I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and here

[Zalatix]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

California doesn't matter. That's right.

Cities aren't the country.

The President Represents the nation as a whole, and the whole nation rejected Hillary.

It appears you still haven't come to grips with that fact.

Enemies? You hear yourself? In a thread whining about political division you straight admit your side is the Anti-American force driving the country apart. Thanks for that, ammunition for all future posts of yours.

LOL anti-American. You mean anti bigotry, anti racism, anti sexism, anti religious theocracy? We're only anti-American to the people who want to take us back to the 19th century. Feel free to use my divisiveness as ammunition. I'll pick divisiveness over weak kneed surrender to the regressive knuckle dragging Christianist Taliban worldview of the Trumpets.

And keep making a fool of yourself by saying the country's largest economy doesn't matter. We matter more than any other part of the country.

And again, the nation as a whole did NOT reject Hillary when MORE PEOPLE VOTED FOR HILLARY THAN TRUMP. Math! Learn it! The math refutes you. Oh wait you're a student of Betsy DeVos aren't you?

 

[Praxas]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

Yes, Paraxas, I forgot, you're a paragon of non-biased fortitude, we should all strive to be as amazingly centered as you, however will I get over the scathying remarks you have lain at my feet?
:roll:

So in other words I'm correct, that's all you had to say hypocrite.

 

[Zalatix]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

Actually, I think it's safe to say that not all of those "65 million people" agree on anything, much less that they are this "tidal wave" army you keep talking about.

They agreed that Hillary was better than Trump. And they outnumber the Trump voters, too.

And have you looked at the news? They're taking down Trump at EVERY turn. Look at how Trumpcare 1.0 failed. The Muslim ban failed. The wall is utterly defunct. All because millions of people have been politically at war with Trump. (Not physically at war, must clarify that since you Conservatives and Independents get all triggered by those words LOL)

 

[volsrock]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

Back in 2012 I "ranted" about the violence of the police and the right wing, from cops beating and arresting Occupy protesters to Tea Partiers punching people, bringing firearms to brandish in public, bullying liberals and even incidents of chasing them out of parks all the way up on their own home driveways. I got in trouble for merely saying that Democrats needed to learn how to defend themselves from the ongoing and coming waves of violence that were coming their way.

Tim Kaine’s son Woody Kaine – Charged with Mob Violence

 

[Skeptic Bob]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

Most of the violence is coming from the left.

Going solely off of my own observations, which is certainly not any kind of evidence, my impression is that most of the vandalism and rioting type of violence, by a large margin, is radical left wing. But most of the actual lethal violence is radical right wing. And of course neither of those groups of criminals represent the left wing or right wing as a whole.

 

[Renae]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

LOL anti-American.

You did state you want to destroy the Union...

You mean anti bigotry,

We could start with your view of Conservatives as "enemies", right there is intellectually bigotry.

anti racism,

And which party believes that minorities aren't capable of getting free, government ID's again?

anti sexism,

You wanted us to vote for Hillary just because she's female...

anti religious theocracy?

The only people on about a theocracy are Progressives.

We're only anti-American to the people who want to take us back to the 19th century. Feel free to use my divisiveness as ammunition. I'll pick divisiveness over weak kneed surrender to the regressive knuckle dragging Christianist Taliban worldview of the Trumpets.

And keep making a fool of yourself by saying the country's largest economy doesn't matter. We matter more than any other part of the country.

California, doesn't matter.
Electoral College wise it didn't save Hillary, so she could have gotten 100% of the state's votes and would still be Mrs. Clinton today.
California Losing Ground: Nestlé, Other Businesses Flee

And again, the nation as a whole did NOT reject Hillary when MORE PEOPLE VOTED FOR HILLARY THAN TRUMP. Math! Learn it! The math refutes you. Oh wait you're a student of Betsy DeVos aren't you?

Electoral College, not direct voting is who wins, and how we determine the desires of the country, sorry did you miss that class?

 

[Renae]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

So in other words I'm correct, that's all you had to say hypocrite.

If that's what makes you feel better about yourself, please keep thinking that. Admitting you're delusional is far more damning about you than anything I could post.

 

[Tigerace117]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

They agreed that Hillary was better than Trump. And they outnumber the Trump voters, too.

And have you looked at the news? They're taking down Trump at EVERY turn. Look at how Trumpcare 1.0 failed. The Muslim ban failed. The wall is utterly defunct. All because millions of people have been politically at war with Trump. (Not physically at war, must clarify that since you Conservatives and Independents get all triggered by those words LOL)

Well, considering that it wasn't much of a ban since Muslims from....well...most of the Muslim world didn't have to go through the whole proposed three month pause period....that's less of an accomplishment than it would seem.

Likewise, Trump immediately backed away from the whole idea once he got elected, leaving me skeptical he ever actually intended to bulid it in the first place.

Meanwhile, the more radical people on both sides of the spectrum get, the more disgusted the people in the middle-- i.e. the people you need to win to gain political power--- get with y'all.

 

[eohrnberger]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

https://heatst.com/culture-wars/stu...or-for-objecting-to-no-whites-day-of-absence/

A fine example of the tyranny and fascism of the liberal / progressive left, as well as the indoctrination of the same in presently is infecting the education system. People are not allowed to hold differing opinions, else they face ostracism and excoriation, the epitome of lack of diversity, the epitome of mob rule and group think.

These are not the ways forward to a better future.

 

[eohrnberger]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

Which shows why your criticism of me lacks any credibility: you fail basic logic. If someone says you've previously never done something, the onus is not on them to prove you've never done it.

Run along sonny. Go bother someone else. You certainly aren't worth the effort, and your claim is unfounded.
I most certainly am not going to go digging around 10K posts just to appease you.

The onus is on you to show an incident that shows they're wrong. I am betting - admittedly recklessly - that you cannot do that. Your silly responses show that, indeed, you have nothing.



LOL a lot of my cited facts came from Fox News, Daily Mail and other right wing sources.


Well then there's the door, right? Or maybe I offend your jimmies and you just can't leave?

WTF?

 

[ludin]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

Going solely off of my own observations, which is certainly not any kind of evidence, my impression is that most of the vandalism and rioting type of violence, by a large margin, is radical left wing. But most of the actual lethal violence is radical right wing. And of course neither of those groups of criminals represent the left wing or right wing as a whole.

Actually it is a very minority and really the extremists of the party similar to the OP.
THe entire argument from the OP is nothing more than a paintbrush fallacy.

While that might work on that sludge of a site democratic underground it will not work that well here.

 

[ludin]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

A fine example of the tyranny and fascism of the liberal / progressive left, as well as the indoctrination of the same in presently is infecting the education system. People are not allowed to hold differing opinions, else they face ostracism and excoriation, the epitome of lack of diversity, the epitome of mob rule and group think.

These are not the ways forward to a better future.

The liberal left more so the ones that are emerging do not understand what tolerance means.

 

[Spartacus FPV]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

Going solely off of my own observations, which is certainly not any kind of evidence, my impression is that most of the vandalism and rioting type of violence, by a large margin, is radical left wing. But most of the actual lethal violence is radical right wing. And of course neither of those groups of criminals represent the left wing or right wing as a whole.

Well, after suicides, the majority of gun violence for example is done by inner city gangs. Is it your estimation that these individuals vote Republican?

 

[joG]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

Citation please.

Something that every last poster on here has failed to do is actually disprove what I said in the OP. I, unlike you guys, have provided a giant wealth of diverse citations for my claims.

Just call up the statistics instead of tertiary literature.

 

[Zalatix]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

You did state you want to destroy the Union...

What is your opinion on people waving the Confederate flag?

We could start with your view of Conservatives as "enemies", right there is intellectually bigotry.

YYYYYup. I'm a bigot against regressive racists, sexists, homophobes, and theocrats. Shout it on the mountaintops. Conservatives are antithetical to progress.

And which party believes that minorities aren't capable of getting free, government ID's again?

God, I love watching you spout un-sourced nonsense. I love refuting it even more!
Voter ID has been thrown out in one case even by Trump's new right wing Supreme Court:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/us/politics/voter-id-laws-supreme-court-north-carolina.html?_r=0

And Texas's Voter ID law has been thrown out by another court
Texas voter ID law designed to discriminate, judge rules - CNNPolitics.com

So take up your complaints with the courts, not me LOL

You wanted us to vote for Hillary just because she's female...

I was originally a Berniecrat. I voted for Hillary due to naked pragmatism: like the majority of voters (who in fact do matter), I saw her as being a hilariously better choice than some orange Nazi.

The only people on about a theocracy are Progressives.

Funny how I factually refuted this nonsense with a citation in the OP:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvhfPe1RVcA

And I could drown you with links from countless groups who believe America is a Christian nation, but I'll go easy on you with this:
Proof That America Was Founded As A Christian Nation – International Cops for Christ

California, doesn't matter.

Keep repeating this lie, will ya?

Electoral College wise it didn't save Hillary, so she could have gotten 100% of the state's votes and would still be Mrs. Clinton today.
California Losing Ground: Nestlé, Other Businesses Flee

Despite that, California STILL leads the nation in job creation

Electoral College, not direct voting is who wins, and how we determine the desires of the country, sorry did you miss that class?

The Electoral College was nothing more than a way to defend slavery.

Don't lecture me about the Electoral College. It's crap and it needs to go.

 

[eohrnberger]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

The liberal left more so the ones that are emerging do not understand what tolerance means.

Agreed. They know neither of tolerance, nor diversity of thought, nor diversity of opinion, nor diversity of position.

They are the anti-diversity political movement.

 

[Zalatix]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

Run along sonny. Go bother someone else. You certainly aren't worth the effort, and your claim is unfounded.
I most certainly am not going to go digging around 10K posts just to appease you.

Not a chance. I'll bother you until you leave. Backing down is not in my genes.

 

[Zalatix]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

Actually it is a very minority and really the extremists of the party similar to the OP.
THe entire argument from the OP is nothing more than a paintbrush fallacy.

While that might work on that sludge of a site democratic underground it will not work that well here.

Actually his observations are supported by fact. Again, how many antifa do you know of that go around slashing throats and shooting up churches?

LOL you people just can't answer that now can you?

 

[Skeptic Bob]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

Well, after suicides, the majority of gun violence for example is done by inner city gangs. Is it your estimation that these individuals vote Republican?

No, but I thought we were talking about politically motivated violence. If a gang member shoots somebody over turf I don't consider that left wing violence just as I don't consider it right wing violence if a jealous Trump supporter kills his cheating wife. Their violence isn't politically motivated.

 

[Spartacus FPV]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

No, but I thought we were talking about politically motivated violence. If a gang member shoots somebody over turf I don't consider that left wing violence just as I don't consider it right wing violence if a jealous Trump supporter kills his cheating wife. Their violence isn't politically motivated.

Fair enough, perhaps I took that bold text completely out of the context of your post. Or this thread for that matter.

 

[Zalatix]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

Fun question for everyone who thinks left wing violence and right wing violence are equivalent: which would you rather have, a knife slashing your throat, a bullet in the chest, or a punch to the face?

 

[ludin]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

No, but I thought we were talking about politically motivated violence. If a gang member shoots somebody over turf I don't consider that left wing violence just as I don't consider it right wing violence if a jealous Trump supporter kills his cheating wife. Their violence isn't politically motivated.

There are extremists on both sides and both do really bad things.
I could list a number of left wing attacks that have occured but that is not a normal picture of what is going on.

 

[Spartacus FPV]

Oh look, a Socialist defending political violence

Fun question for everyone who thinks left wing violence and right wing violence are equivalent: which would you rather have, a knife slashing your throat, a bullet in the chest, or a punch to the face?

Does it matter if I'm dead regardless? I've seen a man die from merely being shoved, hitting his head on the concrete.

Stop trying to justify your violence. Tu quoque is a fallacy.

 

[Zalatix]

Re: Oh look, a Socialist defending political violence

Does it matter if I'm dead regardless? I've seen a man die from merely being shoved, hitting his head on the concrete.

Stop trying to justify your violence. Tu quoque is a fallacy.

Richard Spencer is dead? Which right winger has died from left wing violence? Which church was ever shot up by antifa?

I have never justified left wing violence. What people have done here is try to equate liberal punches with the mass shootings and slashings done by right wingers.

One gets you a fat lip, the other has you bleeding out on the ground.

 

[calamity]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

Most of the violence is coming from the left.

Incorrect. Did you not notice all the links cited in the three-post OP?