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In your lifetime, has any president sucked more than Trump does?

Trump has cheapened the office with his lies, like Clinton, and Nixon.
 
Glowpun said:
And will remain that way as long as he keeps his supporters.

On another topic, Louisiana is losing parts of its land to the water through global warming. Amazingly the people who are being affected continue to refuse to believe it despite all the evidence. These are the people who support Trump.
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Louisiana has been losing wetlands long before the tin foil hats types came along.

Hint:

Reduced sediment flow from the Mississippi River and its tributaries is largely responsible for wetland loss in Louisiana.
 
Mach said:
As long as you agree its not actually liberals that are obstructing Trump, then that's cool.

On one hand we all tend to think that just because they are "insiders", they are somehow all corrupt and incompetent. But in private industry, the insiders of those industries we think as bastions of a better world. It's really a double standard, and I'll just say that I think conservatives do it far more.
Taking out the trash every know and then with a disruptive candidate, that's not necessarily bad, I do agree.
I just don't see any evidence that Trump:
1. really understands what meaningful political reform looks like, at any level of detail
2. cares to actually find out
3. has the political savvy to get it done

He's verbally, emotionally, and tweet disruptive, that's for sure. But it seems to end there. Not surprising, a billionaire man use to the high life...what incentive is their *really* for him to take the hard road?
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It is liberals doing tho obstruction, along with much of the establishment conservatives.

I don't think they all corrupt, although I could be wrong. I'm not sure what that has to do with private industry.

I've thought about the Trump situation. I would prefer a better President, but I've come to realize that no one but a Trump could have pulled it off. If President Trump fails, we can always elect another candidate. In my mind, Trump has done his job. That being hammering the wedge into the Washington establishment. Now it's up to us to make sure that the wedge sticks.
 
Nope. Not even close.

Looking back GHBush was decent, Clinton was pretty good, W was well below average, but compared to Trump he's FDR. And Obama, with all his faults, was really good. Made me proud to be an American and all that jazz.

Trump is just not the same quality of person as any of them. He's a delusional child who should not have any sort of real power.
 
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Carter was the worst in my view. Now however, Trump is by far the worst I've ever seen.
 
In no particular order: Carter, LBJ, Obama, maybe Ford - I don't know what he did, if anything.
 
Your Star said:
Nope. Not even close.

Looking back GHBush was decent, Clinton was pretty good, W was well below average, but compared to Trump he's FDR. And Obama, with all his faults, was really good. Made me proud to be an American and all that jazz.

Trump is just not the same quality of person as any of them. He's a delusional child who should not have any sort of real power.
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GHBush....decent but RINO.....Clinton....outright sleaze.....GWB.....decent but wrongly pushed comprehensive immigration bill.....Obama.....abused his power just like Nixon.
 
In other news today...

"The new survey finds 46 percent saying they voted for Clinton and 43 percent for Trump, similar to her two-point national vote margin. Asked how they would vote if the election were held today, 43 say they would support Trump and 40 percent say Clinton"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...-1202am:homepage/story&utm_term=.57f418da2d2b

So sure...Trump still sucks AND he would still beat Clinton.
 
Captain America said:
Oh yes.. All those TERRIBLE things Obama did. Things that just really upset some people. :roll:
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Yes, if people are honest, Obama should be remembered for being a war criminal and significantly contributing to one of the biggest humanitarian crises since the Holocaust by supporting extremists and terrorists in Syria.
 
Obama and carter are pretty much the worst although you could add ford to that list as well.
Since he gave way to carter.

Trump so good so far.

Liberal melt down still going strong.
 
Trump will go down as the WORST president in history. He will make Nixon look like a choir boy when it is all said and done.
 
Vetplus40 said:
Trump will go down as the WORST president in history. He will make Nixon look like a choir boy when it is all said and done.
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I dunno, GWB set the bar pretty low. Even Trump agrees Bush sucked.
 
VanceMack said:
In other news today...

"The new survey finds 46 percent saying they voted for Clinton and 43 percent for Trump, similar to her two-point national vote margin. Asked how they would vote if the election were held today, 43 say they would support Trump and 40 percent say Clinton"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...-1202am:homepage/story&utm_term=.57f418da2d2b

So sure...Trump still sucks AND he would still beat Clinton.
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So Trump's only selling point 100 days into his presidency is that he's supposedly SLIGHTLY less bad than Clinton? Geez, we understand that it's the reason why he won, but by now if his only support is still based on him not being Clinton...then he's even worse than I thought.
 
Puigb said:
I dunno, GWB set the bar pretty low. Even Trump agrees Bush sucked.
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trump was also for Iraq-2 before he was against it. Only a childish chickenhawk would call prisoners of war 'losers' .
 
Puigb said:
So Trump's only selling point 100 days into his presidency is that he's supposedly SLIGHTLY less bad than Clinton? Geez, we understand that it's the reason why he won, but by now if his only support is still based on him not being Clinton...then he's even worse than I thought.
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And the only solace must be "it could have been worse." Even her own voters think so.
 
Renae said:
Am I not allowed to have an opinion or is any opinion not shared by you incorrect?
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When you are allowed to have an opinion, I'll tell you what it is.
 
RAMOSS said:
When you are allowed to have an opinion, I'll tell you what it is.
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I'm sorry, for your comments to have any sting, your opinion would first have to matter to me.
 
Renae said:
I'm sorry, for your comments to have any sting, your opinion would first have to matter to me.
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YOu don't understand. YOu don't have an opinion. And, if you need it, I'll give you your opinion to you.
 
ludin said:
Obama and carter are pretty much the worst although you could add ford to that list as well.
Since he gave way to carter.

Trump so good so far.

Liberal melt down still going strong.
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LOL! I shouldn't find historical illiteracy funny, but sometimes I can't help myself.
 
Glowpun said:
And will remain that way as long as he keeps his supporters.

On another topic, Louisiana is losing parts of its land to the water through global warming. Amazingly the people who are being affected continue to refuse to believe it despite all the evidence. These are the people who support Trump.
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No it's not, someone just showed they have little understanding of that particular issue. Louisiana is losing land because of the levees forcing sediment deposit prior to the delta
 
Tanngrisnir said:
LOL! I shouldn't find historical illiteracy funny, but sometimes I can't help myself.
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why are you projecting again? that seems to be the only thing that you can argue is projection arguments.
you realize that it is nothing more than a fallacy right?
 
ludin said:
why are you projecting again? that seems to be the only thing that you can argue is projection arguments.
you realize that it is nothing more than a fallacy right?
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A. Why are you attempting to use the word 'projection' w/out understanding what it means?
B. Why are you attempting to sue the word 'fallacy' w/out understanding what it means?

I'm not sure what you were trying to say with your post. Could you rephrase it?
 
Tanngrisnir said:
A. Why are you attempting to use the word 'projection' w/out understanding what it means?
B. Why are you attempting to sue the word 'fallacy' w/out understanding what it means?

I'm not sure what you were trying to say with your post. Could you rephrase it?
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Yes you evidently don't know what a projection fallacy is but then again that is not my issue but yours.
thanks for supporting my last post with this statement.

next time you might want to try an argument hat has some substance to it instead of just a fallacy.
we never understand what you try and post which is why it mostly goes ignored.
 
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