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How Many Guns...

I voted for neither in the 2016 primary and general election. Because choice A was a piece of **** who I know would trample on the 2nd amendment, open our border to illegals and subject us every stupid pc and social justice nonsense nonsense out there. Choice B was her donor, friend and supported many of the things she supported before he decided he wanted to actually run for president. It seems to me only a moron would knowingly vote for either option in 2016 and it wasn't like we didn't have better choices in the 2016 primaries when there was around a dozen other primary candidates.

That said I will most likely vote for Trump in the 2020 elections because I do like some of the things he is trying to do. He has proved him self a little despite his recent past.
I also voted independent...and unless the Libertarians get a decent candidate for a change will again in 2020. But given ONLY a choice between Trump and a rat candidate? So far every piece of **** they have put up for the office in both 2016 and so far in 2020 is committed to destroying the country by offering as much free **** as it takes to buy the election...damn the cost. And there is no question when it comes to who they will nominate for the Supreme Court.
 
Liberals aren't taking guns. But they WANT to.
Not true. Liberal ARE taking guns...they are just doing it at the state level.

Of course Feinstein et all do have legislation pending that will ban some 155 specific weapons with criteria that would ban virtually all semiautomatic weapons.
 
Not true. Liberal ARE taking guns...they are just doing it at the state level.

Of course Feinstein et all do have legislation pending that will ban some 155 specific weapons with criteria that would ban virtually all semiautomatic weapons.

This is such nonsense
 
To be completely clear; I fully support the 2nd amendment and support our rights to own firearms; I don't support irrational fringe ideas like owning rocket launchers, or owning no guns at all. I am against the NRA because they've become essentially a PR firm for the republicans. I support local firearm dealers and local shooting ranges, etc.

But I don't support the fake narrative that the libs are taking your guns, hence the question.

It's a local issue and not a federal issue.

So how do you feel about planned parenthood, essentially a PR firm for the democrats.
 
I know she wasn't pro-2nd amendment. But considering the fact Trump before 2012 was donating to liberal democrats and RINO republicans IE the establishment. He supported and praised the jobs they were doing.He hung out with the Clintons. Out of all the liberal democrats and RINO republicans he donated to it was Hillary he donated the most to.He is also on record on supporting a ban on semiautomatic firearms under the guise of an assault weapons ban.
I don't care what he did years ago, we all make mistakes, and learn from them. Nor do I care if he doesn't toe the current Republican party line - we had a gang in Congress that did that during the entire Obama administration.

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BTW I say pro-2nd amendment instead of pro-gun. They are not the same. Because I am sure Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Diane FIenstien, Queen Elizabeth,Kim Jong Il and every oppressive dictator on the planet and other "elites" are pro-gun when it comes to having guns protect their asses. But they would deny us the average citizen of having the protection of a gun.
Sorry, I have to say that's a specious argument. If you support the right to keep and bear arms, IMHO you ARE pro-gun.
 
I asked the question, you failed to answer but spewed a big diatribe about some nonsense and some other nonsense.

How many of your guns did Obama take? Answer the question.

None.. he actual reduced gun control.
 
I see no point in banning them if they are properly licensed
Gosh does that mean my finger needs to be licensed? Or rubber bands? Personally all I need is my finger and knowing how to hold the firearm for maximum wastage of ammo. However sometimes the wastage is fun.
 
I also voted independent...and unless the Libertarians get a decent candidate for a change will again in 2020. But given ONLY a choice between Trump and a rat candidate? So far every piece of **** they have put up for the office in both 2016 and so far in 2020 is committed to destroying the country by offering as much free **** as it takes to buy the election...damn the cost. And there is no question when it comes to who they will nominate for the Supreme Court.
I'll vote for the most likely to beat the left. Which won't be hard to do.
 
Gosh does that mean my finger needs to be licensed? Or rubber bands? Personally all I need is my finger and knowing how to hold the firearm for maximum wastage of ammo. However sometimes the wastage is fun.

Then you dont need a bump stock. See that was easy
 
Then you dont need a bump stock. See that was easy
No I don't but their are people that do. I just don't really see it as a big issue,and no I'm not saying it was the right thing to do. Because I'm smart enough to know that one ban leads to another and so forth. So let us see now...how many times has a bump stock been used in a manner like in Vegas? Oh yeah once as in one time.
 
All of them. Did I win anything? :lol:
 
No I don't but their are people that do. I just don't really see it as a big issue,and no I'm not saying it was the right thing to do. Because I'm smart enough to know that one ban leads to another and so forth. So let us see now...how many times has a bump stock been used in a manner like in Vegas? Oh yeah once as in one time.

Yes they need them . Desperately. My God this is an emergency man. Lol
 
Then you dont need a bump stock. See that was easy

Just as easy as telling you that you can't have any of the other things that you don't "need."
 
None, because he didn't put forth any gun control, nor did Congress during their super-majority, prior to the Republicans taking back everything and shutting down the governmental process.

Also, because I didn't yet own any guns, because I didn't feel it was necessary or a useful allocation of my very limited funds.
 
Thank you OP.

The "taking your guns" conspiracy theory pretty much stops here.

Conservatives won't stop until they can have a Bradley parked in their driveway.
 
Thank you OP.

The "taking your guns" conspiracy theory pretty much stops here.

Conservatives won't stop until they can have a Bradley parked in their driveway.

Tanks and other tracked vehicles are legal to own.
 
I don't care what he did years ago, we all make mistakes, and learn from them. Nor do I care if he doesn't toe the current Republican party line - we had a gang in Congress that did that during the entire Obama administration.


So you are saying if Dianne Feinstein decided to change her political affiliation to republican, independent or libertarian and started espousing right leaning libertarian beliefs you would vote for her if he ran for president in the 2020 or 2025 election? Because after all that legislation she signed and legislation she attempted to get signed would be years ago.




Sorry, I have to say that's a specious argument. If you support the right to keep and bear arms, IMHO you ARE pro-gun.

Nothing specious about it. If you are pro-2nd amendment then you support the right to keep and bear arms. You are aware of the fact that the second amendment was created so that we the average citizen can have the necessary weapons to defend against invasions and even remove a tyrannical government. That means you support average citizens being able to own semiautomatic firearms as well as automatic firearms because these are the weapons a militia would use.

Anti-2nd amendment trash on the other hand try to claim that they are pro-gun because some of them think that as long as you are allowed to own a musket then your right to keep and bear arms hasn't been infringed on.
 
I also voted independent...and unless the Libertarians get a decent candidate for a change will again in 2020. But given ONLY a choice between Trump and a rat candidate? So far every piece of **** they have put up for the office in both 2016 and so far in 2020 is committed to destroying the country by offering as much free **** as it takes to buy the election...damn the cost. And there is no question when it comes to who they will nominate for the Supreme Court.


I agree with that completely. Its why no leftist will get my vote.
 
So we'll take your non-answer as a zero.

So since Ted Cruz didn't stop anyone from having an elective abortion then that must mean he isn't anti-abortion.

It was because of the vigilance of 2nd amendment rights groups why Obama did not get any anti-2nd amendment legislation he wanted to sign into law.
 
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