In need of parenting advice

[Wayne Jr]

I'm going issues I could use some advice on, mostly resolving around school, education...and my daughters personality.

Ok a serious post now. Have your kids evaluated and see if they can get into an I.E.P. program. This results in greatly reduced class sizes and better funding.

 

[Brochacholomigo]

What would you advise. Some useless singing kumbaya remedy. The answer he seeks is political. The only other remedy he has is to get rich quick and send his kids to a private school.

On the contrary, there are multiple suggestions that the posters have put forth besides private schools. You should try reading the other posts.

You're the kind of guy who goes to a restaurant where the waiters are paid less than minimum wage & tipping is customary, and instead of tipping after your meal, you write a comment about writing their legislators over labor reform on the back of their copy of the receipt.

 

[soylentgreen]

On the contrary, there are multiple suggestions that the posters have put forth besides private schools. You should try reading the other posts.

You're the kind of guy who goes to a restaurant where the waiters are paid less than minimum wage & tipping is customary, and instead of tipping after your meal, you write a comment about writing their legislators over labor reform on the back of their copy of the receipt.

I have and they basically say give the kid a stern talking or pill them up until they behave.

The problem is with politics that create poor schools and not the kids who suffer them.

 

[Brochacholomigo]

I have and they basically say give the kid a stern talking or pill them up until they behave.

The problem is with politics that create poor schools and not the kids who suffer them.

Yes, the problem is obviously with politics, but that isn't helpful, you insufferable killjoy. In addition to your oversimplified and insufficient analysis, there have been suggestions to move & where would be ideal to move to, to help out through a Parent Teacher Organization, to apply for an Individualized Education Program, and if I'm not mistaken, at least one suggestion for homeschooling.

And in case there aren't any suggestions for the latter: there are some excellent online programs to assist with homeschooling, and I know several people that have come out quite well from them. I ALSO know a small handful who have been utterly ****ed by fundamentalist Christian homeschooling, so be picky in a good way.

 

[KevinKohler]

Stop your whinging it only emphasises my point. The help he needs is to recogniose that his government is cheating his children of a good education by failing to keep schools at a high standard.

I do recognize that. I acknowledged it in my first couple of posts.

 

[SDET]

I do. I take ADHD medication to help me focus. I used to be a very poor student, but the medication has helped me focus on my work. Without it, my mind is usually all over the place and I can't sit still and focus on one thing.

Which med do you take? I got complaints at work for lack of attention. I tried Adderall. My wife complained that it turned me into a zombie. I stopped taking it. When weighing who deserves more consideration, a wife that gets on her knees and gives me a blow job when I get home from work or a boss that's impossible to please, I opted for the wife that gives me blow jobs over a boss that sucks.

 

[soylentgreen]

Yes, the problem is obviously with politics, but that isn't helpful, you insufferable killjoy. In addition to your oversimplified and insufficient analysis, there have been suggestions to move & where would be ideal to move to, to help out through a Parent Teacher Organization, to apply for an Individualized Education Program, and if I'm not mistaken, at least one suggestion for homeschooling.

And in case there aren't any suggestions for the latter: there are some excellent online programs to assist with homeschooling, and I know several people that have come out quite well from them. I ALSO know a small handful who have been utterly ****ed by fundamentalist Christian homeschooling, so be picky in a good way.

No, it is giving him good advice. It is pointing out that what he is being told is to blame and shame the children for their behaviour. If that does not work then shame the children by saying it is their parents fault. And if that does not work then drug them.

Helping out on the school board is akin to shifting deck chairs on the titanic. And home schooling might be an alternative but it does nothing to alleviate the problem. This advice is telling him to run away from the problem. This is why socialist systems such as public education is so degraded in america because the american way of advising is never to act as a collective and demand the right to an education. But instead play along with the propaganda of individuality and seek only to help yourself and not in collective socialist fashion. That is how your government gets away with being nothing more than a puppet for the wealthy oligarchy.


The children act badly because they are well aware that the system does not care about them. What people are pointing to here as bad behaviour is a symptom, not a cause . The cause for the bad behaviour is a government that can and will degrade education.

The best advice to give him is get up and protest and drag every other parent into it until the government is forced to listen.

 

[soylentgreen]

I do recognize that. I acknowledged it in my first couple of posts.

As in mine. It is not being dickish to point out your government is at fault. It is not being dickish to actually say that america has faults.

 

[Brochacholomigo]

The best advice to give him is get up and protest and drag every other parent into it until the government is forced to listen.

That advice relies on tens, possibly hundreds of thousands of people reaching the same conclusion. It also means making a martyr out of his children, who need an immediate change to their situation. It'd be nice if America got it's **** together and fixed some issues that date back damn near a century, but it's best to assume that the issue will continue for a decade or more & act accordingly.

 

[Brochacholomigo]

As in mine. It is not being dickish to point out your government is at fault. It is not being dickish to actually say that america has faults.

It's definitely dickish to tell him nothing but a massive political campaign will work for his situation. That's what's been bothering me this whole time.

 

[soylentgreen]

That advice relies on tens, possibly hundreds of thousands of people reaching the same conclusion. It also means making a martyr out of his children, who need an immediate change to their situation. It'd be nice if America got it's **** together and fixed some issues that date back damn near a century, but it's best to assume that the issue will continue for a decade or more & act accordingly.

Do you really believe tens of thousands have not reached that conclusion. What has been described in the way poor schools is universal through the usa not just his school.

Your children are victims of a poor education system they are already martyrs to the advantage of an elite minority.

And yes, i agree with you there. But the issue will never be fixed as long as the attitude that is reflected in this thread continues. Which is that of shame the children for acting out and blame the parents for their children acting out.

It's definitely dickish to tell him nothing but a massive political campaign will work for his situation. That's what's been bothering me this whole time.

Nothing else will work. The children are not at fault here. The problem is political.

 

[Kreton]

So...this is mostly a shout out to parents of kids ages 8-14. Mainly because it's a brave new world out there now. Things you did and taught as a parent 20 years ago simply don't apply to today.

I'm going issues I could use some advice on, mostly resolving around school, education...and my daughters personality.

First, school. Our school is apparently so broke, despite exorbitantly high taxation (I live in CT, the tax you to death state), that teachers have classroom sizes of over 30 kids, in grades 1-5. And they don't have enough text books, so...they make photo copies. But...they don't have time, so they need volunteers to make the photo copies for them. To me, that's a major holy **** moment. What. The. ****.

The kids. I never noticed it before, but as I become more involved with their activities...the kids my son and daughters ages (7 and 9) are atrocious. Teachers have done videos about how much effort it takes just to keep the class quiet and on task, or to get them lined up to go somewhere. 30 minutes, in some cases, to get kids lined up and quiet. Now, I thought, that's just teachers not knowing how to control a room of kids. But then, I put my son into cub scouts. Which is held at the school cafeteria at 7pm. I can't drop him off, so a I hang there with my daughter, because the wife is at work. I work with her on her homework. And witness the chaos. There is no order. The scout masters have no control, because there is none to be had. If I were in charge, I'd be yelling constantly. I'd have to use fear of some sort, because there is no discipline. One issue, there are autistic, or otherwise special needs kids mixed in, and there is simply no controlling them. And when they get crazy, the rest join in.

I can only imagine, this must be what it's like for the teachers.

This is a failure of the entire community that is becoming more and more common across the country. Schools are not funded properly. Students are not taught to respect anything. Parents are absent. Teachers give up.