALLY CONTRADICTING PREVIOUS STATEMENTS by their COHORTS.

Do you seriously pretend that the Witch Hunt is NOT INSANELY BIASED AND CORRUPTED?

CONGRESS HAS AUTHORTY OVER THE UNELECTED BUREAUCRATS which the Obama Swamp Leftovers keep trying to pretend doesn't exist.

FISA PAPERS are released when CONGRESS SUBPOENAS THEM, and that happened over a year ago.

 

[Mach]

Rosenstien's removal, if it happens, has nothing to do with the WITCH HUNT, although it should.
It has to do with his comments about "wiretapping" the POTUS.
The entire DEBACLE is invalid in the first place, and Rosenstein should have recused himself, HAVING SIGNED ONE OF THE FISA RENEWALS< which we didn't learn about until NEARLY A YEAR LATER, since ROSENSTEIN BLOCKED US FROM FINDING OUT AS LONG AS HE COULD.

I don't see any value in your post, and the caps are annoying.
- Rosenstein's removal would of course have everything to do with the SC investigation if removed before then.
The paper-thin cover of "but he maybe said something Trump didn't like" is not fooling anyone.

- The SC was done legally, by Republicans, in a Republican administration. Claims of "but it's invalid" are impotent and juvenile conspiracy theory.

 

[Mach]

You're making a lot of assumptions.
1. I really don't see any reason that Jeff sessions could not unreserved himself and oversee the investigation. He is less compromised than Rosenstein.
Also do you have concerns that the person in charge of the investigation is the same person who signed off on a fisa warrant and recommended comey being fired? Why is that ok?

What's the price of tea in China? None of this is relevant, you're rambling.
To answer your off-point rambling:
1. there is no evidence Jeff Sessions would or should unrecuse himself.
2. I have no immediate concerns with Rosenstein

2. Regardless of who is in charge isn't it going to be up to Congress how much of the report is going to be released to the public?

You missed the entire point. How is that possible?

Rosenstein is ultimately in charge of the investigation. He can stop it, ruin it, cherry pick it, etc., BEFORE anything reaches Congress.

So no, what Congress does down the line has *nothing* to do with what Rosenstein does up-stream with regards to the investigation (or his replacement).

3. There is no way this investigation is not going to be completed at this point. That ship has sailed.

There is no evidence of that, and Meadows/Nunes/Jordan have attempted weekly to ruin the investigation by forcing Rosenstein to release information on an ongoing investigation.
Releasing information on an ongoing investigation can discredit/ruin the investigation.

Why do you not know basic things about this, this many years in, but are acting like you're communicating something of value? I don't understand it.

 

[Fletch]

I don't see any value in your post, and the caps are annoying.
- Rosenstein's removal would of course have everything to do with the SC investigation if removed before then.
The paper-thin cover of "but he maybe said something Trump didn't like" is not fooling anyone.

- The SC was done legally, by Republicans, in a Republican administration. Claims of "but it's invalid" are impotent and juvenile conspiracy theory.

It seems pretty clear that Trump has no intention of firing Rosenstein so the demands of congress are fairly meaningless.

 

[chuckiechan]

After questioning former FBI Attorney James Baker....did YET MORE CORRUPTION of the Obama Swamp Leftovers get exposed in his testimony?



Meadows calls on Rosenstein to resign 'immediately'


House Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) on Thursday called on Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to resign "immediately."

“I think at this particular point, Rod Rosenstien’s priorities are misplaced. His unwillingness to come before Congress and allow us to conduct proper congressional oversight, along with the other information that we’ve learned over the last week or so, would indicate that Rod Rosentein has not displayed the candor of which would support one’s theory of actually believing that he has been open and honest in all regards," Meadows told reporters.

"So with that, I think that it’s time that Rod Rosenstein steps down. He should do so immediately and in doing that, I think it would serve the country well, it would serve this president well," he added.

~Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), another member of the Freedom Caucus forthright in sharp criticism of Rosenstein, on Thursday criticized Rosenstein for giving an interview to The Wall Street Journal but not testifying before Congress.

Rosenstein told the newspaper on Wednesday that Mueller's investigation is "appropriate and independent."

"Rosenstein interviews with @WSJ where he says Mueller investigation is 'appropriate and independent.' Translation—there’s time for media spin to justify Mueller probe but no time to answer questions from Congress about his statement on recording the President," Jordan tweeted.





https://thehill.com/homenews/house/412077-meadows-calls-on-rosenstein-to-resign-immediately

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After the mid terms it's over. Indictments will drop on some more Russians that may or may not exist under the names they are indicted on, plus some lobbyists of both parties Manaforte fingered and Mueller will go away, Sessions and Rosenstein will be fired. And then the decks will be clear to go after the truth of the coup against the Republican party.

 

[trouble13]

What's the price of tea in China? None of this is relevant, you're rambling.
To answer your off-point rambling:
1. there is no evidence Jeff Sessions would or should unrecuse himself.
2. I have no immediate concerns with Rosenstein

You missed the entire point. How is that possible?

Rosenstein is ultimately in charge of the investigation. He can stop it, ruin it, cherry pick it, etc., BEFORE anything reaches Congress.

So no, what Congress does down the line has *nothing* to do with what Rosenstein does up-stream with regards to the investigation (or his replacement).


There is no evidence of that, and Meadows/Nunes/Jordan have attempted weekly to ruin the investigation by forcing Rosenstein to release information on an ongoing investigation.
Releasing information on an ongoing investigation can discredit/ruin the investigation.

Why do you not know basic things about this, this many years in, but are acting like you're communicating something of value? I don't understand it.

Why are trying to make rosenstein untouchable when he is comprised as much as he is. Trump can fire him at anytime and I would be fine with it. I also have every confidence that he will put in a good replacement. Your witch hunts safe either way.

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[Grokmaster]

I don't see any value in your post, and the caps are annoying.
- Rosenstein's removal would of course have everything to do with the SC investigation if removed before then.
The paper-thin cover of "but he maybe said something Trump didn't like" is not fooling anyone.

- The SC was done legally, by Republicans, in a Republican administration. Claims of "but it's invalid" are impotent and juvenile conspiracy theory.

The SC was set up by COMEY, and ROSENSTEIN, both longtime Swamp Dwellers, all the illegal surveillance and election interference by the rest of the Swamp and Obama Leftovers.


The fact that the Witch Hunt is overwhelmingly populated with ANTI-TRUMP, DNC DONORS including and Obama White House lawyer is no "conspiracy theory", and to pretend that does not prove glaring bias requires the reality disconnect that DEFINES THE LEFT.

 

[Slyfox696]

Yeah...I noticed you FAILED TO CITE A SINGLE RUSSIAN COLLUSION CONVICTION.

Uhh, yes I did. Did you not read the links? When those people enter a guilty plea, that's a conviction. It's okay if you don't know how the justice system works here in America, but if you could take a moment to learn before you post stupid stuff, it would be appreciated.

The actions of the Obama Swamp, before, during, and after the 2016 election are under investigationas you read this, with KREMLIN LINKED PRIMARY CONSPIRATORS, such as GLENN SIMPSON, ALREADY PLEADING THE 5th, and others TOTALLY CONTRADICTING PREVIOUS STATEMENTS by their COHORTS.

Do you seriously pretend that the Witch Hunt is NOT INSANELY BIASED AND CORRUPTED?

CONGRESS HAS AUTHORTY OVER THE UNELECTED BUREAUCRATS which the Obama Swamp Leftovers keep trying to pretend doesn't exist.

FISA PAPERS are released when CONGRESS SUBPOENAS THEM, and that happened over a year ago.

You didn't answer anything I said, just regurgitated propaganda very similar to what the Russian troll farms have been caught pushing.

Are you a bot? Like, will you give me the same answers if I keep asking the same questions?

 

[Grokmaster]

Uhh, yes I did. Did you not read the links? When those people enter a guilty plea, that's a conviction. It's okay if you don't know how the justice system works here in America, but if you could take a moment to learn before you post stupid stuff, it would be appreciated.

You didn't answer anything I said, just regurgitated propaganda very similar to what the Russian troll farms have been caught pushing.

Are you a bot? Like, will you give me the same answers if I keep asking the same questions?

NO ONE INVOLVED WITH PRES. TRUMP, OR IS CAMPAIGN, PLEADED GUILTTY TO "RUSSIAN COLLUSION".

Your BIG RUSSIAN COLLUSION was Russians "colluding" with THEMSELVES?


Der....


Reading comp troubles?

 

[Slyfox696]

NO ONE INVOLVED WITH PRES. TRUMP, OR IS CAMPAIGN, PLEADED GUILTTY TO "RUSSIAN COLLUSION".

Because that is not a specific crime. However, they have pleaded guilty to other crimes which constitute collusion.

Tell the truth, just once in this thread. It'd be great.

 

[Grokmaster]

Because that is not a specific crime. However, they have pleaded guilty to other crimes which constitute collusion.

Tell the truth, just once in this thread. It'd be great.

Oh...Leftist Word Dance time, already?


NO ONE in the Trump Campaign HAS BEEN FOUND TO HAVE COLLUDED WITH THW RUSSIANS TO INFLUENCE THE ELECTION , AKA: THE PRIMARY MANDATE of the Witch Hunt.

There has been NOT ONE INDICTMENT or CONVICTION of ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH HIS CAMPAIGN, and the ELECTION, which is PRECISELY WHAT I SAID.


There...that help you FACE THE FACTS more honestly?


The Witch Hunt has been an ABJECT FAILURE , based on its ORIGINAL, PRIMARY PURPOSE.

It was a politically STAGED SCAM, from the start, and Rosenstein should have recused himself from anything having to do with it, as he WAS A DIRECTLY INVOLVED PARTY BEFOREHAND.

 

[Slyfox696]

Oh...Leftist Word Dance time, already?

No, pointing out facts is not dancing. It's just pointing out facts.

NO ONE in the Trump Campaign HAS BEEN FOUND TO HAVE COLLUDED WITH THW RUSSIANS TO INFLUENCE THE ELECTION

That is false. As evidenced by events experienced by those of us living in this reality and as exposed by indictments and convictions provided from Mueller's team.

I know you have no desire to post facts and truth. I know you wish to spread disinformation. I get that. But could you at least not be so blatantly obvious about it?

There has been NOT ONE INDICTMENT or CONVICTION of ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH HIS CAMPAIGN, and the ELECTION, which is PRECISELY WHAT I SAID.

Which is false, as I have proven. Why do you post lies about things already proven?

The Witch Hunt has been an ABJECT FAILURE , based on its ORIGINAL, PRIMARY PURPOSE.

Except it hasn't, either in what you seemingly consider its primary purpose or what was actually its primary purpose. The only failure here is yours, in your attempt to post obvious falsehoods.

It was a politically STAGED SCAM, from the start, and Rosenstein should have recused himself from anything having to do with it, as he WAS A DIRECTLY INVOLVED PARTY BEFOREHAND.

This is completely divorced from reality. As is most things stated from posts supporting Trump.

 

[Grokmaster]

No, pointing out facts is not dancing. It's just pointing out facts.

That is false. As evidenced by events experienced by those of us living in this reality and as exposed by indictments and convictions provided from Mueller's team.

I know you have no desire to post facts and truth. I know you wish to spread disinformation. I get that. But could you at least not be so blatantly obvious about it?

Which is false, as I have proven. Why do you post lies about things already proven?

[/B]Except it hasn't, either in what you seemingly consider its primary purpose or what was actually its primary purpose. The only failure here is yours, in your attempt to post obvious falsehoods.

This is completely divorced from reality. As is most things stated from posts supporting Trump.

Oh we see that you're now RUNNING FROM YOUR PREVIOUS PROVEN LIE, that there have been CONVICTIONS FOR RUSSIAN COLLUSION.

Do I need to copy and paste it here...or are you going to suddenly start posting honestly?

So Russian Interference and Collusion were NOT the PRIMARY MANDATE of the SC Charter?


Seriously? Who knew?


What was it...to GET TRUMP NO MATTER WHAT?


As I said a POLIICAL SHAM from the start.




Rosenstein SIGNED one of the FISA renewals.

And you don't see that as a CONFLICT in the establishment of the Witch Hunt?

Seriously?

 

[Tanngrisnir]

Oh we see that you're now RUNNING FROM YOUR PREVIOUS PROVEN LIE, that there have been CONVICTIONS FOR RUSSIAN COLLUSION.

Do I need to copy and paste it here...or are you going to suddenly start posting honestly?

So Russian Interference and Collusion were NOT the PRIMARY MANDATE of the SC Charter?


Seriously? Who knew?


What was it...to GET TRUMP NO MATTER WHAT?
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As I said a POLIICAL SHAM from the start.




Rosenstein SIGNED one of the FISA renewals.

And you don't see that as a CONFLICT in the establishment of the Witch Hunt?

Seriously?

Why are you trying to talk about things you don't understand?

 

[Grokmaster]

Why are you trying to talk about things you don't understand?