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Let’s call it like it is. Trump admin has killed thousands from incompetence.

You all know its Obama's fault....because, just do the math! (wait....don't do the math)

Mah.webp
 
And Donald Trump doesn't care.

He cares about his ratings more.
 
Threegoofs said:
I don’t think this point should be taken lightly.

This pandemic could not be avoided, but it could have been headed off at the pass and controlled.

We had a lot of time to prepare and the US is still currently the wealthiest nation on earth, so resources were ample.

But..

If you look at the numbers, the death-count 4/28/20 in countries that took prompt, aggressive action:

S. Korea: 244
Japan: 385
Hong Kong: 4
Taiwan: 6
NZ 19

The US where Trump called COVID-19 a hoax & ignored it for 70 days, threatened to fire officials who warned about the impending pandemic, actively discouraged development and deployment of widespread testing (and STILL is behind!) and faces huge deficit of PPE and masks.

US Death Toll From COVID on 4/28: 57,000 and climbing by over 1000 per day.

This is a total fiasco, and the government- even now(!) has no plan to contain this outside of the hammer of social distancing. No massive test ramp up yet (unless you believe Mike Pence, which we all have been burned by), no comprehensive plan of testing, researching contacts and isolating new cases, etc.

This is all setting us up for a year of economic failure- because without testing and contact tracing/isolation, we will just stagger on thru starting and stopping stay at home orders, this further destroying the economy.

Yes- it’s expensive getting testing off the ground on a massive scale, but it’s not going to cost the trillions that were lost by shutting down the economy. And it’s a myth that it can just magically reopen again, since customers tend not to patronize businesses that have a small chance of killing them.

The virus might be an Act of God, but the incompetent response has made it much, much worse.
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It's like they don't even listen to Dr. Birx. We are following Europe, not China not Japan not SoKo not NZ.

How is this hard to grasp??????
 
Trump can't get a loan from a US bank. Why do any of us think he's competent to lead a nation?
 
Re: Let’s call it like it is. Trump admin has killed thousands from incompetence.

KevinKohler said:
Trump, Biden Spin China Travel Restrictions - FactCheck.org

Neither early nor late, according to fact check.

As for test kits...the folks that make them were on lock down, remember? Part of the danger of relying so exclusively on imported goods, some Trump is also hugely unpopular for combating.
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Even after Trump issued his China order, 40,000+ Chinese nationals still arrived at US airports.

But RNA matching shows the US COVID infection actually came from Europe.
 
Mongidig said:
I'd be curious to see how many cases across the country New York is responsible for. You guys keep throwing out these numbers. What exactly were you expecting during the spike in a huge country like the US? Are you going to be able to brag about the big numbers in May? Nope!

The US is a very unhealthy nation overall. It makes sense that we have a lot of deaths due to this virus.

The US is a booming national economy. We get more divers people form many nations than anywhere else.

Just to sum it all up. New York delayed about a week or two shutting things down. Unhealthy nation. Vast international trade and travel. I think we did pretty good!
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NY really blew it when it came to their response.
 
OlNate said:
“Leadership: Whatever happens, you’re responsible. If it doesn’t happen, you’re responsible.”
- Donald Trump

Tough spot for you, Trix. You either have to explain to me how he was lying / wrong, or you have to admit he's responsible. What's it gonna be?
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It's not a tough spot for me at all... You might want to hold your prime minister, Trudeau, responsible instead of denying that Trump already had a plan in action on Jan. 31 where Trump

1) declared the coronavirus a public health emergency.

2) announced Chinese travel restrictions.

3) suspended entry into the United States for foreign nationals who pose a risk of transmitting the coronavirus.

Your PM, Trudeau, wasn't really worried about the coronavirus threat on Jan. 31 by comparison to President Trump. Trudeau says coronavirus threat remains low in Canada
 
OlNate said:
Regionally? America has nearly three times the deaths per million than Canada has. I'll need to have your assertion explained in a little more depth.
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Canadian citizens are more spread out Nate.

Look at NYC with it's crowded buses, subways and apartment complexes.

It's no wonder it's the hot spot of of the USA.
 
Threegoofs said:
I don’t think this point should be taken lightly.

This pandemic could not be avoided, but it could have been headed off at the pass and controlled.

We had a lot of time to prepare and the US is still currently the wealthiest nation on earth, so resources were ample.

But..

If you look at the numbers, the death-count 4/28/20 in countries that took prompt, aggressive action:

S. Korea: 244
Japan: 385
Hong Kong: 4
Taiwan: 6
NZ 19

The US where Trump called COVID-19 a hoax & ignored it for 70 days, threatened to fire officials who warned about the impending pandemic, actively discouraged development and deployment of widespread testing (and STILL is behind!) and faces huge deficit of PPE and masks.

US Death Toll From COVID on 4/28: 57,000 and climbing by over 1000 per day.

This is a total fiasco, and the government- even now(!) has no plan to contain this outside of the hammer of social distancing. No massive test ramp up yet (unless you believe Mike Pence, which we all have been burned by), no comprehensive plan of testing, researching contacts and isolating new cases, etc.

This is all setting us up for a year of economic failure- because without testing and contact tracing/isolation, we will just stagger on thru starting and stopping stay at home orders, this further destroying the economy.

Yes- it’s expensive getting testing off the ground on a massive scale, but it’s not going to cost the trillions that were lost by shutting down the economy. And it’s a myth that it can just magically reopen again, since customers tend not to patronize businesses that have a small chance of killing them.

The virus might be an Act of God, but the incompetent response has made it much, much worse.
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Where is your blame for Governors who did not have their states prepared?
 
trixare4kids said:
It's not a tough spot for me at all... You might want to hold your prime minister, Trudeau, responsible instead of denying that Trump already had a plan in action on Jan. 31 where Trump

1) declared the coronavirus a public health emergency.

2) announced Chinese travel restrictions.

3) suspended entry into the United States for foreign nationals who pose a risk of transmitting the coronavirus.

Your PM, Trudeau, wasn't really worried about the coronavirus threat on Jan. 31 by comparison to President Trump. Trudeau says coronavirus threat remains low in Canada
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You forgot the masterstroke of the plan.

4) do nothing for the entire month of February.
 
Threegoofs said:
I don’t think this point should be taken lightly.

This pandemic could not be avoided, but it could have been headed off at the pass and controlled.

We had a lot of time to prepare and the US is still currently the wealthiest nation on earth, so resources were ample.

But..

If you look at the numbers, the death-count 4/28/20 in countries that took prompt, aggressive action:

S. Korea: 244
Japan: 385
Hong Kong: 4
Taiwan: 6
NZ 19

The US where Trump called COVID-19 a hoax & ignored it for 70 days, threatened to fire officials who warned about the impending pandemic, actively discouraged development and deployment of widespread testing (and STILL is behind!) and faces huge deficit of PPE and masks.

US Death Toll From COVID on 4/28: 57,000 and climbing by over 1000 per day.

This is a total fiasco, and the government- even now(!) has no plan to contain this outside of the hammer of social distancing. No massive test ramp up yet (unless you believe Mike Pence, which we all have been burned by), no comprehensive plan of testing, researching contacts and isolating new cases, etc.

This is all setting us up for a year of economic failure- because without testing and contact tracing/isolation, we will just stagger on thru starting and stopping stay at home orders, this further destroying the economy.

Yes- it’s expensive getting testing off the ground on a massive scale, but it’s not going to cost the trillions that were lost by shutting down the economy. And it’s a myth that it can just magically reopen again, since customers tend not to patronize businesses that have a small chance of killing them.

The virus might be an Act of God, but the incompetent response has made it much, much worse.
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Trump is a dick.....we get it.

But you are so typical of every bitching liberal on here that knows nothing about anything, and yet tries to come off like he knows something.
 
Mongidig said:
Are you gonna mention De Blasio and Cuomo and Pelosi etc? Or are you not done with your little temper tantrum?
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Or how about Oxiris Barbot, New York City health commissioner who boasted on Feb. 3rd, “We are encouraging New Yorkers to go about their everyday lives and suggest practicing everyday precautions that we do through the flu season.”
2019 novel coronavirus update: Keep calm and wash your hands – School of Public Health

Oh but "orange man, (who I've read is now being accused of being on drugs), bad"; very very bad.

And our president already had travel restrictions and place and declared 1) declared the coronavirus a public health emergency on 1/31/2020 and he also:

2) announced Chinese travel restrictions.

3) suspended entry into the United States for foreign nationals who pose a risk of transmitting the coronavirus.

But the truth doesn't matter to the Trump resistors... because it's an election year and his foes will lie, deflect, and do whatever it takes to get this president out of office.
 
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RetiredUSN said:
Trump is a dick...
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..we get it.
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Well, baybe you do but the best of the, so called, conservatives around here do is try to suck on it. So thanks for your honesty.

But you are so typical of every bitching liberal on here that knows nothing about anything, and yet tries to come off like he knows something.
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What did he get wrong?
 
Bucky said:
LOL.

You literally cited five island-countries that are the most homogeneous in the world.

South Korea: 51 million
Japan: 126.5 million
Hong Kong: 7.4 million
New Zealand: 4.8 million
Taiwan: 23.78 million

United States: 328.2 million

The fact is, the u.s. has done a better job controlling the virus than those 5 countries when you look at things regionally. trump cannot force the citizens of us to stay inside. If someone wants to go to the grocery store and cough on food, there is nothing we can do to stop it.
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Hong Kong is actually on mainland China. South Korea isn't an island either - it's a peninsula on the asian mainland. Four out of 5 are huge international business hubs with enormous human traffic, and homogeneity has nothing whatsoever to do with a likelihood of pandemic. With the exception of New Zealand, their exposure was enormous and widespread, and yet, compared to the USA, they managed to contain it masterfully. They were prepared. Trump was not.
 
CharisRose said:
Thanks for the information to set the record straight.

To bad some in the media haven’t called it... “like it really is” but have called it like they “wished it was”... “The orange man killed thousands via incompetence!”

Roseann:)
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You're welcome, Roseann.
 
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