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Lisa Page will not appear for Capitol Hill interview despite subpoena, attorney says

nota bene said:
I'm pretty tired of "this type of activity."

The Bush White House ignored subpoenas, as did the Obama admin.
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Yeah, I hear you.

I'm torn on the lack of enforcement, though. Firstly, subpoenas should obviously be fully enforceable. However, if the committees are obstructing or playing partisan politics, do we really want them to have that power to cause havoc & destroy lives?

I see subpoena power (and enforcement) as a double-edged sword, dependent upon who's wielding it.

In fact, this may be why neither party enforces their subpoenas in modern times. They may fear crossing the threshold of unleashing a powerful tool that can cause great damage when used in a politically partisan manor. So they lay-back, fearing potential mutual destruction.
 
late said:
They can, but that would be wildly premature.

The reality here is that they know this is BS, pure political theater, and she obviously knows it's BS, and she wants to put it off as long as she can.
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The text messages between her and Peter Strzok are not BS at all. They are very real.
 
humbolt said:
Yep, and it could be followed by a fine and/or jail, depending on circumstances. Unless congress gets tough with some of these people, such behavior is likely to continue. It appears they have a lot to hide.
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Both the FBI moles and congress (all) have a lot to hide... from all of us (left, right, middle, etc).

The political scam on our nation continues...
 
MrMike said:
Both the FBI moles and congress (all) have a lot to hide... from all of us (left, right, middle, etc).

The political scam on our nation continues...
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It's like opening a can with a fork. It takes a whole lot of effort, and you never may actually get it open.
 
hanger4 said:
How long does it take to prepare to tell the truth ??
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Trump hasn't told the truth his entire life and he is apparently still not prepared to do so anytime soon.
 
Cardinal said:
And if the Democrats get control of the House this November, you will get to see the Trump White House ignore the House's subpoenas.
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Concerning this subject, you may take an interest in the link below. I know you know most of it, but it's enlightening to see it laid-out & organized in print.

The Dems entire efforts the next three months should be a lazer-like focus on the House. Bar none. I'd put blinders on them to that effect, if I could!

(The Week) What will happen if Democrats retake the House?


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Chomsky said:
Concerning this subject, you may take an interest in the link below. I know you know most of it, but it's enlightening to see it laid-out & organized in print.

The Dems entire efforts the next three months should be a lazer-like focus on the House. Bar none. I'd put blinders on them to that effect, if I could!

(The Week) What will happen if Democrats retake the House?


horse-blinders.jpg
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Yep, I knew all that, which is why getting control of the House is quite good, but getting control of the Senate would be the best.

Hey, unlikelier things have happened. There was a 20% chance that Trump would win the 2016 election, which means that we are the one in twenty (twenty out of a hundred) parallel earths in which Trump won. I don't know what the Democrats' chances are of taking the Senate, but let's assume that it's a really low number again (20%). Maybe we'll also be one of the twenty earths out of a hundred in which that happens.
 
humbolt said:
The GOP is good at that. They have a can opener, if they'd just use it.
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You see..

Devout partisanship ruins everything. Including any attempt to bridge the mess our government (in total) is.

They (both parties) count on that blind partisanship and cultivate it between us. Without it to keep us divided and fighting, we'd step back and pay attention to what they are collectively doing to all of us. That's scary....
 
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Acadia said:
I know this happened with the Clinton email investigation where her people just said, "screw you" when subpoenaed to appear.
How does one do this and not affect a bench warrant?
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Because they know it's political games, and know they aren't really pursuing justice in the interest of the nation.
 
MrMike said:
You see..

Devout partisanship ruins everything. Including any attempt to bridge the mess our government (in total) is.

They (both parties) count on that bling partisanship. Without it to keep us divided and fighting, we'd step back and pay attention to what they are collectively doing to all of us. That's scary....
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They are quite adept at keeping us "aggrieved".
 
Mach said:
Because they know it's political games, and know they aren't really pursuing justice in the interest of the nation.
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Well, I've given up having any expectations whatsoever from Congressional hearings.
 
Cardinal said:
Yep, I knew all that, which is why getting control of the House is quite good, but getting control of the Senate would be the best.

Hey, unlikelier things have happened. There was a 20% chance that Trump would win the 2016 election, which means that we are the one in twenty (twenty out of a hundred) parallel earths in which Trump won. I don't know what the Democrats' chances are of taking the Senate, but let's assume that it's a really low number again (20%). Maybe we'll also be one of the twenty earths out of a hundred in which that happens.
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Well, it never hurts to reach. But I'd surely not let that reach ever conflict with what I see as the main (& reachable) goal.

Unfortunately, a policy helping a CD may not help or even may hinder a Senator. And vis a versa, of course.

I could live with just the House as a start. Get the House, fire-up the committees and restart the investigations in a proper manner transparent manner, and televise everything. Then let's see if the GOP Senators can proclaim "Fake News"?

I believe proper House investigations will indeed influence the public's perceptions, which will eventually play-out in the Senate in due time. First things first!
 
Chomsky said:
The Dems entire efforts the next three months should be a lazer-like focus on the House. Bar none. I'd put blinders on them to that effect, if I could!
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I agree.
Republicans definitely seem better with the whole "blinders" thing, whether it's from their very focused news propaganda machine, or organized religions that have dogmatic teachings, etc.

You saw the Cambridge Analytica whistleblower saying how he brought their services to Democrats, who just kind of scratched their heads and said they don't need it?
It's like trying to get free-thinkers to all agree on rigid rules and direction...herding cats I suppose. It's why I lament the seeming loss of bi-partisanship, where the two balance/temper each other.
 
MrMike said:
You see..

Devout partisanship ruins everything. Including any attempt to bridge the mess our government (in total) is.

They (both parties) count on that blind partisanship and cultivate it between us. Without it to keep us divided and fighting, we'd step back and pay attention to what they are collectively doing to all of us. That's scary....
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Your post has been swept up in an NSA collection effort. You'll be contacted shortly about your unpatriotic activities. :lamo
 
Acadia said:
Well, I've given up having any expectations whatsoever from Congressional hearings.
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Sure, but do you support the far more serious criminal investigation from the special counsel?
How about the Inspector General, another formal investigation...did you support their conclusion that they found no evidence that political bias affected any outcomes/decisions?

The House "investigation" is not a criminal investigation like Trump's campaign is under, and his personal attorney is under, not sure what you expected. It's not even a formal watchdog investigation like the IG investigation. It's the House, using it's authority to generate cover for Trump/Republicans, and attack Democrats/DOJ. I agree, to expect anything out of them other than more partisan games, is wise.

I mean, don't you think even if we remove who is in office today and the party affiliations, that having the same party in the House, supposedly provide "oversight" to the same party in the White House, seems kind of silly? Better still if members of the House were literally part of the campaign for who won the White House...providing oversight? <- Can anyone explain to me how this makes sense?
 
If FBI agents said what was said about Obama instead of Trump, Democrats would be doing the same thing.
 
late said:
They can, but that would be wildly premature.

The reality here is that they know this is BS, pure political theater, and she obviously knows it's BS, and she wants to put it off as long as she can.
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It looks like Ryan is ready to charge her.

Speaker Paul Ryan said Wednesday he is willing to hold former FBI attorney Lisa Page in contempt of Congress if she continues defying a congressional subpoena to answer questions about anti-Donald Trump text message exchanges.

“I am very disturbed by this,” Ryan told reporters at a news conference. “Congressional subpoenas for testimony are not optional. ... She was a part of a mess that they have uncovered over at DOJ. She has an obligation to come testify.”
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https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/11/lisa-page-contempt-of-congress-paul-ryan-709685
 
Cardinal said:
Yep, I knew all that, which is why getting control of the House is quite good, but getting control of the Senate would be the best.

Hey, unlikelier things have happened. There was a 20% chance that Trump would win the 2016 election, which means that we are the one in twenty (twenty out of a hundred) parallel earths in which Trump won. I don't know what the Democrats' chances are of taking the Senate, but let's assume that it's a really low number again (20%). Maybe we'll also be one of the twenty earths out of a hundred in which that happens.
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Looks like you're talking more about controlling the Horse?
 
Cardinal said:
And if the Democrats get control of the House this November, you will get to see the Trump White House ignore the House's subpoenas.
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LOL. So, you guys are the first to claim whataboutisms and yet here you are doing a whataboutism.
 
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