Let’s call it like it is. Trump admin has killed thousands from incompetence.

[trixare4kids]

News media, liberals mock conservatives for early pandemic comments they made themselves
Analysis of three months of public comments shows health officials, liberals and media personalities made comments similar to conservatives now being mocked.

The one-sided condemnation, often targeting conservatives and Trump supporters, ignores an essential fact: many of the criticized comments accurately reflected guidance from the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) at the time— and even today. Also, it turns out, liberal sources and public health officials have said the very same things without being criticized. It is as if the rhetoric is deemed to be dangerous or “coronavirus-doubting” only when uttered by conservatives, Trump supporters or other targeted people.

The leftist media and their double standards... :lol:

Oxiris Barbot, New York City health commissioner: “We are encouraging New Yorkers to go about their everyday lives and suggest practicing everyday precautions that we do through the flu season.”44

2019 novel coronavirus update: Keep calm and wash your hands – School of Public Health

Associated Press, CDC and World Health Organization (WHO): “The virus is still much less widespread than annual flu epidemics, which cause up to 5 million severe cases around the world and up to 650,000 deaths annually, according to the WHO."

As virus cases near 100,000, fear of 'devastation' for poor | WJAR

NPR, Allison Aubrey: "Worried about catching the new coronavirus? In the U.S., the flu is a bigger threat."
Buzzfeed, Dan Vergano: "Don’t worry about the coronavirus, worry about the flu."

Thread by @SharylAttkisson, They left off a few folks. Wonder why? & it turns out [...]

Axios, Bob Herman: Why we panic about coronavirus but not the flu. “If you’re freaking out about coronavirus but you didn’t get a flu shot, you’ve got it backwards."

The new coronavirus is serious. So is the flu - Axios

Daily Beast, Michael Daly: "The virus killing kids [flu] isn’t the one dominating headlines."
Sharyl Attkisson��️* @SharylAttkisson Timeline, The Visualized Twitter (Analytics)

The Washington Post, Lenny Bernstein: "Get a Grippe, America. The flu is a much bigger threat than coronavirus, for now."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...a15166-4444-11ea-b5fc-eefa848cde99_story.html

The Washington Post, "Why we should be wary of the aggressive government response to coronavirus."

https://twitter.com/SharylAttkisson/status/1246950329872257030

eta: links added

 

[Simon W. Moon]

I don’t think this point should be taken lightly.

 

[Bucky]

Canadians were born 6 feet apart.

If it wasn't for New York the US would be praised for it's response. You can thank Cuomo and De blasio for this.

The problem with the OP is that he is giving credit/blame to people that have no control over the situation.

Shouldn't Trump be praised for the low deaths in Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands, Guam, and Alaska?

You cannot compare countries like SK or Japan with the United States. It is like comparing apples with oranges.

 

[ecofarm]

News media, liberals mock conservatives for early pandemic comments they made themselves
Analysis of three months of public comments shows health officials, liberals and media personalities made comments similar to conservatives now being mocked.

Spamming for Dear Leader.

 

[Rogue Valley]

Canadians were born 6 feet apart.

If it wasn't for New York the US would be praised for it's response. You can thank Cuomo and De blasio for this.

Trump couldn't manage a lemonade stand in New York without putting it into bankruptcy.

 

[OlNate]

News media, liberals mock conservatives for early pandemic comments they made themselves
Analysis of three months of public comments shows health officials, liberals and media personalities made comments similar to conservatives now being mocked.

“Leadership: Whatever happens, you’re responsible. If it doesn’t happen, you’re responsible.”
- Donald Trump

Tough spot for you, Trix. You either have to explain to me how he was lying / wrong, or you have to admit he's responsible. What's it gonna be?

 

[OlNate]

Canadians were born 6 feet apart.

If it wasn't for New York the US would be praised for it's response. You can thank Cuomo and De blasio for this.

“Leadership: Whatever happens, you’re responsible. If it doesn’t happen, you’re responsible.”
- Donald Trump

 

[Mongidig]

LOL.

You literally cited five island-countries that are the most homogeneous in the world.

South Korea: 51 million
Japan: 126.5 million
Hong Kong: 7.4 million
New Zealand: 4.8 million
Taiwan: 23.78 million

United States: 328.2 million

The fact is, the u.s. has done a better job controlling the virus than those 5 countries when you look at things regionally. trump cannot force the citizens of us to stay inside. If someone wants to go to the grocery store and cough on food, there is nothing we can do to stop it.

They just cherry pick whatever supports their narrative. They are a bunch of liars and half thruthers.

 

[Mongidig]

“Leadership: Whatever happens, you’re responsible. If it doesn’t happen, you’re responsible.”
- Donald Trump

Are you gonna mention De Blasio and Cuomo and Pelosi etc? Or are you not done with your little temper tantrum?

 

[Mongidig]

You think 30,000 deaths in one month would be praiseworthy?

Compared to what was predicted? Yes!

How many of those 30,000 do you think are a result of people coming from or through New York?

I think you forget how large the US is.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

I apologize. I am talking about the Korean Peninsula.
New Zealand is an island country.

fwiw, hong kong isn't really an island either

3 out 5 ain't that bad for an American

 

[ecofarm]

Compared to what was predicted? Yes!

That's moronic.

You claimed if not for New York's numbers, we'd be praised. That's also moronic.

 

[HumblePi]

Compared to what was predicted? Yes!

How many of those 30,000 do you think are a result of people coming from or through New York?

I think you forget how large the US is.

Cuomo: The Coronavirus That Came To New York "Did Not Come From China, It Came From Europe"

"When you look at the number of flights that came from Europe to New York, the New York metropolitan area, New York and New Jersey during January, February, up to the close down, 13,000 flights bringing 2.2 million people," he said. "All right. So November, December you have the outbreak in China. Everybody knows."

A researcher now says knowing the number of flights coming into New York from Italy, it was like watching a horrible train wreck in slow motion. Those are the flights that were coming from Italy and from Europe, January and February. We closed the front door with the China travel ban, which was right. Even in retrospect, it was right, but we left the back door open because the virus had left China by the time we did the China travel ban. That’s what the researchers are now saying with 28,000 cases in the United States saying, with 28,000 cases in the United States, 10,000 in New York.

 

[OlNate]

Are you gonna mention De Blasio and Cuomo and Pelosi etc? Or are you not done with your little temper tantrum?

Temper tantrum? Why would I be having a temper tantrum? I'm statistically much better off than you are.

But, yeah, as I've said a number of times now, I think there will be a reckoning for a lot of people after this is all over. Not sure what that has to do with the quote regarding responsibility from your president, though...care to expand, or are you busy having a little temper tantrum of your own?

 

[Moderate Right]

I don’t think this point should be taken lightly.

This pandemic could not be avoided, but it could have been headed off at the pass and controlled.

We had a lot of time to prepare and the US is still currently the wealthiest nation on earth, so resources were ample.

But..

If you look at the numbers, the death-count 4/28/20 in countries that took prompt, aggressive action:

S. Korea: 244
Japan: 385
Hong Kong: 4
Taiwan: 6
NZ 19

The US where Trump called COVID-19 a hoax & ignored it for 70 days, threatened to fire officials who warned about the impending pandemic, actively discouraged development and deployment of widespread testing (and STILL is behind!) and faces huge deficit of PPE and masks.

US Death Toll From COVID on 4/28: 57,000 and climbing by over 1000 per day.

This is a total fiasco, and the government- even now(!) has no plan to contain this outside of the hammer of social distancing. No massive test ramp up yet (unless you believe Mike Pence, which we all have been burned by), no comprehensive plan of testing, researching contacts and isolating new cases, etc.

This is all setting us up for a year of economic failure- because without testing and contact tracing/isolation, we will just stagger on thru starting and stopping stay at home orders, this further destroying the economy.

Yes- it’s expensive getting testing off the ground on a massive scale, but it’s not going to cost the trillions that were lost by shutting down the economy. And it’s a myth that it can just magically reopen again, since customers tend not to patronize businesses that have a small chance of killing them.

The virus might be an Act of God, but the incompetent response has made it much, much worse.

LOL. Noticeably missing are UK, France, Italy, Spain, and several other much larger countries that actually compare with the US and are doing worse than the US vs the pandemic.

 

[Chomsky]

It was refreshing to read some good news on the COVID front today.

Then let's get you even more refreshed!

DP

 

[Chomsky]

Proof that quarantines work, especially preemptive ones.

Yes it does.

 

[Threegoofs]

And the incompetence just keeps on coming.

One of the few things that leaders can do is set an example for others to follow.

The Trump admin recommends masks. But Trump refuses to wear one, and makes fun of reporters in the briefings who do so.

Pence is now going to visit places like Mayo Clinic, but refuses to wear a mask, unlike everyone else.

This is incredibly bad form.

Incompetent.

And its happening today - not in February.


Coronavirus In Minnesota: VP Pence Visits Mayo Clinic, Observed Not Wearing A Face Mask – WCCO | CBS Minnesota

 

[Mongidig]

That's moronic.

You claimed if not for New York's numbers, we'd be praised. That's also moronic.

I'd be curious to see how many cases across the country New York is responsible for. You guys keep throwing out these numbers. What exactly were you expecting during the spike in a huge country like the US? Are you going to be able to brag about the big numbers in May? Nope!

The US is a very unhealthy nation overall. It makes sense that we have a lot of deaths due to this virus.

The US is a booming national economy. We get more divers people form many nations than anywhere else.

Just to sum it all up. New York delayed about a week or two shutting things down. Unhealthy nation. Vast international trade and travel. I think we did pretty good!

 

[ecofarm]

If it wasn't for New York the US would be praised for it's response.

That claim is stupid beyond all comparison. We gotta go to Giuliani to find something that stupid.

The US would not be praised for 30,000 deaths in one month resulting from the President politicizing the virus.

 

[Mongidig]

Here are facts as I know them.

On January 22 Trump said "We have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China. We have it under control. It's going to be just fine." CNBC interview in Davos, Switzerland

On January 24 Trump Tweeted "China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!"

On January 30, the WHO declared a public health emergency, Trump said We think we have it very well under control. We have very little problem in this country at this moment — five — and those people are all recuperating successfully. But we're working very closely with China and other countries, and we think it's going to have a very good ending for us … that I can assure you," during a speech at a Michigan manufacturing plant

On February 7 Trump Tweeted "Just had a long and very good conversation by phone with President Xi of China. He is strong, sharp and powerfully focused on leading the counterattack on the Coronavirus. He feels they are doing very well, even building hospitals in a matter of only days. Nothing is easy, but......he will be successful, especially as the weather starts to warm & the virus hopefully becomes weaker, and then gone. Great discipline is taking place in China, as President Xi strongly leads what will be a very successful operation. We are working closely with China to help!"

On February 10 Trump said "I had a long talk with President Xi — for the people in this room — two nights ago, and he feels very confident. He feels very confident. And he feels that, again, as I mentioned, by April or during the month of April, the heat, generally speaking, kills this kind of virus," the president said during a White House meeting with governors.

On February 23 Trump said "We're very much involved. We're very — very cognizant of everything going on. We have it very much under control in this country," he told reporters in response to a question about whether he had been updated on the coronavirus.

On February 24 Trump Tweeted "The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!"

On February 26 Trump said "I want you to understand something that shocked me when I saw it that — and I spoke with Dr. Fauci on this, and I was really amazed, and I think most people are amazed to hear it: The flu, in our country, kills from 25,000 people to 69,000 people a year. That was shocking to me. And, so far, if you look at what we have with the 15 people and their recovery, one is — one is pretty sick but hopefully will recover, but the others are in great shape. But think of that: 25,000 to 69,000. ... "And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done," during a Coronavirus Task Force Press briefing at the White House

On February 27 Trump said "It's going to disappear. One day it's like a miracle, it will disappear," during a White House meeting with African-American leaders

On February 29 Trump said "And we've done a great job. And I've gotten to know these professionals. They're incredible. And everything is under control. I mean, they're very, very cool. They've done it, and they've done it well. Everything is really under control." at CPAC

and on and on it goes. The man screwed this up royally.

How about stop living in the past and produce updated information. Things have changed on a daily basis. Providing this time line lacks context and sais nothing.

 

[ecofarm]

How about stop living in the past and produce updated information. Things have changed on a daily basis. Providing this time line lacks context and sais nothing.

No. Your pathetic apology for the worst President ever lacks context and says nothing.

 

[Mongidig]

That claim is stupid beyond all comparison. We gotta go to Giuliani to find something that stupid.

The US would not be praised for 30,000 deaths in one month resulting from the President politicizing the virus.

You're clearly ignoring the rest of the story. Had New York done it's job we may have had only 5,000 deaths. Had China done it's job this whole pandemic would never have happened. I realize you all aren't allowed to mention that. I also notice how it's all about death counts for you people. I rarely if ever hear you folks talking about the economic affects of this virus. It's all about the death. It's all half truths and out of context statements.

 

[CharisRose]

News media, liberals mock conservatives for early pandemic comments they made themselves
Analysis of three months of public comments shows health officials, liberals and media personalities made comments similar to conservatives now being mocked.



The leftist media and their double standards... :lol:

Oxiris Barbot, New York City health commissioner: “We are encouraging New Yorkers to go about their everyday lives and suggest practicing everyday precautions that we do through the flu season.”44

2019 novel coronavirus update: Keep calm and wash your hands – School of Public Health

Associated Press, CDC and World Health Organization (WHO): “The virus is still much less widespread than annual flu epidemics, which cause up to 5 million severe cases around the world and up to 650,000 deaths annually, according to the WHO."

As virus cases near 100,000, fear of 'devastation' for poor | WJAR

NPR, Allison Aubrey: "Worried about catching the new coronavirus? In the U.S., the flu is a bigger threat."
Buzzfeed, Dan Vergano: "Don’t worry about the coronavirus, worry about the flu."

Thread by @SharylAttkisson, They left off a few folks. Wonder why? & it turns out [...]

Axios, Bob Herman: Why we panic about coronavirus but not the flu. “If you’re freaking out about coronavirus but you didn’t get a flu shot, you’ve got it backwards."

The new coronavirus is serious. So is the flu - Axios

Daily Beast, Michael Daly: "The virus killing kids [flu] isn’t the one dominating headlines."
Sharyl Attkisson��️* @SharylAttkisson Timeline, The Visualized Twitter (Analytics)

The Washington Post, Lenny Bernstein: "Get a Grippe, America. The flu is a much bigger threat than coronavirus, for now."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/heal...a15166-4444-11ea-b5fc-eefa848cde99_story.html

The Washington Post, "Why we should be wary of the aggressive government response to coronavirus."

https://twitter.com/SharylAttkisson/status/1246950329872257030

eta: links added

Thanks for the information to set the record straight.

To bad some in the media haven’t called it... “like it really is” but have called it like they “wished it was”... “The orange man killed thousands via incompetence!”

Roseann

 

[ecofarm]

You're clearly ignoring the rest of the story. Had New York done it's job we may have had only 5,000 deaths. Had China done it's job this whole pandemic would never have happened. I realize you all aren't allowed to mention that. I also notice how it's all about death counts for you people. I rarely if ever hear you folks talking about the economic affects of this virus. It's all about the death. It's all half truths and out of context statements.

Let's try it slow.


No one. Absolutely no one under any circumstances. Would be praising 30,000 American deaths in April.

Do you get it?