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In your lifetime, has any president sucked more than Trump does?

Captain America said:
With Trump's low approval ratings, are you one of the people in this article that still approve of him?
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Hahaha no.


How does this WaPo article relate to YOUR reality?
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Yes, Trump is off to an unpopular start.

That said, that doesn't determine the quality of a President's term. It is still far too early to make a determination on that.

What we can say is that he has accomplished very little, from a legislative perspective, in his first 100 days. He is likely to get something big passed sooner or later, but it gets harder as his term goes on, and 2018 elections get closer.
 
jimbo said:
There is that. Anybody who was forced to do any highway driving at 55 MPH and waiting in a blocks long line on even days for your 10 gallons of gas deserved a well made brewsky or 6 when they finally arrived at their destination.
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Using even/odd auto tags as a basis for gas rationing began during Nixon's 2nd term.
 
While Trump has done very little in his first 100 days, he's actually done a lot to evidence what his capabilities are, how he behaves, who he hires, how extensive his staff is, who and how many people want to serve in his administration, how the senate/house republicans view and work with him, how transparent he is, and most obviously, how honest he is. Among other things.
Notice how many things one can just rattle off the top of their head that are widespread "yellow flags" with regards to the most powerful executive in the nation.

Why is is internal staff still a skeleton crew? Where was his vetting process with Flynn and why the obstruction and shenaningans on the Russia investigation, how many things has he claimed in a Huge way, that turned out to be 100% false, and even better, that he actually claimed the opposite of not a few months or years later?

In that way, his lack of accomplishments is not some random blip on a tiny scale, it can just be a RESULT of all his various talents. And unless you think he's magically going to learn how to run a nation overnight, or even in months or a year or two, expecting that to change seems absurd.

Sure, Republicans may start working with him out of their own self interests, I mean, they do control both branches, and no doubt they can get some things passed...how could they not? But that will never be an indicator that Trump is effective in itself.

If this were a try before you buy scenario, I'd return Trump in a heartbeat. I would like to think a lot of Republicans would too, especially if it mean a more..traditional Republican would replace him.
 
justabubba said:
and you would be wrong

not long after Carter imposed the thermostat control program i played softball against him. got my wish to be on billy's team

The Jimmy Carter thermostat control program that saved about... - UPI Archives
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3oo,ooo barrels of fuel for an energy crisis..which was bunk, i don't pay the president to tell how i should behave

your love for playing on billys team clouded your judgment

carter was terrible president .and thats why America got rid of him.
 
Master PO said:
3oo,ooo barrels of fuel for an energy crisis..which was bunk, i don't pay the president to tell how i should behave
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that was 300,000 barrels of oil saved DAILY after the arab oil embargo
at a time when cars were lined up for blocks to fill their tanks
an era when your license plate ending in an odd or even number determined the day of the week you could buy gas

your love for playing on billys team clouded your judgment
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i was willing to play for billy beer, what can i say

carter was terrible president .and thats why America got rid of him.
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Carter was an excellent statesman
not a very good politician
the opposite of the fellow who followed him into the white house
 
Master PO said:
3oo,ooo barrels of fuel for an energy crisis..which was bunk, i don't pay the president to tell how i should behave

your love for playing on billys team clouded your judgment

carter was terrible president .and thats why America got rid of him.
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The only thing I remember positive about the Carter administration is that he did bring back some honor and dignity to the White House after it was bastardized with corruption.

Other than that, not much.
 
Well you know, Obama was a extremely centrist moderate liberal, but had dark skin and a terrorist name....soooooo.....it's hard really to get worse than that right?
 
justabubba said:
that was 300,000 barrels of oil saved DAILY after the arab oil embargo
at a time when cars were lined up for blocks to fill their tanks
an era when your license plate ending in an odd or even number determined the day of the week you could buy gas


i was willing to play for billy beer, what can i say


Carter was an excellent statesman
not a very good politician
the opposite of the fellow who followed him into the white house
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carter was a terrible president, 20% interest rates
 
Captain America said:
The only thing I remember positive about the Carter administration is that he did bring back some honor and dignity to the White House after it was bastardized with corruption.

Other than that, not much.
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i agree.... carter is not a bad man per say. just a bad president
 
Master PO said:
carter was a terrible president, 20% interest rates
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anybody know who was president when those interest rates spiked in the early 80's
graph prime interest rates.webp
 
Master PO said:
carter lead this nation down a bad road because like you i was there and lived through it, America was happy to throw him out



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just like America was willing to elect the orange liar in chief

a very weak barometer of Presidential performance
 
justabubba said:
just like America was willing to elect the orange liar in chief

a very weak barometer of Presidential performance
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its a good one and Reagan went on to be elected in 1984 winning 49 states of 50.

carter was terrible

trump that remains yet to be determined
 
I didn't think any modern president would be worse than Dubya. Trump proved me wrong.
 
Captain America said:
Yeah. That's pretty much it in a nutshell.

Who would of thought a lyric line in a WHO song would become immortal?
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It is immortal because it is simple truth, an artistic expression of reality in a certain sense, and it transcends generations.
 
jimbo said:
Carter served from 1977. I believe even odd began in 1979.
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Do you have an aversion to using Google as a search engine? I got my first Driver's License in 1971. I remember the first round of odd/even rationing in early 1974. If you research effectively, then own up to a misconception, you display humility and honor.

Rationing reoccurred during the Carter era in 1979.
 
Trippy Trekker said:
Do you have an aversion to using Google as a search engine? I got my first Driver's License in 1971. I remember the first round of odd/even rationing in early 1974. If you research effectively, then own up to a misconception, you display humility and honor.

Rationing reoccurred during the Carter era in 1979.
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Some states used even, odd during Nixon. I don't believe it was Federal law.

I got my first drivers license in 1954.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odd–even_rationing
 
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jimbo said:
Some states used even, odd during Nixon. I don't believe it was Federal law.

I got my first drivers license in 1954.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odd–even_rationing
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Thank you for your clarification -

paragraph copied and pasted from Wikipedia - In 1973, Nixon named William E. Simon as the first Administrator of the Federal Energy Office, a short-term organization created to coordinate the response to the embargo.[35] Simon allocated states the same amount of domestic oil for 1974 that each had consumed in 1972, which worked for states whose populations were not increasing.[36] In other states, lines at gasoline stations were common. The American Automobile Association reported that in the last week of February 1974, 20% of American gasoline stations had no fuel.[36]

Oregon gasoline dealers displayed signs explaining the flag policy in the winter of 1973–74
Odd–even rationing allowed vehicles with license plates having an odd number as the last digit (or a vanity license plate) to buy gas only on odd-numbered days of the month, while others could buy only on even-numbered days.[37]
In some states, a three-color flag system was used to denote gasoline availability at service stations—green for unrationed availability, yellow for restricted/rationed sales and red for out of stock.[38]

Gasoline ration stamps printed by the Bureau of Engraving and Printing in 1974, but not used.
Rationing led to violent incidents, when truck drivers chose to strike for two days in December 1973 over the limited supplies Simon had allocated for their industry. In Pennsylvania and Ohio, non-striking truckers were shot at by striking truckers, and in Arkansas, trucks of non-strikers were attacked with bombs.[36
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