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Is Obama the last Black POTUS we'll see in our lifetime?

I believe Obama will be the last Black POTUS we'll see in our lifetimes.

Why?

Because of the way he 'slipped' into office. Because of what he has done and not done in office. Because of how his campaign has behaved in this re-election bid. And because of how his administration and re-election campaign has divided this nation.

So, bottom line, enjoy it while you have it, Obama fans.

He's the last African American that White voters will take a chance on for a loooooong time.

well if a qualified black candidate came along I'd surely vote for him

but Obama won because he was black not despite the fact he was black and his failures might well convince many PC or guilt ridden white hand wringing weenies that the next time an unqualified black runs they should not vote for him or her out of the novelty of proving to themselves that they are not racists

Obama is incompetent and he should not tar future black candidates with his incompetence anymore than white southern governors (W for example) should have been tainted by the complete incompetence of Jimmy carter
 
Blah blah.. Is there any bit of substance to any one of your posts? Flag me if you may, but I'm getting sick of people spewing nonsense and all this marxist crap when they dont even know what the hell it means.. Faked charges of racism.. believe me it is alive and kicking where I live, and I'm guessing southern wisconsin is not the only bastion of racist hate still left in this country..

Keep kickin that ole' bucket of "reverse racism".. it only makes one look like a dumbass...

Will you be the LAST one on your block to be made aware of the revelations of the film, "2016: Obama's America"?
 
well if a qualified black candidate came along I'd surely vote for him

but Obama won because he was black not despite the fact he was black and his failures might well convince many PC or guilt ridden white hand wringing weenies that the next time an unqualified black runs they should not vote for him or her out of the novelty of proving to themselves that they are not racists

Obama is incompetent and he should not tar future black candidates with his incompetence anymore than white southern governors (W for example) should have been tainted by the complete incompetence of Jimmy carter

Some believe he's incompetent. But what if he is carrying out his plans EXACTLY to a "T"?

The is an argument to be made that the latter is the case.
 
Some believe he's incompetent. But what if he is carrying out his plans EXACTLY to a "T"?

The is an argument to be made that the latter is the case.

true, he might be here to totally screw over america. if that is the case he is doing a good job
 
I believe Obama will be the last Black POTUS we'll see in our lifetimes.

I hope not. There's plenty of black men I would vote for. I would just hope they were his ideological opposite, and have good character, and would not be intentionally divisive. We've had plenty of that already.
 
You expect him to elect himself to a third term by executive order? I guess I could see him trying ;)

Jokes aside, the OP is idiocy. President Obama's skin color is irrelevant. Several idiots exist who might vote against him out of asinine racism. Several idiots will vote for him because of his skin color (though far fewer than some partisans claim).

I really think we've come far enough that the skin color is a minor factor and that, if another black man runs, we can tell the difference.

LOLOL

You give your fellow voter's powers of discernment undue credit.

They failed to see through his B.S. in 2008 and MILLIONS STILL haven't seen the light.

So what makes you think they'd be any more discerning if a smooth talking, good looking candidate, let's imagine he is a Muslim, comes along again?

And, speaking of CREDIT...not much has been made of this country's lowered credit rating during Obama's term in office.

Could it be the media is afraid of even going THERE?

Mentioning bad credit and a Black POTUS in the same sentence might get a journalist in trouble. LOL
 
LOLOL

You give your fellow voter's powers of discernment undue credit.

They failed to see through his B.S. in 2008 and MILLIONS STILL haven't seen the light.

So what makes you think they'd be any more discerning if a smooth talking, good looking candidate, let's imagine he is a Muslim, comes along again?

And, speaking of CREDIT...not much has been made of this country's lowered credit rating during Obama's term in office.

Could it be the media is afraid of even going THERE?

Mentioning bad credit and a Black POTUS in the same sentence might get a journalist in trouble. LOL

Can you demonstrate the causal relationship between his skin color and his election to office or between his skin color and our credit rating?
 
true, he might be here to totally screw over america. if that is the case he is doing a good job

I guess you could think that, if by "screwing over America" you mean fixing the colossal cluster**** that Bush and Republicans projectile vomited on the country when they had their chance.
 
LOLOL

You give your fellow voter's powers of discernment undue credit.

They failed to see through his B.S. in 2008 and MILLIONS STILL haven't seen the light.

So what makes you think they'd be any more discerning if a smooth talking, good looking candidate, let's imagine he is a Muslim, comes along again?

And, speaking of CREDIT...not much has been made of this country's lowered credit rating during Obama's term in office.

Could it be the media is afraid of even going THERE?

Mentioning bad credit and a Black POTUS in the same sentence might get a journalist in trouble. LOL

Says the fellow who's pimping the political reincarnation of George W. "Shrub" Bush. :lamo
 
Says the fellow who's pimping the political reincarnation of George W. "Shrub" Bush. :lamo

I think you are reading the thread wrong. He's not actually pimping Obama. In fact, I think he's kind of negative on our current President.
 
I think you are reading the thread wrong. He's not actually pimping Obama. In fact, I think he's kind of negative on our current President.

Oh you are so clever -- look how you turned that around!

:roll:
 
Obama is half white.

Thread fail!!!!!!

Would that be his left half or his right half?

I will take your comments as the tongue-in-cheek they appear. However, there are enough people that have made these comments without realizing what that reveal about the commentator.

Sorry, this "half-black" stuff is about the most racist garbage that has been suggested over the past couple of years. For generations, our nation applied the "one-drop" rule as the definition of being "black" (one drop of black blood means your are black). It seems to me that any criteria that could subject you to slavery in the 1800s, should also allow for a prima facie argument you are not black.

Black people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Mixed Race America - Who Is Black? One Nation's Definition | Jefferson's Blood | FRONTLINE | PBS

There is no question that Obama is our first black president. Anyone that would give serious credence to an argument that in anyway diminishes that fact is a clearly obsessed with the racial aspect of this and thus a racist.
 
Will you be the LAST one on your block to be made aware of the revelations of the film, "2016: Obama's America"?

I wouldn't even go within 2 miles of a theater playing that partisan hack-job of a "Film"
 
Can you demonstrate the causal relationship between his skin color and his election to office or between his skin color and our credit rating?

Goldang!!! Just try to think like a normal, rational, responsible citizen who has voted in other presidential elections before 2008. Now, compare Obama's qualifications and history (at least what little we knew about it in 08) to those of ANY...ANY...ANY previous Democrat or GOP nominee. Now ask yourself how in the hell Obama could have POSSIBLY won without a combination of a weak challenger AND a significant number of voters who voted their own White guilt or their own racist, er, racial 'pride.'

As far as the credit thing, I was just throwing that into the comedy pot that is the laughable Obama record of performance.
 
I wouldn't even go within 2 miles of a theater playing that partisan hack-job of a "Film"

No one has disputed any of the facts in it. Know why?

BECAUSE IT IS NARRATED BY BARACK OBAMA IN HIS OWN VOICE!

So, you can't debunk it as easily as you just tried to.

The truth will set you free. Free from that third world, anti-colonialist, pro-Communist ideology of his which has made you, literally, a rebel without a (worthy) cause.
 
I guess you could think that, if by "screwing over America" you mean fixing the colossal cluster**** that Bush and Republicans projectile vomited on the country when they had their chance.

If you were half as politically aware as you'd like to be thought (or if you were an honest player) you'd know (or admit that you knew) that GWB repeatedly warned of the unwavering support the damned dems were giving Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae which led to the recession.

So, bottom line, Barney Frank and Chris Dodd were MUCH more responsible for the economic disaster that resulted than anything W either did or didn't do.

Google it and try to prove me wrong.

Or don't bother, because you can't prove me wrong.
 
If you were half as politically aware as you'd like to be thought (or if you were an honest player) you'd know (or admit that you knew) that GWB repeatedly warned of the unwavering support the damned dems were giving Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae which led to the recession.

So, bottom line, Barney Frank and Chris Dodd were MUCH more responsible for the economic disaster that resulted than anything W either did or didn't do.

Google it and try to prove me wrong.

Or don't bother, because you can't prove me wrong.

Of course he can. Fannie and Freddie had very little to do with the recession.

Fannie and Freddie don’t deserve blame for bubble - The Washington Post

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2008/10/12/53802/private-sector-loans-not-fannie.html

Fact is, Fannie and Freddie were not allowed to buy the sub-prime mortgage loans that caused most of the bubble because they did not live up to the strict rules that govern Fannie and Freddie. Since the crisis started, both under Bush and Obama, those "rules" have been bent to save the private banking sector by allowing large chunks of bad sub-prime mortgage debt to be sold on cents on the dollar to Fannie and Freddie.

So blaming Fannie and Freddie is exactly the GOP talking points that were sent out just as the crisis hit and the GOP realized that it was their failed policies on deregulation and lazzie-fair leadership under Bush that caused the bubble and burst it. It is nothing but the usual GOP crap on running from responsibility and accountability.

But aint this kinda wayyy off topic?
 
Goldang!!! Just try to think like a normal, rational, responsible citizen who has voted in other presidential elections before 2008. Now, compare Obama's qualifications and history (at least what little we knew about it in 08) to those of ANY...ANY...ANY previous Democrat or GOP nominee. Now ask yourself how in the hell Obama could have POSSIBLY won without a combination of a weak challenger AND a significant number of voters who voted their own White guilt or their own racist, er, racial 'pride.'

As far as the credit thing, I was just throwing that into the comedy pot that is the laughable Obama record of performance.

Well for one thing Obama's qualifications weren't that different than the other two real candidates in 2008, so it isn't like he beat two much more qualified candidates than himself in the primary. He actually had more years in elected office than Edwards or Clinton. And as for the general election, any Democratic candidate would've won. The country was overwhelmingly Democratic at that point, and it wasn't due to Obama as the 2006 midterms showed.
 
I just don't think you really understand the history of this country, or the psychology driving it.

George W. Bush, failed the United States of America, unlike most President's have in the history of our Republic. The fact that Dick Cheney, was sitting in a secure room during 911, taking verbal input from a "Young Man" running back and forth into Cheney's physical presence, calling out time and distance on an and aircraft that the FAA lost and NORAD could not find, is proof positive that the Administration at that time was corrupt beyond imagination and knew something about 911 before it happened. Couple that fact with the other fact, that Bush, had no domestic agenda at all and basically pulled the trigger on sending the nation over an economic cliff, with what amounted to be a $3 trillion war effort overseas for oil that did not belong to us - that makes Bush, something the American People wanted to get rid of and replace with something completely different.

Change is exactly what they got - despite the rhetoric from those who inaccurately preach that Obama is a third Bush term - that's just simply false.

Electing Obama, had everything to do with his tenacity as a Candidate for President and his massage of change and hope - at a time when the country was doing nothing less than literally falling apart at the seams, and when McCain had basically announced that he did not know much about "economic issues" and after selecting as his running mate, a person who was so incredibly incompetent, that it embarrassed even the core Republican Party initially, until they realized that they had to finally get on-board and support that which they were not all that fired-up about supporting.


Candidate Obama, on the campaign trail, spent a huge amount of time talking to the American People about his new vision for an Economy that was based in Clean & Renewable Energy Technologies and making sure that the United States became the leader in exporting new energy technology throughout the world, while having and maintaining the most educated population, ready, able and willing to take on the challenges of a new energy technology world. The VAST majority of that campaign thrust got hammered to the back seat, when the 2008 economic implosion became a reality and TARP/Stimulus took over the President's primary focus.

I am certain that we would be well on our way towards building that new energy technology based economy, had the 2008 economic implosion never happened. This is the background story about Obama's Presidency that nobody is talking about. He had a revolutionary agenda for how to move our economy into the future, but the vast majority of that got shocked out of existence with the onset of the great recession.

Now, the money is spent on recovery - instead of building a new economy. But, nobody wants to be honest enough to talk about that fact. This President was not a Socialist - he was one of the few visionaries running for the White House, that we've ever had. Only President Kennedy, talked about the Space Program ("putting a man on the moon in this decade and the other thing...") with the same amount of vigor that this President talked about a New Energy Economy that thrust the country into the lead on exports and technology patents.

Such an economy would have been huge. We would have produced a huge surplus of jobs in this country and we would have been forced to recruit people from other countries, just to help us build-out our new clean and renewable energy based economy - mostly because we would not have been able to graduate enough Engineers, Scientists and Technicians to keep pace with growth.

Somehow, his vision has not been remembered, even by those who supported him in 2008. It is an absolute shame - that he gets a bad wrap given the facts. Mostly because people remember what they want to remember and when things get tough, they often times don't retain their intellectual honesty. But, the fact of the matter is that this President had a very Bold Economic Agenda that would a have sparked tens of millions of new technology jobs.

How soon we forget.

Take a breath man. You gotta take a break from chugging the Kool-Aid sometimes. This entire post is ridiculous with no backing. You automatically dissuade anyone from believing you with your truther opinions. LOL. Ridiculous. Then you proceed to post, essentially, what Pres Obama wanted to say to Gov Romney but what he knew would come across as whining. The reason he didnt say it is because it is whining. You need to get off the campaign trail for awhile (because you have to be a Obama/Biden 12 campaign worker with this crap) and research the facts. The fact of the matter is that Pres Obama knew what he was walking into. He stated numerous times that he knew he was walking into the worst economy since the Great Depression. Then, he proceeds to say it's worse than he thought. So, I guess we were in the Great Depression again if that's the case. Anyway, his answer to that is to spend a lot of money on Green Energy (even though you act as thought he didnt) that really did nothing for the economy, sign into law a healthcare bill that didn't do anything for the economy, and double down on a war that should have ended a long time ago. According to you, Pres Bush went into Iraq for oil. So why did Pres Obama double down on A'Stan? At least we could get SOMETHING out of Iraq. What does A'Stan offer? Opium? I would respect Pres Obama if he had pulled us out of A'Stan. I would respect him a lot actually. I wouldn't vote for him, but I guarantee you wouldn't see me on here criticizing him nearly as much if he has pulled us out of there. He knew the right thing to do there. He knew we shouldn't be there. He sent more troops anyway for political gain. Shame on him.
 
wake's thrilled racism is highly salient here. Its sad to see people make decisions on such intellectually shallow and faulty grounds.
 
Goldang!!! Just try to think like a normal, rational, responsible citizen who has voted in other presidential elections before 2008. Now, compare Obama's qualifications and history (at least what little we knew about it in 08) to those of ANY...ANY...ANY previous Democrat or GOP nominee. Now ask yourself how in the hell Obama could have POSSIBLY won without a combination of a weak challenger AND a significant number of voters who voted their own White guilt or their own racist, er, racial 'pride.'

As far as the credit thing, I was just throwing that into the comedy pot that is the laughable Obama record of performance.

Obama had a good sales pitch, Bush's record to run against, and McCain for an opponent. He didn't need race. I'm sure it was a factor and know it mattered to a lot of my black friends, but I don't buy that he was elected by white guilt. The President was smart enough not to run on his own record and history, he ran on a sales pitch and that did the trick for him.
 
I guess you could think that, if by "screwing over America" you mean fixing the colossal cluster**** that Bush and Republicans projectile vomited on the country when they had their chance.

Of course he can. Fannie and Freddie had very little to do with the recession.

Fannie and Freddie don’t deserve blame for bubble - The Washington Post

Private sector loans, not Fannie or Freddie, triggered crisis | McClatchy

Fact is, Fannie and Freddie were not allowed to buy the sub-prime mortgage loans that caused most of the bubble because they did not live up to the strict rules that govern Fannie and Freddie. Since the crisis started, both under Bush and Obama, those "rules" have been bent to save the private banking sector by allowing large chunks of bad sub-prime mortgage debt to be sold on cents on the dollar to Fannie and Freddie.

So blaming Fannie and Freddie is exactly the GOP talking points that were sent out just as the crisis hit and the GOP realized that it was their failed policies on deregulation and lazzie-fair leadership under Bush that caused the bubble and burst it. It is nothing but the usual GOP crap on running from responsibility and accountability.

But aint this kinda wayyy off topic?

Several things came together to cause the problems. First was Gramm/Leach/Bliley in '98 that allowed commercial banks to get involved in mortgages and standard banks practices. Second was the act in 2000 that deregulated derivatives and legalized credit default swaps as a financial instrument. Third was a cheap fiscal policy--CRA is included in that mix but is far from the only culprit. Now keep in mind ALL of these were passed with bipartisan backing. Its not the GOP or Dems, its the establishment dickbags playing quid pro quo with wall street and commercial banking on BOTH sides of the aisle that got us into this.

The far left and the far right wings of both parties were against these measures. Bipartisanship is not always a good thing.
 
wake's thrilled racism is highly salient here. Its sad to see people make decisions on such intellectually shallow and faulty grounds.

You are speaking, specifically and predominantly, to and about White Liberals. You know that, right?
 
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