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How many actual nazis are there in the US?

I agree with Smoke and Mirrors. The number that I've heard is somewhere between 10 and 20 thousand.
 
Apparently you are another who knows zippo about Islam. You want to condemn Islamic terrorists for what they do, I agree. Condemning Islam or all Muslims makes you no different than someone from the KKK or from how you inaccurately portray Islam.

I do not, of course, condemn all Muslims - that cheap little trick does not really work now, does it?

Having lived in two Islamic countries I know quite a lot about Islam. If you wish to defend that dreadful intolerant philosophy and political programme go right ahead. But perhaps that we be more difficult than throwing around childish insults.
 
Seems no one, especially those who like to lament or call people nazis won't answer, I thought I'd make this it's own topic.


out of a country of 350 million people, how many do you believe identify as national socialists, fascist, and/or white nationalists?


How big is the problem?

How are you defining "NAZIS"?

If you're talking about those people who openly self-identify as being Neo-NAZISs, probably around 10,000, according to the FBI.

https://vault.fbi.gov/gangs-extremist-groups



If you're talking about the people the Lefties CALL a "NAZIS" because they didn't vote for Hillary, or they are winning a debate against a Leftie... well, somewhere around 180 Million!

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Apparently you are another who knows zippo about Islam. You want to condemn Islamic terrorists for what they do, I agree. Condemning Islam or all Muslims makes you no different than someone from the KKK or from how you inaccurately portray Islam.

It'd be no different than condemning the entirety of christianity because there happens to be a whackjob group of protestants called the KKK :lol:
 
I do not, of course, condemn all Muslims - that cheap little trick does not really work now, does it?

That's good to hear. Rethink how you comment so you don't give the opposite impression.

Having lived in two Islamic countries I know quite a lot about Islam. If you wish to defend that dreadful intolerant philosophy and political programme go right ahead. But perhaps that we be more difficult than throwing around childish insults.

Where you lived is really irrelevant. What you understand is relevant. So, do you understand that any philosophy and ideology can be interpreted any number of ways and it is the behaviors associated with that interpretation that are usually problematic, not the philosophy/ideology in and of itself?
 
It'd be no different than condemning the entirety of christianity because there happens to be a whackjob group of protestants called the KKK :lol:

Absolutely.
 
"in the United States"

Read my quote and comprehend it fully before commenting on it please.

Thanks for your scorn. Noted.
I was referencing their ability to spread quickly. Jeeez!
Try comprehending mine in the future.
 
As in "Membership" ... Maybe 10-20 k.

As in support in part or as a whole the policies, views and ideas.... millions, including the child in the White House. Just look at the whole nazi terror attack in Charlottesville and the defence of the Nazies by the right.
 
That's good to hear. Rethink how you comment so you don't give the opposite impression.



Where you lived is really irrelevant. What you understand is relevant. So, do you understand that any philosophy and ideology can be interpreted any number of ways and it is the behaviors associated with that interpretation that are usually problematic, not the philosophy/ideology in and of itself?

You can 'interpret' Nazi ideology side-ways, upside down, any which way, and it is still disgusting. The same is true for Islam.

Consider this: by far the greater victims of Islamic oppression are Muslims. It is MUSLIM 13 year old girls who have a noose placed around their necks by a mullah in Iran, it is MUSLIM women who are stoned to death for 'adultery' in Saudi Arabia. Millions of Muslim live under theocratic tyrannies around the world. Have a little compassion for them.
 
The point being is that if there are less than 1000 in a country of 350 million are they really a concern?
let’s say there are only 1000, (there’s more) if those “1000” produce one or two more Tim McVeigh’s. Is that a national threat?
 
When they feel comfortable enough to do crap like this:

White-Nationalist-Rally-Charlottesville.jpg


yes - they are a concern.
That’s a threat because this ideology prays on weak people who have no direction and are looking for something to believe in. Like that guy who blew up the federal building in Oklahoma.
 
You can 'interpret' Nazi ideology side-ways, upside down, any which way, and it is still disgusting. The same is true for Islam.

I wish I'd bet someone that you'd Godwin. I'd be really rich right now. If you don't know the difference between Nazism and Islam then you need to educated yourself.

Consider this: by far the greater victims of Islamic oppression are Muslims. It is MUSLIM 13 year old girls who have a noose placed around their necks by a mullah in Iran, it is MUSLIM women who are stoned to death for 'adultery' in Saudi Arabia. Millions of Muslim live under theocratic tyrannies around the world. Have a little compassion for them.

Your appeal to emotion logical fallacy is just that. Since we know that many Muslims do not do or agree with any of the things you mention above, we know that Islam is not the issue, but the interpretation of Islam by certain individuals or groups.
 
I wish I'd bet someone that you'd Godwin. I'd be really rich right now. If you don't know the difference between Nazism and Islam then you need to educated yourself.



Your appeal to emotion logical fallacy is just that. Since we know that many Muslims do not do or agree with any of the things you mention above, we know that Islam is not the issue, but the interpretation of Islam by certain individuals or groups.

Lenin often referred to 'useful idiots'. Those who, though not themselves Communists, were always ready to leap to its defence. How pleased the Islamists must be to enjoy the same kind of support.
 
Lenin often referred to 'useful idiots'. Those who, though not themselves Communists, were always ready to leap to its defence. How pleased the Islamists must be to enjoy the same kind of support.

Typical. When Islamophobes are confronted on the lack of logic of their bigotry, they digress into insults as you did. Doesn't surprise me in the least that you have nothing.
 
That's good to hear. Rethink how you comment so you don't give the opposite impression.



Where you lived is really irrelevant. What you understand is relevant. So, do you understand that any philosophy and ideology can be interpreted any number of ways and it is the behaviors associated with that interpretation that are usually problematic, not the philosophy/ideology in and of itself?




Name one islamic country that has gained liberties and become less oppressive the more islamic it became. I think that's what he's talking about. Individual muslims are fine, sure, but when they get together to form a country and government, peoples rights start getting oppressed.
 
Name one islamic country that has gained liberties and become less oppressive the more islamic it became. I think that's what he's talking about. Individual muslims are fine, sure, but when they get together to form a country and government, peoples rights start getting oppressed.

Blame that on people in power, not on Islam.
 
Name one islamic country that has gained liberties and become less oppressive the more islamic it became. I think that's what he's talking about. Individual muslims are fine, sure, but when they get together to form a country and government, peoples rights start getting oppressed
Well said, reverend.

But you can also say the same aboot Christianity.
If Christians decided to run the country it would turn into a huge mess, and you can quote me on that
 
Well said, reverend.

But you can also say the same aboot Christianity.
If Christians decided to run the country it would turn into a huge mess, and you can quote me on that

Yeah, most theocracies would tend to turn dictatorial.
 
Seems no one, especially those who like to lament or call people nazis won't answer, I thought I'd make this it's own topic.


out of a country of 350 million people, how many do you believe identify as national socialists, fascist, and/or white nationalists?


How big is the problem?

Somewhere in the vicinity of 30% of Americans are Trump supporters, and most of them appear to be white-nationalists, so there is a huge base to draw from.

By comparison, the communists only wish they had so many well-disposed American supporters.
 
Somewhere in the vicinity of 30% of Americans are Trump supporters, and most of them appear to be white-nationalists, so there is a huge base to draw from.

By comparison, the communists only wish they had so many well-disposed American supporters.

You believe that 30% of Americans are white nationalists?
 
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