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I'm Tired of Trump Supporters Being Labeled "cultists"

Dayton3 said:
Yes, I know lots of the people that use that term hate Donald Trump. I'll grant that they believe they have good reasons to do so.
I don't like Donald Trump myself. His personal history and the way he behaves is frequently repulsive and utterly disgusting. I did not vote for him.

But I support President Trump because I agree with most (not all) of the policies he has advanced as president and while I do not care in general for his "counterpunching" and "tweeting", I do admire considerably a Republican president who isn't afraid or unwilling to fight back.

Finally, I believe that the efforts people have made to oppose President Trump are far more dangerous to our country than anything President Trump has done or could conceivably do.

Thus, I find it galling to have myself (and others) labeled as "cultists". By no possible definition of the word is my support of President Trump in any way reminiscent of a cult member showing allegiance to their leader.

While I recognize that there might be some (very few) Trump supporters who would fit that stereotype, it definitely isn't most or even the majority of Trump supporters and I'm pretty sure even Trump haters would recognize that fact if they were honest.
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Thank you very much. I did find the supporters of Obama to be cultists however.

Why?

Never had governed anything.
Hardly was present in the Senate
Being black is not a virtue. Being a good man is.
Songs sang to him by children via teachers doing it to the kids
People had no clue what he had ever done, they simply sang his praises
 
Dayton3 said:
Yes, I know lots of the people that use that term hate Donald Trump. I'll grant that they believe they have good reasons to do so.
I don't like Donald Trump myself. His personal history and the way he behaves is frequently repulsive and utterly disgusting. I did not vote for him.

But I support President Trump because I agree with most (not all) of the policies he has advanced as president and while I do not care in general for his "counterpunching" and "tweeting", I do admire considerably a Republican president who isn't afraid or unwilling to fight back.

Finally, I believe that the efforts people have made to oppose President Trump are far more dangerous to our country than anything President Trump has done or could conceivably do.

Thus, I find it galling to have myself (and others) labeled as "cultists". By no possible definition of the word is my support of President Trump in any way reminiscent of a cult member showing allegiance to their leader.

While I recognize that there might be some (very few) Trump supporters who would fit that stereotype, it definitely isn't most or even the majority of Trump supporters and I'm pretty sure even Trump haters would recognize that fact if they were honest.
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Eat the pain like candy.
 
Dayton3 said:
Yes, I know lots of the people that use that term hate Donald Trump. I'll grant that they believe they have good reasons to do so.
I don't like Donald Trump myself. His personal history and the way he behaves is frequently repulsive and utterly disgusting. I did not vote for him.

But I support President Trump because I agree with most (not all) of the policies he has advanced as president and while I do not care in general for his "counterpunching" and "tweeting", I do admire considerably a Republican president who isn't afraid or unwilling to fight back.

Finally, I believe that the efforts people have made to oppose President Trump are far more dangerous to our country than anything President Trump has done or could conceivably do.

Thus, I find it galling to have myself (and others) labeled as "cultists". By no possible definition of the word is my support of President Trump in any way reminiscent of a cult member showing allegiance to their leader.

While I recognize that there might be some (very few) Trump supporters who would fit that stereotype, it definitely isn't most or even the majority of Trump supporters and I'm pretty sure even Trump haters would recognize that fact if they were honest.
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OK, we can just call Trump supporters ignorant dumbasses.
 
tres borrachos said:
Well according to Michele Bachman, Trump is the most Biblical President we ever had. And Rick Perry said he was sent here by God. And so on.

Idiots.
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Had General Eisenhower been judged as a General as Trump is by the Democrats, Ike could never beat the Nazis.
 
trixare4kids said:
I could have written the above.
I don't mind their clueless, sticks and stones labeling though.
Says everything about their desperation with this president and yes, they do blame we, who support and/or voted for him. They need to get over themselves.
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Well, your logic often escapes us.

For example, a poster who refers to themselves as a Classical Liberal, claims to lean Libertarian, yet is one of the biggest defenders of everything Trump on this forum. When Trumpists start approaching the issues of today with something resembling honesty and good faith, maybe they will stop being looked at as a mindless horde with no core principles or functioning brains.
 
Dayton3 said:
Yes, I know lots of the people that use that term hate Donald Trump. I'll grant that they believe they have good reasons to do so.
I don't like Donald Trump myself. His personal history and the way he behaves is frequently repulsive and utterly disgusting. I did not vote for him.

But I support President Trump because I agree with most (not all) of the policies he has advanced as president and while I do not care in general for his "counterpunching" and "tweeting", I do admire considerably a Republican president who isn't afraid or unwilling to fight back.

Finally, I believe that the efforts people have made to oppose President Trump are far more dangerous to our country than anything President Trump has done or could conceivably do.

Thus, I find it galling to have myself (and others) labeled as "cultists". By no possible definition of the word is my support of President Trump in any way reminiscent of a cult member showing allegiance to their leader.

While I recognize that there might be some (very few) Trump supporters who would fit that stereotype, it definitely isn't most or even the majority of Trump supporters and I'm pretty sure even Trump haters would recognize that fact if they were honest.
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Then stop acting like them. Stop logging to post the exact same lies (Hannity's version of "talking points"). Stop knee-jerk defending everything Trump does. Stop calling any criticism of Trump "TDS." Stop knee-jerk attacking everything said that might reflect negatively on Trump and the people who said it. Stop all the liberals-this/liberals-that rants. Stop starting threads in unison on California every time Trump insults it. Stop polishing his metaphorical knob at every opportunity. Stop lying, cheating, and pissing on American democracy, all while acting as if you are justified by imaginary crimes "the left" committed against you.

Stop circling the wagons and instead start calling each other out for all the idiotic lies and deflections. I see plenty of disagreements between left-lean people but the only disagreements I've seen between Trumpists are about just how poopy the left is. But really, stop trying to tell me the sky is red, using exactliy the same language as every other Trumpist who tells me the sky is red, simply because you all saw it on the same Fox segment or heard on the same morning right wing radio hatefest.

Start behaving with basic human decency and stop behaving like a hive mind, and people will stop referring to you as cultists.




Until then.... womp-womp.

Don't get snowflakey about it anyway. You lot have said far worse for far longer about "the left"; the beginning of that partisan hatred was with Gingrich's push for a "permanent Republican majority", but it truly blossomed when someone with the middle name "Hussein" who didn't look like past presidents looked likely to win. It's been one lockstep anti-left hate fest since then.
 
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Dayton3 said:
Yes, I know lots of the people that use that term hate Donald Trump. I'll grant that they believe they have good reasons to do so.
I don't like Donald Trump myself. His personal history and the way he behaves is frequently repulsive and utterly disgusting. I did not vote for him.

But I support President Trump because I agree with most (not all) of the policies he has advanced as president and while I do not care in general for his "counterpunching" and "tweeting", I do admire considerably a Republican president who isn't afraid or unwilling to fight back.

Finally, I believe that the efforts people have made to oppose President Trump are far more dangerous to our country than anything President Trump has done or could conceivably do.

Thus, I find it galling to have myself (and others) labeled as "cultists". By no possible definition of the word is my support of President Trump in any way reminiscent of a cult member showing allegiance to their leader.

While I recognize that there might be some (very few) Trump supporters who would fit that stereotype, it definitely isn't most or even the majority of Trump supporters and I'm pretty sure even Trump haters would recognize that fact if they were honest.
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Like wild dogs, TDS’ers and their socialist buddies want to destroy everyone who is not one of them.
 
Jetboogieman said:
If people don't want to be labelled cultists, they need to stop acting like them.

I was averse to using that word for a long time, but Trump supporters have earned it in my opinion.

Trump support is a nationwide virtual psychosis affecting tens of millions of people as the end result of decades of bad information and propaganda being crapped directly into their brains by all manner of media along with a strong sense of tribalism.
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I've spent the last three years stating that they exhibited cult-like behavior, but always took the stand that they were not in fact a cult.

What did it for me was watching trump supporters whiplash back and forth in favor of removing soldiers from the Middle East and supporting war against Iran based on nothing more than the last thing Trump said. I saw them change their positions from one extreme to the other multiple times in one day. When that happened I said, "Yep, that's it. It's a cult."
 
Excast said:
Well, your logic often escapes us.

For example, a poster who refers to themselves as a Classical Liberal, claims to lean Libertarian, yet is one of the biggest defenders of everything Trump on this forum. When Trumpists start approaching the issues of today with something resembling honesty and good faith, maybe they will stop being looked at as a mindless horde with no core principles or functioning brains.
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I'm on topic. You're making the thread about me, attempting to personally insult me, but go ahead, as I said above, and I'll repeat this again for the slow learners, 'the cultist labeling says everything about the desperation of those who oppose this president and his supporters and voters.'
Now tell me why I am responsible for their anger?

I'll wait.
 
Dayton3 said:
Yes, I know lots of the people that use that term hate Donald Trump. I'll grant that they believe they have good reasons to do so.
I don't like Donald Trump myself. His personal history and the way he behaves is frequently repulsive and utterly disgusting. I did not vote for him.

But I support President Trump because I agree with most (not all) of the policies he has advanced as president and while I do not care in general for his "counterpunching" and "tweeting", I do admire considerably a Republican president who isn't afraid or unwilling to fight back.

Finally, I believe that the efforts people have made to oppose President Trump are far more dangerous to our country than anything President Trump has done or could conceivably do.

Thus, I find it galling to have myself (and others) labeled as "cultists". By no possible definition of the word is my support of President Trump in any way reminiscent of a cult member showing allegiance to their leader.

While I recognize that there might be some (very few) Trump supporters who would fit that stereotype, it definitely isn't most or even the majority of Trump supporters and I'm pretty sure even Trump haters would recognize that fact if they were honest.
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The reason it's considered a cult is because trump supporters exhibit no principles of their own. The thing they believe in is the latest thing Trump says. In addition, they'll lie endlessly and justify all reprehensible behavior to protect him. That's cult as hell.
 
Dayton3 said:
Yes, I know lots of the people that use that term hate Donald Trump. I'll grant that they believe they have good reasons to do so.
I don't like Donald Trump myself. His personal history and the way he behaves is frequently repulsive and utterly disgusting. I did not vote for him.

But I support President Trump because I agree with most (not all) of the policies he has advanced as president and while I do not care in general for his "counterpunching" and "tweeting", I do admire considerably a Republican president who isn't afraid or unwilling to fight back.

Finally, I believe that the efforts people have made to oppose President Trump are far more dangerous to our country than anything President Trump has done or could conceivably do.

Thus, I find it galling to have myself (and others) labeled as "cultists". By no possible definition of the word is my support of President Trump in any way reminiscent of a cult member showing allegiance to their leader.

While I recognize that there might be some (very few) Trump supporters who would fit that stereotype, it definitely isn't most or even the majority of Trump supporters and I'm pretty sure even Trump haters would recognize that fact if they were honest.
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The "cult" thing comes from the weird perfect lockstep seen in the views of so many trump supporters.

They repeat what they hear in their media, word for word without reservation or nuance. No disagreement with any aspect.

It's conditioning, unnatural, and it's creepy to those of us who haven't exposed ourselves to said conditioning exclusively for decades.

Conservative narratives become trump supporter reality and when trump.flip flops they just assume the new position without ever questioning why it was different yesterday.

Maybe this will help you understand where we're actually coming from instead of where you've been told we're coming from.
 
CaughtInThe said:
has any cult enjoyed being described accurately?
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Not since the Birthers...and we know who the cult leader was for that bowel movement.
 
Mr Person said:
Then stop acting like them. Stop logging to post the exact same lies (Hannity's version of "talking points"). Stop knee-jerk defending everything Trump does. Stop knee-jerk attacking everything said that might reflect negatively on Trump and the people who said it. Stop all the liberals-this/liberals-that rants. Stop starting threads in unison on California every time Trump insults it. Stop polishing his metaphorical knob at every opportunity. Stop lying, cheating, and pissing on American democracy, all while acting as if you are justified by imaginary crimes "the left" committed against you.

Stop circling the wagons and instead start calling each other out for all the idiotic lies and deflections. I see plenty of disagreements between left-lean people but the only disagreements I've seen between Trumpists are about just how poopy the left is. But really, stop trying to tell me the sky is red, using exactliy the same language as every other Trumpist who tells me the sky is red, simply because you all saw it on the same Fox segment or heard on the same morning right wing radio hatefest.

Start behaving with basic human decency and stop behaving like a hive mind, and people will stop referring to you as cultists.




Until then.... womp-womp.

Don't get snowflakey about it anyway. You lot have said far worse for far longer about "the left"; the beginning of that partisan hatred was with Gingrich's push for a "permanent Republican majority", but it truly blossomed when someone with the middle name "Hussein" who didn't look like past presidents looked likely to win. It's been one lockstep anti-left hate fest since then.
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^^^The above is a perfect example of extreme, misplaced anger peppered with hyperbole. He didn't even bother to read what the original poster actually wrote. The original poster doesn't deserve the scorn coming his way but to get back to my point above, nobody on this forum is responsible for enabling, condoning, or accepting the hysterical, often juvenile, anger of the anti-Trumps.
 
chuckiechan said:
Like wild dogs, TDS’ers and their socialist buddies want to destroy everyone who is not one of them.
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^^^ That's cult mentality in a nutshell, right there.
 
Jetboogieman said:
If people don't want to be labelled cultists, they need to stop acting like them.

I was averse to using that word for a long time, but Trump supporters have earned it in my opinion.

Trump support is a nationwide virtual psychosis affecting tens of millions of people as the end result of decades of bad information and propaganda being crapped directly into their brains by all manner of media along with a strong sense of tribalism.
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The virtual psychosis is caused by continuous lying about connections with Russia that have been proven by Mueller not to exist, but somehow the media has joined ranks with the elected democrats to keep publishing false information. Trumps only impeachable offense was being an outsider beating Hillary, and turning his back on the corruption plagued Washington elite who live off of sweet deals bought with taxpayers money.

The tribalism you speak of was caused by democrat identity politics, causing participants of the left wing governance to feel the need for their own special beef with society. That is why there is a civil war in your party, and that is why your party’s candidates are so ****ty. ****ty candidates come from a ****ty party. Don’t call Trump supporters a cult for challenging a party indifferent to Americas’ workers success in the workforce.

So to the TDS’ers: Stick a sock in it.

One more thing: the left can take Obama’s “One World Government” they are so fond of and shove it. (If there is room).

Moot said:
^^^ That's cult mentality in a nutshell, right there.
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Hardly. Cult mentality is refusing to alter your position after Mueller’s 400 page year long investigation. That is “cult” - refusing to alter course when you are provably wrong.
 
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Dayton3 said:
Yes, I know lots of the people that use that term hate Donald Trump. I'll grant that they believe they have good reasons to do so.
I don't like Donald Trump myself. His personal history and the way he behaves is frequently repulsive and utterly disgusting. I did not vote for him.

But I support President Trump because I agree with most (not all) of the policies he has advanced as president and while I do not care in general for his "counterpunching" and "tweeting", I do admire considerably a Republican president who isn't afraid or unwilling to fight back.

Finally, I believe that the efforts people have made to oppose President Trump are far more dangerous to our country than anything President Trump has done or could conceivably do.

Thus, I find it galling to have myself (and others) labeled as "cultists". By no possible definition of the word is my support of President Trump in any way reminiscent of a cult member showing allegiance to their leader.

While I recognize that there might be some (very few) Trump supporters who would fit that stereotype, it definitely isn't most or even the majority of Trump supporters and I'm pretty sure even Trump haters would recognize that fact if they were honest.
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moops.webp
 
Moot said:
^^^ That's cult mentality in a nutshell, right there.
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How so? Ever read your posts back to yourself before you hit send? If we're not with YOU, we are then labeled Trump cultists.

I don't mind you doing it. I realize you've got a hulluva' lot of misplaced anger.

Feel better soon. Maybe if the Democrats would stop running dumbchits, the "cultists" would have something better to vote for.
 
Dayton3 said:
Yes, I know lots of the people that use that term hate Donald Trump. I'll grant that they believe they have good reasons to do so.
I don't like Donald Trump myself. His personal history and the way he behaves is frequently repulsive and utterly disgusting. I did not vote for him.

But I support President Trump because I agree with most (not all) of the policies he has advanced as president and while I do not care in general for his "counterpunching" and "tweeting", I do admire considerably a Republican president who isn't afraid or unwilling to fight back.

Finally, I believe that the efforts people have made to oppose President Trump are far more dangerous to our country than anything President Trump has done or could conceivably do.

Thus, I find it galling to have myself (and others) labeled as "cultists". By no possible definition of the word is my support of President Trump in any way reminiscent of a cult member showing allegiance to their leader.

While I recognize that there might be some (very few) Trump supporters who would fit that stereotype, it definitely isn't most or even the majority of Trump supporters and I'm pretty sure even Trump haters would recognize that fact if they were honest.
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First, he often does not couner punch, but punches out at someone or thing and then acts like he is the victim and then punches again when they punch back. And talk about cultists, one only has to look at the evangelical support hee receives to show that a lot of his support act toward Trump as cultists. I do not how often I have read another one of the evvangelical so called Christians saying he is the one from given to our country from God. Well I am a CHristian and a trustee of my church and God does not send someone like trump to help our country. And as far as supporting his policies, which ones. The ones where he has put forth executive orders making it possible for companies to dirty our air and water and taking our evironmental laws back to the 1850's. Or the one where he gave a trillion dollar tax cut to the wealthiest of Americans and thus more than doubled our deficits. Or his stupid tariff war that according to what I have read has done nothing to change the Chinese and made no real changes to our deals with Mexico and Canada, but hurt our farmers so that many are taking their lives. Or going to court to take away health insurance from 25 million Americans and many more will not be able to get coverage due to the insurance companies no longer having to cover pre-existing conditions. I coud go on, but I would love to hear which of his politices you like. And please do not say he is emptying the swamp as most of those people going to jail are from his administration.
 
trixare4kids said:
I'm on topic. You're making the thread about me, attempting to personally insult me, but go ahead, as I said above, and I'll repeat this again for the slow learners, 'the cultist labeling says everything about the desperation of those who oppose this president and his supporters and voters.'
Now tell me why I am responsible for their anger?

I'll wait.
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Asking for decency and consistency is not an insult.

Cult can be defined a few different ways, but I think this is the most apt to the current situation.

a misplaced or excessive admiration for a particular person or thing.

Now, perhaps you and the millions of others who cheer this man love the lying. The casual misogyny. The constant self serving nature of pretty much everything he does. Maybe the hypocrisy sends a tingle up your leg and a shiver down your spine. Perhaps you see the corruption as toughness and can relate to the proud ignorance with which he approaches almost every issue.

Maybe it's not misplaced admiration. Maybe it's even worse than we thought and Trumpists aren't members of a cult.

Maybe they are just bad people.
 
chuckiechan said:
The virtual psychosis is caused by continuous lying about connections with Russia that have been proven by Mueller not to exist, but somehow the media has joined ranks with the elected democrats to keep publishing false information. Trumps only impeachable offense was being an outsider beating Hillary, and turning his back on the corruption plagued Washington elite who live off of sweet deals bought with taxpayers money.

The tribalism you speak of was caused by democrat identity politics, causing participants of the left wing governance to feel the need for their own special beef with society. That is why there is a civil war in your party, and that is why your party’s candidates are so ****ty. ****ty candidates come from a ****ty party. Don’t call Trump supporters a cult for challenging a party indifferent to Americas’ workers success in the workforce.

So to the TDS’ers: Stick a sock in it.

One more thing: the left can take Obama’s “One World Government” they are so fond of and shove it. (If there is room).



Hardly. Cult mentality is refusing to alter you position after Mueller’s 400 page year long investigation. That is “cult” - refusing to alter course when you are provably wrong.
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I don't want the TDSers to stick a sock in it.
I want them to keep on with the rage because they remind of exactly the reasons why President Trump won the election.
Trump tapped into the energy that stood against these control freaks trying to dictate every aspect of our lives. People tired of it, and he became their voice. I didn't get it at first, but one would have to be willingly blind not to see why DJT was elected.
 
tres borrachos said:
Well according to Michele Bachman, Trump is the most Biblical President we ever had. And Rick Perry said he was sent here by God. And so on.

Idiots.
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:lamo :lamo
 
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