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If you find gay/trans perverted, why?

Crakhobarbie said:
I've asked this question of most of the bigoted transphobic/Homophobic folks here, but i never get a viable response.
Normally, they just refuse to answer.
Or, they'll answer "if you don't know i feel sorry for you", or something along those lines.

I'd like to try and understand what makes some think their sexual proclivities are less or more perverse than other folks.

I recall as a teenager, sitting around with my friends shooting the shit. We'd discuss all sorts of topics. One day, homosexuality came up. We all agreed that watching two beautiful females kissing would be pleasing. But, when visualizing two men kissing on the mouth, their grisly beards scratching against one another, the reactions became mixed.
Now, none of us were bigots as teenagers, but I wondered, what caused some kids to swing towards bigotry in adulthood, and others to lean towards acceptance and inclusion?
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To be clear, feeling disgust at homosexual acts does not make one a bigot. It makes one a heterosexual.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Please show your work, doctor
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There is no such thing as transgender ideology. That term was invented by the conservative media about 5 years ago.


Trumpetman said:
To be clear, feeling disgust at homosexual acts does not make one a bigot. It makes one a heterosexual.
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Being a homophobe is an act of bigotry because many heterosexuals, both make and female, can be very secure is their sexuality and not be homophobes. Most people who are homophobes are in the closet themselves and in denial of their own sexuality.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Please show your work, doctor
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Confidentiality present me from citing some of my actual cases but they responded well to family therapy.
I have MS in psychology
 
Marvin Klein said:

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colsoncenter.org

Yes, Gender Confusion Is Socially Contagious

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Confidentiality present me from citing some of my actual cases but they responded well to family therapy.
I have MS in psychology
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Your source of the Colson Center is religious bullshit. https://colsoncenter.org/

I expect that you will cite Lisa Littman next.
 
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Marvin Klein said:
Confidentiality present me from citing some of my actual cases but they responded well to family therapy.
I have MS in psychology
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If this was true then there would be evidence of it, but there is no evidence that psychotherapy alone can treat gender dysphoria. In fact it is the opposite. Do you have a conspiracy theory to explain why there is no evidence to support your claims of family therapy as effective treatment for gender dysphoria?
 
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Marvin Klein said:
Confidentiality present me from citing some of my actual cases but they responded well to family therapy.
I have MS in psychology
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Then you should know what the DSM-5 is and that it does not mention homosexuality as a disorder. In fact it hasn't been classified as a disorder in about half a century.
 
Marvin Klein said:
Those of us in the field know all to well this is a mental illness
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I see.
So, the APA, The WHO are wrong, and you are right?
Must be difficult contradicting the status quo.
Do you see yourself as a candle in the wind?
 
The only thing I can think of is people perpetuating religiously-derived mandates that were used for population control.

There's no reason anyone should give a shit. It's not affecting them. And if someone says "Pride parade"....don't go.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Well discuss it seeing sexual behavior or seeing two women kiss each other both straight men I know are really into that.
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Both men are fine with watching two women be sexual with each other because as heterosexual men, watching women be sexual turns them on. If the women did it with a vibrator or dildo are they dildosexuals or vibratorsexuals?
 
Trumpetman said:
Both men are fine with watching two women be sexual with each other because as heterosexual men, watching women be sexual turns them on.
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So straight men like watching you thinking about homosexual behavior.
Trumpetman said:
If the women did it with a vibrator or dildo are they dildosexuals or vibratorsexuals?
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Aren't all women?
 
CLAX1911 said:
My apologies. Straight men like watching and thinking about homosexual acts.
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To be a homosexual act to a man, it would have be men. Same sex acts.

Opposite sex acts would not be the same. I know you want to make the logical leap here but it doesn't work.

You asked how a man sees this. The man sees the other woman as just a bigger portion of same opposite sex.
 
Trumpetman said:
To be a homosexual act to a man, it would have be men. Same sex acts.
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No, two women engaging in a homosexual act is a homosexual act. So straight men love watching homosexual acts
Trumpetman said:
Opposite sex acts would not be the same.
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Sure I suppose what you going to man and a woman interact sexually isn't the same.
Trumpetman said:
I know you want to make the logical leap here but it doesn't work.
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Well I'm calling two people who engage in sexual behavior with one another and are the same sex homosexual because that's what that word means.
Trumpetman said:
You asked how a man sees this. The man sees the other woman as just a bigger portion of same opposite sex.
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But a homosexual act is two people of the same sex engaging in some sort of erotic or suggestive behavior.

Sure I wouldn't expect a straight man to be into watching two dudes kiss each other but that's not the only kind of homosexuals there are
 
CLAX1911 said:
No, two women engaging in a homosexual act is a homosexual act. So straight men love watching homosexual acts

Sure I suppose what you going to man and a woman interact sexually isn't the same.

Well I'm calling two people who engage in sexual behavior with one another and are the same sex homosexual because that's what that word means.

But a homosexual act is two people of the same sex engaging in some sort of erotic or suggestive behavior.

Sure I wouldn't expect a straight man to be into watching two dudes kiss each other but that's not the only kind of homosexuals there are
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Again I understand the logical leap you want to make but it doesn't work and the sentence fragments don't help.
 
CLAX1911 said:
No logical leap homosexual women are homosexual.

Just admit that you like it it's okay I don't think you're gay.
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If they are in an act with a heterosexual man as a partner then they aren't homosexual. They might be bisexual but they aren't homosexual.
 
CLAX1911 said:
Two women making out is a homosexual act.

Bisexuals sometimes engage in homosexual acts.
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Again keep making that leap. It doesn't work.

Sexual orientation isn't an act. It is attraction. If a woman is attracted to men and women, she is bisexual.
 
Trumpetman said:
Again keep making that leap. It doesn't work.
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That two people of the same sex behaving sexually with each other is a homosexual act? Leaping to the meaning of the word I guess.

Trumpetman said:
Sexual orientation isn't an act.
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You didn't mention orientation in this post
Trumpetman said:
To be clear, feeling disgust at homosexual acts does not make one a bigot. It makes one a heterosexual.
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I was pointing out that street people don't necessarily feel disgust and might even feel arousal at homosexual Acts.


Trumpetman said:
It is attraction. If a woman is attracted to men and women, she is bisexual.
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Yeah you were talking about attraction or sexual orientation you were talking about homosexual Acts that's what I responded to.
 
CLAX1911 said:
That two people of the same sex behaving sexually with each other is a homosexual act? Leaping to the meaning of the word I guess.


You didn't mention orientation in this post

I was pointing out that street people don't necessarily feel disgust and might even feel arousal at homosexual Acts.



Yeah you were talking about attraction or sexual orientation you were talking about homosexual Acts that's what I responded to.
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Enjoy the pretzels. Here's some salt.
 
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