Is this a girl?

[dixon01767]

Clarification on terms.

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You confirmed what I said about being gender fluid and then added something about hermaphrodites and non binary that I said nothing about.

 

[dixon01767]

Nope. If the society and family accepts the way a transgender child is, there is no distress. And they can still get the blockers.

Nonsense. Psychiatry and medical science doesn't prescribe hormones and radical surgeries unless people are suffering from some ailment. You and these clinics are operating under the pre 2013 APA guidelines. Coincidently which I agree with in that anyone who thinks they are the opposite gender of the one their genitals reveals, is suffering from a mental disorder in need of treatment.

 

[maquiscat]

You confirmed what I said about being gender fluid and then added something about hermaphrodites and non binary that I said nothing about.

You said:

Gender fluid is transgendered when the opposite of ones biological sex is identified with.

That seems to imply that gender fluid and transgendered are the same thing. Unless you are saying that a gender fluid person is transgender part time?

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[dixon01767]

What are we calling dramatic? Going from one to two might not be dramatic, but it is a doubling of use so that could be dramatic. What's our context here?

Yes the doubling of the use of hormone blockers would be called dramatic. Lets see ANY evidence you have to indicate there has been ANY reduction in their use for M to F. ANYTHING other than an INCREASE in their use.

 

[AProudLefty]

Nonsense. Psychiatry and medical science doesn't prescribe hormones and radical surgeries unless people are suffering from some ailment. You and these clinics are operating under the pre 2013 APA guidelines. Coincidently which I agree with in that anyone who thinks they are the opposite gender of the one their genitals reveals, is suffering from a mental disorder in need of treatment.

"Gender nonconformity is not the same thing as gender dysphoria,[5] and the American Psychiatric Association states that "gender nonconformity is not in itself a mental disorder."

Perhaps you need to read more.

 

[dixon01767]

You said:




That seems to imply that gender fluid and transgendered are the same thing. Unless you are saying that a gender fluid person is transgender part time?

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You should address what I write as opposed to what I "seem to apply". And the gender fluid ARE considered to be transgendered.

 

[maquiscat]

Yes the doubling of the use of hormone blockers would be called dramatic. Lets see ANY evidence you have to indicate there has been ANY reduction in their use for M to F. ANYTHING other than an INCREASE in their use.

From one person to two people is doubling, so would you still consider that dramatic? That's why I was asking for context. And you seem to have ignored the whole second part of that post.

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[dixon01767]

From one person to two people is doubling, so would you still consider that dramatic? That's why I was asking for context. And you seem to have ignored the whole second part of that post.

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Lets asume my charactrization of dramatic is hyperbole, since its irrelevant. An increase by even one refutes your silly assertion being debated here.

 

[dixon01767]

Lets asume my charactrization of dramatic is hyperbole, since its irrelevant. An increase by even one refutes your silly assertion being debated here.

Lets call it a "rapid increase" instead.

The Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health has asked its committee of experts to look at the ethics around the rapid increase in the use of hormone blockers to treat under-16s who identify as transgender.
Use of puberty blockers on transgender children to be investigated | News | The Times

Lets see your evidence that in fact for M -F the use has actually decreased instead.

 

[dixon01767]

. And you seem to have ignored the whole second part of that post.

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Your distractions from the relevant. Yes when used for M-F the victim is left with a little tiny prepubescent penis that doesn't even contain enough material to make the artificial vagina. And this hasn't phased them a bit. They continue on advocating rapidly increasing rates of use of hormone blockers for M-F boys.

 

[dixon01767]

"Gender nonconformity is not the same thing as gender dysphoria,[5] and the American Psychiatric Association states that "gender nonconformity is not in itself a mental disorder."

Perhaps you need to read more.

Correct. And psychiatry and medical science doesn't prescribe hormone blockers to someone who is nonconforming so I cant imagine any relevance of your point to the debate.

 

[AProudLefty]

Correct. And psychiatry and medical science doesn't prescribe hormone blockers to someone who is nonconforming so I cant imagine any relevance of your point to the debate.

Sighs. You claimed that it's a mental illness. Next time try to follow the conversation and logic carefully.

 

[dixon01767]

Sighs. You claimed that it's a mental illness.

No I didn't. Feel free to quote my post where I did to show us you are not full of ****.

 

[AProudLefty]

No I didn't. Feel free to quote my post where I did to show us you are not full of ****.

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" I agree with in that anyone who thinks they are the opposite gender of the one their genitals reveals, is suffering from a mental disorder in need of treatment."

 

[dixon01767]

"Gender nonconformity is not the same thing as gender dysphoria,[5] and the American Psychiatric Association states that "gender nonconformity is not in itself a mental disorder."

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Correct. And psychiatry and medical science doesn't prescribe hormone blockers to someone who is nonconforming so I cant imagine any relevance of your point to the debate.

Sighs. You claimed that it's a mental illness. Next time try to follow the conversation and logic carefully.

No I didn't. Feel free to quote my post where I did to show us you are not full of ****.

Post #277
" I agree with in that anyone who thinks they are the opposite gender of the one their genitals reveals, is suffering from a mental disorder in need of treatment."

Your and THE topic of debate is regarding gender nonconformity NOT transgendered. You are still full of it.

 

[rocket88]

Why does it bother anybody? Seriously, how are they hurting you? Did you jack off to a trans person or something?

 

[AProudLefty]

Your and THE topic of debate is regarding gender nonconformity NOT transgendered. You are still full of it.

Nope. YOU made the claim that transgenderism/GID is a mental disorder. A distress is not a mental disorder. Are you mentally ill if you feel distress from your parents pressuring you into being who you are not?

 

[maquiscat]

Lets asume my charactrization of dramatic is hyperbole, since its irrelevant. An increase by even one refutes your silly assertion being debated here.

Which silly assertion would that be? I've made several supposedly such assertions.

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[zimmer]

Why does it bother anybody? Seriously, how are they hurting you? Did you jack off to a trans person or something?

Here we have a Leftist at the peak of their game.

I love freedom of speech. It reveals the Left in all their glory!!! Well done rocket88... please post often.

 

[rocket88]

Here we have a Leftist at the peak of their game.

I love freedom of speech. It reveals the Left in all their glory!!! Well done rocket88... please post often.

Didn't answer the question though.

The right at the top of their gane, dodge, deflect , deny, and dodge.

 

[zimmer]

Didn't answer the question though.

The right at the top of their gane, dodge, deflect , deny, and dodge.

I know you didn’t answer the question.

Leftists rarely do when confronted by answers they want to give, but realize are absurd when exposed to public scrutiny.

It’s why my polls are binary... so Leftists are forced to answer... yet they, like you, try like hell to slither.

 

[rocket88]

I know you didn’t answer the question.

Leftists rarely do when confronted by answers they want to give, but realize are absurd when exposed to public scrutiny.

It’s why my polls are binary... so Leftists are forced to answer... yet they, like you, try like hell to slither.

You answer mine and I'll answer yours. A child is too young to make a good call on it. Either parent trying to push one or the other on the child is not doing a good job.

 

[dixon01767]

Nope. YOU made the claim that transgenderism/GID is a mental disorder.

Two different debates. Yes, I and these clinics adhere to the pre 2013 definitions from the APA.

 

[dixon01767]

Which silly assertion would that be? I've made several supposedly such assertions.

Same one weve been debating since Friday.

Hormone blockers seem to be swinging back around to a no go, especially for MtF,

 

[dixon01767]

Same one weve been debating since Friday.

Yeah, you wont even try to support the **** you spew here.