I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and here

[eohrnberger]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

it is going to get worse trust me.

Oh lord. It's already bad enough now. It getting worse is only going to cause people to withdraw.

 

[Harshaw]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

So how is this DU NOT a liberal / progressive echo chamber?
Their positions and their belief in their positions are so strong that neither can withstand questioning by someone with a different point of view? :lamo
That's actually very telling of both DU, the people are allowed there, and the people who are leading that.

Well, that's exactly what it is. Not exactly a breeding ground for critical thinking.

 

[ludin]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

A liberal beating someone with a bike lock, a Conservative gunning down black people in a church, a Conservative gunning down two Indian engineers screaming "get out of my country", a Conservative slashing people's throats

WHATS THE DIFFERENCE!!!

there is no difference. violence is violence and stuff like that is evil people doing evil things. it really does go beyond left and right.
however given your posts so far I don't expect you to realize this or acknowledge it as truth.

 

[eohrnberger]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

A liberal beating someone with a bike lock, a Conservative gunning down black people in a church, a Conservative gunning down two Indian engineers screaming "get out of my country", a Conservative slashing people's throats

WHATS THE DIFFERENCE!!!

Overly broad brush? It has rightly been observed that there are extremists on both sides that take to actions they shouldn't.

 

[Zalatix]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

I am no supporter of ideologically based isolationism and tribalism. Both would apply to both groups.

So if I look up your past posts I can see you condemning the body-slamming of a reporter or the right wing killing of two Indian engineers? Or any sort of right wing violence at all?

I can guarantee without even looking at your posting histories that NOT ONE PERSON ON THIS THREAD has ever condemned right wing murders and most of you have spent ample time screaming about left wingers punching someone. The pattern never fails. I'll make this broadbrush assumption because I have a strong chance of being right.

 

[eohrnberger]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

So if I look up your past posts I can see you condemning the body-slamming of a reporter or the right wing killing of two Indian engineers? Or any sort of right wing violence at all?

I can guarantee without even looking at your posting histories that NOT ONE PERSON ON THIS THREAD has ever condemned right wing murders and most of you have spent ample time screaming about left wingers punching someone. The pattern never fails. I'll make this broadbrush assumption because I have a strong chance of being right.

So another fine example of politically and ideologically based tribalism. Congrats. You've become what you've been criticizing.

 

[ludin]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

Oh lord. It's already bad enough now. It getting worse is only going to cause people to withdraw.

it is probably the best bet at this point.
hyper partisanship as you know is well not worth getting into a discussion with
because there is no discussion to be had.

 

[Harshaw]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

I guess you never heard of the far-right Free Republic? Try posting liberal stuff there.
OH WAIT THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE REASONS, amiright?

The Free Republic is pretty much exactly like the DU, sure. Both are echo chambers. But YOU are all-in for one and not the other. Oh, wait; that's OK because reasons, am I right?

 

[Zalatix]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

So another fine example of politically and ideologically based tribalism. Congrats. You've become what you've been criticizing.

LOL nice deflection. I was right. You never have condemned acts of right wing violence until this moment.

 

[Zalatix]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

The Free Republic is pretty much exactly like the DU, sure. Both are echo chambers. But YOU are all-in for one and not the other. Oh, wait; that's OK because reasons, am I right?

Nope, actually I am for splitting this country up. The left can go one way and pursue progress while the Right can have their no gays, women stay in the kitchen, no people of color wonderland.

There is no way possible that America can reconcile our differences. It's over. SWAT teams intervene when marriages are in a state half as sorry as this country is.

 

[Harshaw]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

Nope, actually I am for splitting this country up. The left can go one way and pursue progress while the Right can have their no gays, women stay in the kitchen, no people of color wonderland.

There is no way possible that America can reconcile our differences. It's over. SWAT teams intervene when marriages are in a state half as sorry as this country is.

Well, aside from not actually addressing the point . . .

This is :screwy

And is, in fact, textbook tribalism, as mentioned earlier.

 

[ludin]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

Well, aside from not actually addressing the point . . .

This is :screwy

And is, in fact, textbook tribalism, as mentioned earlier.

yep there is no point in responding. you will not get a reasonable response.

 

[Zalatix]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

Well, aside from not actually addressing the point . . .

This is :screwy

Let me explain this to you slowly:
if I support breaking up the country
then it follows that I don't care about right wing echo chambers. Nothing I can do to stop them.

Get it?

And if you think this country is ever going to go back to being civil with the way things have deteriorated since Clinton left office, then you are in no position to use the :screwy smiley, ever. Things are never going to get better. Ever. At least until there is a civil war, and this time it will mean the end of this country as it exists now.

 

[Slingshot Bob]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

Yes, but he said that to who again? Oh yeah, he was talking metaphorically.

Trump was talking LITERALLY.


Once again, which is worse, rioters, or gunning down a church full of people?
Which is worse, rioters, or slashing people's throats?

My point is not challenging whether it's wrong for both sides - that is true. My point is that one side is punching Nazis at worst, while the other side is murdering people in broad daylight!

Trying to say Dylan roof was a republican is just false, like trying to say the Taliban is conservative. And the which is worse game is only another excuse, like saying only Nazis are being punched

 

[joG]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

(continued)
So, in light of this veritable army of documented facts:

Is SELF DEFENSE still only wrong or deplorable or insane when Democrats prepare for it, is white supremacist terrorism and murders STILL something that Conservatives are going to ignore or even cheer?

Or I guess we can still just keep getting killed and bullied. But remember - this violence is actually what is empowering the Right. America always, at large, supports bullies when they win. America always turns on bullies when their violence gets turned back. That's why Americans still make jokes about kids getting their lunch forcibly taken from them - and why at the same time they then think it's great when the bully gets floored.

Self defense is not a crime. Unprovoked aggression is. The Right is now in a stage of mass, unprovoked aggression, terrorism and random senseless murders. The police are completely walking away from this from a prevention standpoint.

What do we do? Die, get the hell beaten out of us, or stand up for ourselves?

More of the same. Crime has been falling since the 1980s. As to the cops shooting Blacks, you do realize that the numbers show that Whites are downed more often on statistically meaningful examination?

That doesn't mean that it might not be better, if we managed to bring up ghetto kids better.

 

[Zalatix]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

Trying to say Dylan roof was a republican is just false, like trying to say the Taliban is conservative. And the which is worse game is only another excuse, like saying only Nazis are being punched

The Taliban is Conservative - look at their belief system. It's the exact same as American Christian Conservatism, except their god is Allah and well I'm not entirely sure what god Conservatives bow to because I'm not going to risk my soul by saying it's Jesus.

As for Dylan Roof, well Republican is as Republican does. And before you rant about how the Klan was Democrats - they're all Republican now. I wonder why.

 

[Zalatix]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

More of the same. Crime has been falling since the 1980s. As to the cops shooting Blacks, you do realize that the numbers show that Whites are downed more often on statistically meaningful examination?

Citation please.

Something that every last poster on here has failed to do is actually disprove what I said in the OP. I, unlike you guys, have provided a giant wealth of diverse citations for my claims.

 

[Slingshot Bob]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

The Taliban is Conservative - look at their belief system. It's the exact same as American Christian Conservatism, except their god is Allah and well I'm not entirely sure what god Conservatives bow to because I'm not going to risk my soul by saying it's Jesus.

As for Dylan Roof, well Republican is as Republican does. And before you rant about how the Klan was Democrats - they're all Republican now. I wonder why.

Yeah sure, Christians chop off heads and throw gays off of rooftops....:roll:

The real danger facing this country is people who are delusional.

 

[Slingshot Bob]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

Citation please.

Something that every last poster on here has failed to do is actually disprove what I said in the OP. I, unlike you guys, have provided a giant wealth of diverse citations for my claims.

And completely excused all the left wing violence.

 

[Zalatix]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

Yeah sure, Christians chop off heads and throw gays off of rooftops....:roll:

The real danger facing this country is people who are delusional.

We're talking about America here, please try to keep up.

In America white terrorism is more prevalent than Islamist terrorism. Again, I cite the facts, you just spout unsourced garbage!
Study: White Extremists More Dangerous Than Islamists Since 9/11 | Time.com

 

[Zalatix]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

And completely excused all the left wing violence.

Again, every last poster on here has failed to do is actually disprove what I said in the OP. I, unlike you guys, have provided a giant wealth of diverse citations for my claims.

If you can't disprove the assertions that I backed up with citations, your rant about left wing violence has no validity whatsoever. Leftists aren't shooting up churches or slashing throats. Irrefutable fact.

 

[ludin]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

Citation please.

Something that every last poster on here has failed to do is actually disprove what I said in the OP. I, unlike you guys, have provided a giant wealth of diverse citations for my claims.

Violent Crime Rates -- US Statistics | National Review

it took a 5 second google search to confirm that violent crime and gun crime in the US is on the way down.
this has been the trend since 1994.

 

[Mycroft]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

A liberal beating someone with a bike lock, a Conservative gunning down black people in a church, a Conservative gunning down two Indian engineers screaming "get out of my country", a Conservative slashing people's throats

WHATS THE DIFFERENCE!!!

There is no difference, though you are trying to establish some kind of difference.

Look. I gave only one example of leftists violence. I could give more. Heck, what do you think is worse: Your examples of lone wolves or the numerous examples of CROWDS of leftists bloodying peaceful protesters or people who just want to see someone speak, destroying public and private property, fighting the police with explosives, etc?

My only point is that, despite your contention, it isn't worse coming from the right. It doesn't mean the right is more violent than the left.

 

[Zalatix]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

Violent Crime Rates -- US Statistics | National Review

it took a 5 second google search to confirm that violent crime and gun crime in the US is on the way down.
this has been the trend since 1994.

"As to the cops shooting Blacks, you do realize that the numbers show that Whites are downed more often on statistically meaningful examination?" - laughably unsupportable.

 

[Zalatix]

Re: I warned about all of this RW violence YEARS AGO - on Democratic Underground and

There is no difference, though you are trying to establish some kind of difference.

Look. I gave only one example of leftists violence. I could give more. Heck, what do you think is worse: Your examples of lone wolves or the numerous examples of CROWDS of leftists bloodying peaceful protesters or people who just want to see someone speak, destroying public and private property, fighting the police with explosives, etc?

My only point is that, despite your contention, it isn't worse coming from the right. It doesn't mean the right is more violent than the left.

:screwy

So in your universe murdering people is the exact same as punching them. Funny how the courts can put you to death for slashing throats while punching and body slamming only get a fine. Man, this country's laws are crazy for disagreeing with you on this. ****ing crazy judges!