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If Bernie Drops Out, is it Over?

Trump overfills stadiums with people listening in the parking lots. Warren is just a phony Indian princess that promises everything for free, and sounds phony doing it.

You know whats fake, when Rump attempts to show empathy. Of course being a narcissist one finds it difficult to show empathy, which is why it sounds like a footnote, oh wait, it is a footnote.
 
Famous hedge fund manager Leon Cooperman said the stock market wouldn't open if Warren became president:

That's so blatantly and hilariously untrue that it pretty much invalidates anything else the guy might say.
 
Warren vs. Trump in 2020

Another glaring example of extremist candidates on both sides of the aisle.

We used to be better than this.

Oh well, at least I will get to vote for some important local positions.
 
Trump is trying to dictate to Congress when to do what.
It's laughable. They are co-equal branches and he is not the boss of them.
Everything is right on schedule and Trump adds new charges daily. Just today he added another violation of 52 U.S. Code § 30121.
He will also be charged with Contempt of Congress, which Bill Barr has no jurisdiction over.
The House served the WH today and Trump claimed nobody would respond until a vote is taken.
That's not how it works. That's obstruction.

It is not up to Mitch McConnell. If only ONE Article of Impeachment gets a majority vote in the House
(No Hurry, BTW they have to cross every t and dot every i )
Of course trump wants them to rush in with their shoe laces untied.
Whether or not the Senate votes correctly or not is not as important as the House of Reps fulfills their sworn duty to uphold the law and Constitution. It's not optional.
Now, 2/3 of the Senate needs to decide if they want a lawless clown king, or do they have a moral, legal compass?
You may be surprised how many in the GOP ranks despise this guy.

Nancy is not interested in finding any truth. Nancy wants to drag out the media exposure as long as possible for her agenda. Also, she doesn't want the Repubs to have subpoena power, it would be so embarrassing for so many DIMMs.
 
At this point, is it a matter of Bernie dropping out or dropping over? At first, his sycophants wanted to play his medical situation as a simple stint repair. But we now know that it was a heart attack with irreversible brain damage.
 
Polls are skewed depending on a number of factors. They can be way off and misleading. The best indicator of how a candidate is perceived is fund raising. In the third quarter Trump pulled in $125 million. A 29% increase over the second quarter. Including donations from 313,000 first time donors. All the Democrats together did not raise that much. In addition, Biden's donations dropped by 30%. Smart people don't throw money at a dead horse.

Really? It just shows that these donors have money. Still, each donor can only vote once in November 2020.
So, when the polls show more support for Trump, the polls are accurate. When they show more support for impeachment, they are misleading. Gotcha.
 
Sure it does.
Only the House of Reps can initiate and introduce articles of impeachment,
But the impeachment is adjudicated in the Senate with the SCOTUS Chief Justice presiding...
The Senate Majority leader is knocked down a notch and only has one vote, same as every other Senator.

Nope. That's not how it is called. Would you go back to Civics 101, please?
The House impeaches. The Senate holds a TRIAL which is not called an impeachment. If convicted the president is removed.
 
The dow jones is down over 500 points because of this news. This makes it more likely that Elizabeth Warren could be president. Warren would be a disaster for our country and economy.

Famous hedge fund manager Leon Cooperman said the stock market wouldn't open if Warren became president:



Leon Cooperman fears a shift to left: '''They won'''t open the stock market''' if Elizabeth Warren wins

Leon Cooperman is a billionaire investor and hedge fund manager, if anyone could possibly fear a liberal president, it would be him. These billionaires don't want someone like Elizabeth Warren to win because it's going to force them to give up some of their money to pay for a tax hike which she'll do. Thanks to Trump, the rich got a huge tax break and that's bankrupting the US.

The stock market is nothing more than a playground for hedge fund managers and day traders. In reality most of the stock market is owned by the average Joe. In fact, the largest chunk is doing one thing: helping people retire.

And if you take Leon Cooperman with any seriousness, then you needs some education about the stock market. There's no way in Hell that they "won't open the stock market" if Warren was elected. That's deep swamp talk. He's an old idiot republican swamp thing.
 
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Really? An article from 7 days ago?

Yes, why? Since when 6 days ago (when I posted it) doesn't qualify as the last few days?

365 days ago wouldn't qualify. Maybe 30 wouldn't. But 6? Yep.
 
Bernie Sanders is having heart surgery. It's relatively minor, but his ability to campaign will be severely restricted and he was already losing ground. Joe Biden is getting hit by all the attention on Ukraine.

The third debate is in less than two weeks. Will it all be over except for the rituals?

Poll did not attach. Could a Mod add one: yes, maybe, no, other.
I don't think he's going to drop out. Recovery time I'm unsure of, although his campaign has said he'll be at the next debate.
I expect they'll ask him about possible health issues.
 
I don't think he's going to drop out. Recovery time I'm unsure of, although his campaign has said he'll be at the next debate. I expect they'll ask him about possible health issues.
I agree. However, he may become one of the also ran crowd. It depends on how long he is hampered and to what degree.
 
Really? It just shows that these donors have money. Still, each donor can only vote once in November 2020.
So, when the polls show more support for Trump, the polls are accurate. When they show more support for impeachment, they are misleading. Gotcha.

You are the one stuck on polls. If you were capable of reading you would see I said they are easily skewed and often flawed. On the other hand when people are pouring a record amount of money into Trump's war chest. Over 300,000 first time donors. What that really shows is that people don't like what the Democrats are trying to sell. They are flocking to Trump as the alternative. That money will be well used to sway other undecided voters and that is why they are giving.
 
Nope. That's not how it is called. Would you go back to Civics 101, please?
The House impeaches. The Senate holds a TRIAL which is not called an impeachment. If convicted the president is removed.
You are thinking about the sentence wrong. To impeach is to indict. The special form of indictment (noun) is adjudicated in the Senate in an impeachment ( adjective) trial. Think of 'impeachment' as noun in one sentence, and an adjective in another.
 
Yes, why? Since when 6 days ago (when I posted it) doesn't qualify as the last few days?

365 days ago wouldn't qualify. Maybe 30 wouldn't. But 6? Yep.
Well since your aim was to refute my article from 2 days prior... No, 6 "doesn't qualify".
 
If Senator Sanders really loves his country, he will bow out.

A person in his physical condition (not to mention his age) should not be subjecting himself to the rigors of campaigning next year.


It is time for him to pack it in -- for the sake of his loved ones and the nation.


If he doesn't and actually wins the nomination, all eyes will NOT be on him but on his Vice Presidential selection.
 
Sanders must make his own decision - after all, it is his life that is in the balance.

If he does leave the race I would expect the vast majority of his support to go to Elizabeth Warren which just might be enough to take her through the nomination. But a great deal could happen - particularly in primaries with a heavy African American influence since so far she has not had broad appeal to that sector of the Democratic party.
 
You are thinking about the sentence wrong. To impeach is to indict. The special form of indictment (noun) is adjudicated in the Senate in an impeachment ( adjective) trial. Think of 'impeachment' as noun in one sentence, and an adjective in another.

No. What I'm saying is that "the Senate will not impeach" (issued as if the Senate could impeach, but politically won't), the original phrase I highlighted as erroneous, IS erroneous, because impeaching the president is not the Senate's prerogative. It's what The House does. The Senate holds a trial. You can call it an impeachment trial if you want, but it doesn't make any less true that the Senate does not impeach. The Senate potentially CONVICTS and removes from office a previously impeached president. The Senate trial, whatever you call it, is not to impeach, since if it is held, it means that the president has already been impeached.

The analogy with other court criminal proceedings is crystal clear. You don't hold a trial to indict a criminal. You hold a trial to either find the indicted criminal guilty or not guilty of the crime he was indicted for. That trial doesn't intend to indict the criminal who has already been indicted, thus the trial. You simply call it a trial. You don't call a trial of an indicted criminal, an "indictment trial."

The poster should have said "The Senate will not convict even if the House impeaches" and that would have been correct.

An error was highlighted, and now you're jumping through loops to try to hide it. Sorry, it won't work.

Maybe you can even find in the press or even in documents, someone talking about the impeachment trial of President Clinton. I don't know if there are such examples, but I'll tell you this: if there are, whoever issued that statement is also wrong. It's as simple as that.

The House impeaches (equivalent to an indictment). The Senate holds a trial of the already impeached (indicted) president. Period, full stop. Crystal clear, no semantic ambiguity.
 
Well since your aim was to refute my article from 2 days prior... No, 6 "doesn't qualify".

I simply said that support is growing for impeachment in the last few days (true), which is much more important than whether or not people think Trump is doing a good job as president.

Clinton was doing a great job as president. The economy was booming. Still, he was impeached because Barr successfully proved that he committed perjury. Doing a good job doesn't give the president a license to break the law.

Even good presidents who enjoy approval for the job they are doing, can be impeached.

So, no, what I highlighted still applies.
 
If Senator Sanders really loves his country, he will bow out.

A person in his physical condition (not to mention his age) should not be subjecting himself to the rigors of campaigning next year.


It is time for him to pack it in -- for the sake of his loved ones and the nation.


If he doesn't and actually wins the nomination, all eyes will NOT be on him but on his Vice Presidential selection.

Senator Sanders loves himself. He is an opportunist, and a vacuous populist whose political career has amounted to virtually nothing. Always pumping his chest that he is an "independent" but joining the very party whose rules he criticizes, when it is convenient for him, in order to run for president. If you doesn't know it, he left the party again after the end of the 2016 campaign... then joined again for 2020. He kept running in 2016 past the point when his candidacy was viable, and kept accepting campaign donations even after that point was passed.

He criticized Hillary for corporate donations... when he also accepted donations from corporations (only, they were further down in his list of top donors, simply because he sucked at corporate fundraising, not because of principle, otherwise he would simply refuse those donations).

He criticized the Democratic Party superdelegate system at all turns of the campaign (a system of a party he signed up for, and promised to abide by that party's rules, the same rules he was very aware of when he signed up), saying that popular vote should prevail over the superdelegate system. That was before he got way behind Hillary by the millions, in the popular vote. Then he turned around and said that the superdelegates should vote for him over the popular vote, because according to him he had better odds of beating Trump. That's what is called hypocrisy.

By the way, the supposed better odds came from polls of a hypothetical scenario that was unrealistic since at that time he couldn't win the nomination, and the only reason those poll numbers were there was because he had never been properly attacked by the Hillary campaign (afraid she'd need his supporters later) or the Trump campaign (delighted that he was damaging the more viable candidate). His popularity numbers would have dropped once the campaign attacks started, exposing his many weaknesses. That was never necessary, because he lost, BOTH the popular vote, and the delegate vote. Even without the superdelegate system, he would have lost, too.

So, Bernie Sanders, once truly and thoroughly defeated (the loser), went through the move of apparently supporting Hillary... too little too late. He created the Bernie or Bust phenomenon which ended up hurting the Democratic chances.

Bernie was one of the important factors (not the only one or even the most important one, but definitely, one of them) in securing Trump's victory. That's a spoiler role. That's how much he "loves the country." If Bernie had dropped out a couple of months earlier and energetically fought off the Bernie or Bust movement, most likely we wouldn't have Trump as president. Given how close the election was (decided by a total of 80,000 votes in 3 states), each and every one of the important factors (the main one, Hillary's incompetence and unforced errors, and all the others, Comey's letter, the Russians, the hackers, racism and xenophobia, etc.) would have prevented Trump's victory if they did not happen. That DOES include one loser Senator from Vermont called Bernie Sanders. Without Bernie Sanders we wouldn't have Trump, just like without Comey's letter we wouldn't have Trump, etc.). He is not the only one to blame, but he definitely shares part of the blame.

Bernie is nothing more than a failed narcissist. He is a loser, and will lose again this time. The sooner that loser drops off, the better.
 
If Bernie Sanders drops out, then I would say it's over. Elizabeth Warren would be very likely to win the nomination because she was second choice to Bernie supporters. Kamala Harris would not gain that many points unless Joe Biden drops out or has a medical emergency.
 
Nancy is not interested in finding any truth. Nancy wants to drag out the media exposure as long as possible for her agenda. Also, she doesn't want the Repubs to have subpoena power, it would be so embarrassing for so many DIMMs.
If she's not interested in truth, why so many subpoenas? Why is she filing new charges for obstruction and contempt? Why investigate? Why not just call for a vote without investigating?
 
Nope. That's not how it is called. Would you go back to Civics 101, please?
The House impeaches. The Senate holds a TRIAL which is not called an impeachment. If convicted the president is removed.
Trust me, since the Senate will be holding a trial based on articles of impeachment,
it will be called an Impeachment Hearing. Insults are unnecessary.
 
If Senator Sanders really loves his country, he will bow out.

A person in his physical condition (not to mention his age) should not be subjecting himself to the rigors of campaigning next year...
How about if he got a fake medical exam that showed he had the body of a 25 year old.... That he was the most amazing physical specimen in the history of the world? Let's not compare mental health to trump, that would not be fair.
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