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Is Obama the last Black POTUS we'll see in our lifetime?

Your presumption is that all major news media is engaged in a secret conspiracy to promote Democrats and harm Republicans. This doesn't seem very realistic to me since at least some of the news media is owned by right-leaning leadership.

Maybe - but highly unlikely.

not maybe.. it happened.. if Obama was vetted he would have been destroyed... we are now seeing how much of a lunatic radical empty suit, Rev Wright divider and agitator loser he always has been.... I think because he wrote those books of how much of loser he was that the Dems felt they had to over cover who he was and did a great job of spinning every drill down on Obamas insanly radical past as "conspiracy... ".... just the sheer mention of the facts on his uncle Odinga is enough to have this thread go bonkers... idf bet 80% of Obama voters had no idea who Odinga even was before voting last time and 70% today still dont... and Obamas use of his time with him as a senator in Kenya campaining on tax payer money for Odinga...its endless...
 
No, the time to have done THAT was in 2008. Make no mistake about it. He was elected because of his color.

What a stupid, stupid statement. The man was elected because John McCain SUCKED. President Obama laid it out there that he was A) An extreme leftist B) A borderline socialist C) Had no direct plans to implement anything he said he would. The guy won because John McCain is walking corpse who has no clue how to debate anyone, had no new ideas that were any different from the previous President, and was the typical Republican. Old, no energy, a neo-con. A typical noob who has no facts to back his statement and assumes that because the inhabitants of his trailer park think something everyone else does too.
 
Like a said....a seriously flawed premise. Does that mean that we won't see another white male elected after the mess that GWB left this country in?

Nature abhors a vacuum, so watch out that it doesn't discover that void between your ears.

GWB was not the first to break the "white male in the presidency" barrier. You have used this little meme at least twice - so you must think it has validity, and that is a sad commentary on your intelligence. Once could be forgiven as an unfortunate thought escaping a normal screening process in your mind - I have even posted really dumb stuff before - but I had the good sense to not go around repeating it, thinking it was valid.

You, my friend, should be embarrassed.
 
I do believe that Obama's malfeasance has cast a shadow over succeeding black candidates.


This is a great shame. The GOP has a lot of really qualified blacks who would make great POTUS, but will probably not get the chance because of the disaster that is Barack Hussein Obama.

Yeah, I can totally see it now. "I didn't used to be racist, but after Obama's term, I became prejudiced against all black presidential candidates. Its Obama's fault that a tolerant guy like me turned into a hateful bigot"

Hint: Anyone who is biased against black presidential candidates is racist trash and the only person who deserves blame is the idiot who chose to become prejudiced of their own free will. The fact you believe that such a reaction is natural and even try and defend it shows what kind of person you truly are.
 
He was a better campaigner. His race might've played a part in the primaries, but Obama ran a much better primary campaign than Hillary Clinton did.

I can agree that he campaigns well - but I disagree that his campaign was better than Hillary's.

At the time I genuinely disliked Hillary and followed the campaign rather closely. I actually (at that time) wanted Obama to win - precisely because I knew almost nothing about him and "assumed" he had undergone the typical vetting of anyone in successful politics today. At the time, I wanted him to be nominated and my reason was that "even if he has a better chance to defeat the GOP nominee, I think he would be able to do less harm than Hillary would do."

I really feared the liberal policies that Hillary would pursue. Little did I know that Obama is 100x worse than I feared Hillary would be.

And after the election, I felt that he did have a chance to be a transformational president in race relations. My reasoning was that he had succeeded. He could be an inspiration to the black community to aspire to something better than they had in the past 5 decades.

It was precisely because he was black that I had that positive thought about him. Alas, he turned out to be nothing more than a typical race-baiting rabble rouser.

That is when I became severely disappointed in him. His anti-American policies, and ineffectual leadership just added to my dislike of him. That had nothing at all to do with his race.
 
Yeah, I can totally see it now. "I didn't used to be racist, but after Obama's term, I became prejudiced against all black presidential candidates. Its Obama's fault that a tolerant guy like me turned into a hateful bigot"

Hint: Anyone who is biased against black presidential candidates is racist trash and the only person who deserves blame is the idiot who chose to become prejudiced of their own free will. The fact you believe that such a reaction is natural and even try and defend it shows what kind of person you truly are.

Was reading comprehension a required topic at your school? Apparently not.

Take your incomprehensible conclusion and stick it where the sun don't shine.
 
So, if Hillary Clinton or John Edwards (before the scandal broke out) were nominated would they have lost?

Edwards would have lost.

Hillary would have won.
 
Edwards would have lost.

Hillary would have won.

What makes you think that? Democrats didn't only win the Presidency but swept the competitive Senate races and made huge gains in the House. This two years after doing the same thing. What makes you think Edwards wouldn't have been able to win with conditions like that.
 
What a stupid, stupid statement. The man was elected because John McCain SUCKED. President Obama laid it out there that he was A) An extreme leftist B) A borderline socialist C) Had no direct plans to implement anything he said he would. The guy won because John McCain is walking corpse who has no clue how to debate anyone, had no new ideas that were any different from the previous President, and was the typical Republican. Old, no energy, a neo-con. A typical noob who has no facts to back his statement and assumes that because the inhabitants of his trailer park think something everyone else does too.

I agree that McCain just couldnt articulate ... such a shame as he is truly a great man.. a hero.
 
I agree that McCain just couldnt articulate ... such a shame as he is truly a great man.. a hero.

There are a lot of great men running around. Quite a few hero's as well. But that doesn't mean they should be POTUS. I know you weren't saying he should have been though. I'm just making the point.
 
Cory Booker is the one Democrat, (besides maybe Jay Nixon), who I'd seriously consider voting for president at some point. I don't really agree with him as much as I'd agree with a generic Republican, but I believe that his attitude and his philosophy are something I could see myself getting behind.

I agree - I like his attitude. He's articulate, intelligent, educated and has an uncanny ability to absorb information rapidly and then come to a reasoned conclusion. But, most importantly, I like his demeanor. There's honesty in his body language. You can tell that he really cares about his country and everyone of its citizens (left or right). There's a decency about him as well, that you don't often find in politicians.

But, he'll need some real Foreign Policy seasoning that goes beyond what he already knows about Israel and Palestine. He's got a good framework and understanding about the Israel/Palestine issue, but he needs a broader Foreign Policy body of knowledge. Where and how he goes about obtaining that real-world education, I don't know quite frankly.

One theory of progress could be that after Obama's second term, Hilary Clinton, decides to run for President in 2016. I have always said that if Hilary, decides that she wants the Presidency in 2016, that she would be a virtual shoe-in and as close to an automatic two-term President that you could find. I say that because the level of enthusiasm that would be behind her from her base and much of the Independent ranks, would be epic - given the historic election of Obama, as the nation's first Black President. Having Hilary, come "next" would be too much of an historic "roll" for Democrats not to flood with support - just on the historic merit alone.

If that happened, then Cory, would then have a justification for stepping down in New Jersey, for some kind of Clinton Administration position that gives him both the Foreign Policy experience he needs, as well as the White House/Congress exposure that will help to make him effective in his job as President. He would then have eight (8) years of behind the scenes "executive" level governance experience to put with what is already a good leadership foundation that he's built thus far.

After that - I'd support him for President, because I think he would have the level of Presidential Competence that I look for in a serious Candidate.
 
What makes you think that? Democrats didn't only win the Presidency but swept the competitive Senate races and made huge gains in the House. This two years after doing the same thing. What makes you think Edwards wouldn't have been able to win with conditions like that.

I sold cars for more than 10 years and I never felt Edwards had the character Hillary does.
 
I sold cars for more than 10 years and I never felt Edwards had the character Hillary does.

He wouldn't have to. I think anyone with a D after their name would've won in 2008 regardless of their race.
 
And the majority of voters did not have that ability in 2008 and many do not have that ability today, because it was hijacked by an over riding desire to right past wrongs by electing a Black candidate.


I just don't think you really understand the history of this country, or the psychology driving it.

George W. Bush, failed the United States of America, unlike most President's have in the history of our Republic. The fact that Dick Cheney, was sitting in a secure room during 911, taking verbal input from a "Young Man" running back and forth into Cheney's physical presence, calling out time and distance on an and aircraft that the FAA lost and NORAD could not find, is proof positive that the Administration at that time was corrupt beyond imagination and knew something about 911 before it happened. Couple that fact with the other fact, that Bush, had no domestic agenda at all and basically pulled the trigger on sending the nation over an economic cliff, with what amounted to be a $3 trillion war effort overseas for oil that did not belong to us - that makes Bush, something the American People wanted to get rid of and replace with something completely different.

Change is exactly what they got - despite the rhetoric from those who inaccurately preach that Obama is a third Bush term - that's just simply false.

Electing Obama, had everything to do with his tenacity as a Candidate for President and his massage of change and hope - at a time when the country was doing nothing less than literally falling apart at the seams, and when McCain had basically announced that he did not know much about "economic issues" and after selecting as his running mate, a person who was so incredibly incompetent, that it embarrassed even the core Republican Party initially, until they realized that they had to finally get on-board and support that which they were not all that fired-up about supporting.


Candidate Obama, on the campaign trail, spent a huge amount of time talking to the American People about his new vision for an Economy that was based in Clean & Renewable Energy Technologies and making sure that the United States became the leader in exporting new energy technology throughout the world, while having and maintaining the most educated population, ready, able and willing to take on the challenges of a new energy technology world. The VAST majority of that campaign thrust got hammered to the back seat, when the 2008 economic implosion became a reality and TARP/Stimulus took over the President's primary focus.

I am certain that we would be well on our way towards building that new energy technology based economy, had the 2008 economic implosion never happened. This is the background story about Obama's Presidency that nobody is talking about. He had a revolutionary agenda for how to move our economy into the future, but the vast majority of that got shocked out of existence with the onset of the great recession.

Now, the money is spent on recovery - instead of building a new economy. But, nobody wants to be honest enough to talk about that fact. This President was not a Socialist - he was one of the few visionaries running for the White House, that we've ever had. Only President Kennedy, talked about the Space Program ("putting a man on the moon in this decade and the other thing...") with the same amount of vigor that this President talked about a New Energy Economy that thrust the country into the lead on exports and technology patents.

Such an economy would have been huge. We would have produced a huge surplus of jobs in this country and we would have been forced to recruit people from other countries, just to help us build-out our new clean and renewable energy based economy - mostly because we would not have been able to graduate enough Engineers, Scientists and Technicians to keep pace with growth.

Somehow, his vision has not been remembered, even by those who supported him in 2008. It is an absolute shame - that he gets a bad wrap given the facts. Mostly because people remember what they want to remember and when things get tough, they often times don't retain their intellectual honesty. But, the fact of the matter is that this President had a very Bold Economic Agenda that would a have sparked tens of millions of new technology jobs.

How soon we forget.
 
I believe Obama will be the last Black POTUS we'll see in our lifetimes.

Why?

Because of the way he 'slipped' into office. Because of what he has done and not done in office. Because of how his campaign has behaved in this re-election bid. And because of how his administration and re-election campaign has divided this nation.

So, bottom line, enjoy it while you have it, Obama fans.

He's the last African American that White voters will take a chance on for a loooooong time.

I completely disagree with you. I would have voted for Colin Powell in a heartbeat. Still would.
 
He wouldn't have to. I think anyone with a D after their name would've won in 2008 regardless of their race.

You mean to say you don't think he would have needed to have character to win?

I guess I was saying I didn't think he had the character to perform the job well.

Hillary does.

I admire her despite her politics.
 
After the next 4 years there maybe a referendum to overturn the 2 term limit. Then Obama can win a 3rd time.

You expect him to elect himself to a third term by executive order? I guess I could see him trying ;)

Jokes aside, the OP is idiocy. President Obama's skin color is irrelevant. Several idiots exist who might vote against him out of asinine racism. Several idiots will vote for him because of his skin color (though far fewer than some partisans claim).

I really think we've come far enough that the skin color is a minor factor and that, if another black man runs, we can tell the difference.
 
I just don't think you really understand the history of this country, or the psychology driving it.

George W. Bush, failed the United States of America, unlike most President's have in the history of our Republic. The fact that Dick Cheney, was sitting in a secure room during 911, taking verbal input from a "Young Man" running back and forth into Cheney's physical presence, calling out time and distance on an and aircraft that the FAA lost and NORAD could not find, is proof positive that the Administration at that time was corrupt beyond imagination and knew something about 911 before it happened. Couple that fact with the other fact, that Bush, had no domestic agenda at all and basically pulled the trigger on sending the nation over an economic cliff, with what amounted to be a $3 trillion war effort overseas for oil that did not belong to us - that makes Bush, something the American People wanted to get rid of and replace with something completely different.

Change is exactly what they got - despite the rhetoric from those who inaccurately preach that Obama is a third Bush term - that's just simply false.

Electing Obama, had everything to do with his tenacity as a Candidate for President and his massage of change and hope - at a time when the country was doing nothing less than literally falling apart at the seams, and when McCain had basically announced that he did not know much about "economic issues" and after selecting as his running mate, a person who was so incredibly incompetent, that it embarrassed even the core Republican Party initially, until they realized that they had to finally get on-board and support that which they were not all that fired-up about supporting.


Candidate Obama, on the campaign trail, spent a huge amount of time talking to the American People about his new vision for an Economy that was based in Clean & Renewable Energy Technologies and making sure that the United States became the leader in exporting new energy technology throughout the world, while having and maintaining the most educated population, ready, able and willing to take on the challenges of a new energy technology world. The VAST majority of that campaign thrust got hammered to the back seat, when the 2008 economic implosion became a reality and TARP/Stimulus took over the President's primary focus.

I am certain that we would be well on our way towards building that new energy technology based economy, had the 2008 economic implosion never happened. This is the background story about Obama's Presidency that nobody is talking about. He had a revolutionary agenda for how to move our economy into the future, but the vast majority of that got shocked out of existence with the onset of the great recession.

Now, the money is spent on recovery - instead of building a new economy. But, nobody wants to be honest enough to talk about that fact. This President was not a Socialist - he was one of the few visionaries running for the White House, that we've ever had. Only President Kennedy, talked about the Space Program ("putting a man on the moon in this decade and the other thing...") with the same amount of vigor that this President talked about a New Energy Economy that thrust the country into the lead on exports and technology patents.

Such an economy would have been huge. We would have produced a huge surplus of jobs in this country and we would have been forced to recruit people from other countries, just to help us build-out our new clean and renewable energy based economy - mostly because we would not have been able to graduate enough Engineers, Scientists and Technicians to keep pace with growth.

Somehow, his vision has not been remembered, even by those who supported him in 2008. It is an absolute shame - that he gets a bad wrap given the facts. Mostly because people remember what they want to remember and when things get tough, they often times don't retain their intellectual honesty. But, the fact of the matter is that this President had a very Bold Economic Agenda that would a have sparked tens of millions of new technology jobs.

How soon we forget.

Truthers' opinions are suspect. Sorry, you lose. But thanks for playing.
 
I believe Obama will be the last Black POTUS we'll see in our lifetimes.

Why?

Because of the way he 'slipped' into office. Because of what he has done and not done in office. Because of how his campaign has behaved in this re-election bid. And because of how his administration and re-election campaign has divided this nation.

So, bottom line, enjoy it while you have it, Obama fans.

He's the last African American that White voters will take a chance on for a loooooong time.

What's interesting about this post is that its almost all conjecture with only one fact in it, Obama is black. Helluva focus you got there stormtrooper.
 
I hear ya.. Obama is the radical marxist trojan horse.. and the Libs knew they could fend off any vetting of him by using or hiding behind faked charges of racism against anyone who dared to find out about his uncle Odinga and his radical ties to BLT and Frank Marshal Davis etc..

so I agree, the next african american candidate will be treated as any other candidate from this point forward.. Obama was given a pass..

Blah blah.. Is there any bit of substance to any one of your posts? Flag me if you may, but I'm getting sick of people spewing nonsense and all this marxist crap when they dont even know what the hell it means.. Faked charges of racism.. believe me it is alive and kicking where I live, and I'm guessing southern wisconsin is not the only bastion of racist hate still left in this country..

Keep kickin that ole' bucket of "reverse racism".. it only makes one look like a dumbass...
 
What's interesting about this post is that its almost all conjecture with only one fact in it, Obama is black. Helluva focus you got there stormtrooper.

Stormtrooper???

Whatchoo talkin bout, Willis?!?
 
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