How big of a threat is Russia to the United States?

[Tangmo]

They do what they can here and there to manipulate things. We do it too; everybody does it. It's nothing to piss our pants over. They're not a threat to us.

Putin and his general staff had to change their pants while they were watching this.

Gen. Milley is presently chairman of the Joint Chiefs.






Putin Trump Rowers = Making America Russia Instead.

Trying to play it down, deny it or dismiss it is a guaranteed fail. It's how you guys mark yourselves.

 

[Highlanders]

Putin and his general staff had to change their pants while they were watching this.

Gen. Milley is presently chairman of the Joint Chiefs.






Putin Trump Rowers = Making America Russia Instead.

Putin and his general staff had to change their pants while they were watching this.

Gen. Milley is presently chairman of the Joint Chiefs.


I'm sorry, I'm unable to access the video.
But if it's USA USA USA dogma, it's empty space.
Why has America not entered Venezuela or stopped Iranian tankers?
Because they the USA politicians and USA military have been warned by Russia and China, not to take that step.
If we think back to just before the major American al Qaeda mercenaries going into Syria, seven missiles fired at Syria by American military in the Mediterranean all were shot down by Russia! That was a warning. Not heard about it, why not?
American missiles are now obsolete, thanks to Russian technology, Mach 30 nuclear missiles, the Avantgard, being just one of many, and Mach 30 defensive missiles..... the S500, oooh, that's right, America cannot compete with such technology, nor has the intellect to produce such weapons. Your military complex is so corrupt they have to resort to blackmail brown envelopes and prostitutes to get technology accepted, Patriot missiles, F35, Boeing.....a few examples.
Any American first strike which your military idiots keep spouting about, will result in American nations sodom and Gomorrah, Gog and Magog, American cities in nuclear ashes.
Let us thank Russia, that both they and China have clearly stated, they will never have a first strike option.
Come on America...... wake up and smell the coffee! Or your demise!

The demise of the dollar, the demise of your line of credit, the demise as number one global position brought about by the greed, bigotry, and deep Zionist hands in your coffers and hands in your tax dollars! Reap that which you sow. Whoop.... what went out the window.... swift banking.... and sloping and sliding behind, is the bullion markets....gold bars singing..... hi ho hi ho, it's off to Moscow and Beijing we go......

 

[Fledermaus]

Goodness me, just how far does someone need to go, leading you lot up the garden path?
Aipac want American troops in Afghanistan, they don't give a fig how many American sons die, they just want access to the gold copper, rare earth, etc etc etc!
But ask yourself why are American troops in Afghanistan!
1. Under the Taliban 2% of the worlds supply of heroin came from Afghanistan, under the protection of American military 126% a twenty six over production of the WORLDS supply comes from Afghanistan.
2. Work it out for yourself who transports the heroin! It certainly isn't the Taliban.
3. The Taliban were told by American and oil executives a pipeline was going through Afghanistan or the Taliban were going to be removed from office, by force. The excuse used, 9/11, and I've yet to meet anyone stupid enough to believe the official doctrine.
4. The Taliban are in they're country, they aren't terrorists, they are freedom fighters. The terrorists have invaded there country wearing American uniforms. Of course they are going to murder every single foreigner in they're territory, they told you more than 15 years ago they would, which part of these facts do you fail to understand!
5. Get your illegal military camps, your CIA torture chambers, your airfields out of Afghanistan, and no more Americans will die, simple!
6. If Russia wanted to kill Americans, they would not go through third parties, they are more than capable to do so themselves. Russian weapons are far superior to anything the American military complex is capable or will be capable in the next thirty years. So only If American masters AIPAC decides American military is to start WW3, will it happen, but American cities will be burnt to the ground. Not so Russian cities, they have the S500 which also is far in advance of the obsolete Patriot missile system the Saudis have found out, don't work!

Ooooh....

AIPAC.


AIPAC controls everything.

DA Joooz.

 

[calamity]

Putin and his general staff had to change their pants while they were watching this.

Gen. Milley is presently chairman of the Joint Chiefs.






Putin Trump Rowers = Making America Russia Instead.

Trying to play it down, deny it or dismiss it is a guaranteed fail. It's how you guys mark yourselves.

Putin, Xi and Kim rolled Don like a drunk on New Years. That Trump toadies failed to pay attention was calculated into the equation. “Hey! Look over there. Bubba Wallace is tearing down a confederate flag!”

 

[Tangmo]

Putin and his general staff had to change their pants while they were watching this.

Gen. Milley is presently chairman of the Joint Chiefs.






Putin Trump Rowers = Making America Russia Instead.

Putin and his general staff had to change their pants while they were watching this.

Gen. Milley is presently chairman of the Joint Chiefs.


I'm sorry, I'm unable to access the video.
But if it's USA USA USA dogma, it's empty space.
Why has America not entered Venezuela or stopped Iranian tankers?
Because they the USA politicians and USA military have been warned by Russia and China, not to take that step.
If we think back to just before the major American al Qaeda mercenaries going into Syria, seven missiles fired at Syria by American military in the Mediterranean all were shot down by Russia! That was a warning. Not heard about it, why not?
American missiles are now obsolete, thanks to Russian technology, Mach 30 nuclear missiles, the Avantgard, being just one of many, and Mach 30 defensive missiles..... the S500, oooh, that's right, America cannot compete with such technology, nor has the intellect to produce such weapons. Your military complex is so corrupt they have to resort to blackmail brown envelopes and prostitutes to get technology accepted, Patriot missiles, F35, Boeing.....a few examples.
Any American first strike which your military idiots keep spouting about, will result in American nations sodom and Gomorrah, Gog and Magog, American cities in nuclear ashes.
Let us thank Russia, that both they and China have clearly stated, they will never have a first strike option.
Come on America...... wake up and smell the coffee! Or your demise!

The demise of the dollar, the demise of your line of credit, the demise as number one global position brought about by the greed, bigotry, and deep Zionist hands in your coffers and hands in your tax dollars! Reap that which you sow. Whoop.... what went out the window.... swift banking.... and sloping and sliding behind, is the bullion markets....gold bars singing..... hi ho hi ho, it's off to Moscow and Beijing we go......

No matter how you slice it it's still baloney.

Russia Fanboyz have been posting this make believe stuff for going on 30 years with updates of system names and platforms.

Meanwhile the Brics fell, they shattered and got swept up to include their Brics Development Bank that never got capitalized by more than a measly $40 million bucks.

The RMB remains China's own Parker Bros. money while there isn't enough gold in the universe for a gold standard to support the global $100 Trillion GDP. The USD$ remains solid and not replaceable as the global fiat reserve currency and the currency of global trade -- indeed Putin is still begging to get back into the G-7 which China knows is closed to it too.

Xi's classically Chinese grandiose One Belt One Road is One Big Nothing as nobody wants anything to do with Chinese swarming into their country to take it over and which CCP Dictator Tyrants would snare into a classic Debt Trap these countries elites want nothing to do with.

The F-35 is cancelled to Turkey by vote of Congress while Erdogan cries out for Patriot missiles he can't have either as Russia continues to support fighters in Syria killing Turkey's troops -- 40 more of 'em the other day -- while Erdogan and Putin continue to haggle over the S-400 that Nato calls the "Growler" because it makes so much racket when they turn it on which is seldom. Pentagon tried everything with Turkey over the past ten years and now it's overwith, ie, Turkey is shut out as economic and manufacturing interdependence is being phased out globally and across the board.

So everything you posted and anything you will ever post in these matters are baloney sandwiches, borscht and horseradish.

 

[dex4974]

Making America Russia Instead.

Good lord. :roll:

 

[Tangmo]

Good lord. :roll:

Pentagon said in 2015 Russia is behind Door #1 and China is behind Door #2.

Pentagon can deal with China's couple of hundred nuclear armed missiles while dealing with Russia's thousands of 'em is impossible.

MAD and massive retaliation are less viable presently which is why US continues to keep first strike on the table while Russia and China do not. Russia and China know better than to threaten USA with a first strike nuclear doctrine. NK is meanwhile the wild card to everyone regardless of alignment.

So long as the US has not (not ever) renounced first strike the Russians and the Chinese know they need to keep their hands on the table where everyone can see 'em. Iran btw is behind the Pentagon's Door #3.

Congress gave Pentagon $1 Trillion to upgrade the US nuclear arsenal. That and the US never ruling out a first strike should keep the nuclear peace indefinitely.

 

[Highlanders]

Ooooh....

AIPAC.


AIPAC controls everything.

DA Joooz.

Imagine expecting contradiction and getting, this..... !
Like neutered dogs.

 

[Integrityrespec]

Keep in mind that a handful of years ago their yearly GDP was smaller than the city of Tokyo.

Not much with a good strong American leader, with Joe Biden, we will be in trouble right away.

 

[Highlanders]

Pentagon said in 2015 Russia is behind Door #1 and China is behind Door #2.

Pentagon can deal with China's couple of hundred nuclear armed missiles while dealing with Russia's thousands of 'em is impossible.

MAD and massive retaliation are less viable presently which is why US continues to keep first strike on the table while Russia and China do not. Russia and China know better than to threaten USA with a first strike nuclear doctrine. NK is meanwhile the wild card to everyone regardless of alignment.

So long as the US has not (not ever) renounced first strike the Russians and the Chinese know they need to keep their hands on the table where everyone can see 'em. Iran btw is behind the Pentagon's Door #3.

Congress gave Pentagon $1 Trillion to upgrade the US nuclear arsenal. That and the US never ruling out a first strike should keep the nuclear peace indefinitely.

First strike is a new concept, even for the cretins in the Whitehorse.
Civilised thinking people, those not lead by the nose like sheep would see the obvious threats to everyone including themselves. Thank god it's the Russians that have these excellent missile technology, because if for any reason, those that run America, (which certainly isn't trump, he cannot string a sentence together that makes sense), decide to fire nuclear weapons, those idiots supporting first strike tactics will get a first hand taste of their stupidity.
Russia and China have clearly stated, any nuclear attack, will have an answer, meaning, mutual self destruction.
Reading the garbage of individuals posts, your like schoolboys, bragging, surely you cannot be that shallow or silly? Where is the intellect, the thought, the basic human feeling for your fellow human beings?
Russia is behind door 1......... goodness me....my ten year old grandson would have deeper thoughts than this nonsense.

 

[Fledermaus]

Imagine expecting contradiction and getting, this..... !
Like neutered dogs.

AIPAC... AIPAC....

Bwaaaakkkk

Sqwaaakkk

 

[Highlanders]

Ooops .... sorry on 02 June 2020, Russia changed its nuclear policy after continually repeating warnings of Americas change of nuclear policy.
Russia has stated, it will consider using nuclear warhead if a convential strike damaged Russia, Russian allies, Russian troops or material damage or which could impinge nuclear retaliatory strikes.
So my friend, as Russia has the technology to destroy America, but trying in every way to mitigate American military ignorance and stupidity. As Russia has the ability to destroy even American hypersonic missiles if they America military complex could manage to replicate Russian technology .... easily with the Russian S500. Bragging rights are Russian, not that they would ever lower themselves behave in that manner!
Open your eyes and smell the coffee.....

 

[Highlanders]

AIPAC... AIPAC....

Bwaaaakkkk

Sqwaaakkk

“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
― Euripides, The Bacchae

 

[2distracted]

IMHO, Russia alone is a fairly small threat, but when combined with other (existing) threats that may amplify what havoc they could (would?) create to the moderate level.

Yes..good answer

 

[Fledermaus]

“Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.”
― Euripides, The Bacchae

People with AIPAC addiction are a rather *special* breed.

And your hard on for the US...

Interesting.

 

[Highlanders]

People with AIPAC addiction are a rather *special* breed.

And your hard on for the US...

Interesting.

With the greatest respect to your opinion, I have no affinity with debt slavery, educationally ignorant, the death cult to which you belong, your executives corruption of all decency, your parasitic blood sucking behaviours on each other, things you consider acceptable no normal civil society would accept.
No, I have no wish to go anywhere near America, and it's thin plastic veneer over immorality. The Americans themselves I've met are really nice friendly people, working with the restrictions society forced on them. Those families destroyed by health bills of a loved one! The nations states destruction of society and establishments individuals profiting from the import of drugs. Ooh I could go on, but you get my drift. It all could be changed so easily, it took two world wars for the nations of these islands to get that rights, it took two parochial, selfish, self centred greedy hypocritical immoral English generations to give it away to Tories.

 

[Highlanders]

Putin and his general staff had to change their pants while they were watching this.

Gen. Milley is presently chairman of the Joint Chiefs.






Putin Trump Rowers = Making America Russia Instead.



No matter how you slice it it's still baloney.

Russia Fanboyz have been posting this make believe stuff for going on 30 years with updates of system names and platforms.

Meanwhile the Brics fell, they shattered and got swept up to include their Brics Development Bank that never got capitalized by more than a measly $40 million bucks.

The RMB remains China's own Parker Bros. money while there isn't enough gold in the universe for a gold standard to support the global $100 Trillion GDP. The USD$ remains solid and not replaceable as the global fiat reserve currency and the currency of global trade -- indeed Putin is still begging to get back into the G-7 which China knows is closed to it too.

Xi's classically Chinese grandiose One Belt One Road is One Big Nothing as nobody wants anything to do with Chinese swarming into their country to take it over and which CCP Dictator Tyrants would snare into a classic Debt Trap these countries elites want nothing to do with.

The F-35 is cancelled to Turkey by vote of Congress while Erdogan cries out for Patriot missiles he can't have either as Russia continues to support fighters in Syria killing Turkey's troops -- 40 more of 'em the other day -- while Erdogan and Putin continue to haggle over the S-400 that Nato calls the "Growler" because it makes so much racket when they turn it on which is seldom. Pentagon tried everything with Turkey over the past ten years and now it's overwith, ie, Turkey is shut out as economic and manufacturing interdependence is being phased out globally and across the board.

So everything you posted and anything you will ever post in these matters are baloney sandwiches, borscht and horseradish.

1. BRICS is active and more members are joining all the time, but because of threats of American sanctions, low profile.
2. At present it is illegal to have a gold standard, it's in written agreement between all swift users, there can be no gold standard.
3. And do you think for one second any nation the American military have butchered want them in they're country? The Chinese are asked to come into the nation as it's always a positive and reciprocal relationship.

 

[Tangmo]

But the s500 can travel at Mach 30 for interception, America cannot and will not have comparative missile technology for at least thirty years. The American military have alternative military technology, to protect themselves, crying Americans sailors,

Your Russian S-400 and S-500 have two fatal vulnerabilities. One is that US cruise missiles that fly below the S systems radars have the unimpeded path to destroy it. Another is that the S systems don't have enough missiles to withstand a determined US onslaught of several missiles attacking it in a couple of waves.

Moreover the S systems cannot stand alone and survive, ie, the S system needs defenses around it which, if defenses can be mustered, are destroyed by ordinary means. Worse the S systems radars are weak at distinguishing friendly aircraft from hostile aircraft. Nato designation of the Russian S-400 / S-500 Triumf system is the Growler because of the noises it makes when it is turned on which is seldom except to test the radars again and again without any new successes.

So no matter how you slice it in any of your Russia posts all of it is still baloney borscht with horseradish.

 

[Tangmo]

1. BRICS is active and more members are joining all the time, but because of threats of American sanctions, low profile.
2. At present it is illegal to have a gold standard, it's in written agreement between all swift users, there can be no gold standard.
3. And do you think for one second any nation the American military have butchered want them in they're country? The Chinese are asked to come into the nation as it's always a positive and reciprocal relationship.

1. The Brics have fallen and they like Humpty Dumpty had a great fall and all your chirping can't put them together again. India in 2015 became a Strategic (Defense) Partner of the United States and US use of all India military bases to include on combat deployments against a third country. Shanghai Cooperation Organization is on the same Brics path to nowhere. Xi Jinping's hairbrain One Belt One Road is One Big Nothing as no country wants Chinese swarming into it to take the place over in the midst of Beijing's Belt and Road classic debt trap. Only Pakistan that is Beijing's BFF is participating yet Pakistan stopped construction to throw out the swarm of Chinese and take over the construction work itself minus the mass of Chinese that had set up there.

2. There isn't enough gold in the universe for a gold standard to support the $100 Trillion global GDP. Neither are Russia and China succeeding in establishing their own SWIFT system, major reasons being the USD is the global reserve currency, the USD$ is the currency of global trade to include the Petrodollar; and because the ruble and rmb are Parker Bros. play money good only inside the border of each country that continues to need USD$ to support its economy and financial system.

3. The 10 member Association of Southeast Asian Nations that border the South China Sea and that since the 1950s has always been an economics only grouping has voted to also become a common defense body to counter China and to stand up to Beijing. Japan is their model, ie, interoperability with Nato forces, platforms, systems. Indeed Japan has completed the major repositioning of its Self Defense Forces from the north of Japan against Russia to the south of Japan to defend against China. It's these countries of the region who know China the greedy and authoritarian bully for thousands of years and now that they and their populations are prosperous to include democracy they're not going to take it any more.

 

[avatar]

Do you think Russia is stupid enough to ramp up hostilities? They understand their place in the world. They're not the super villain stereotypes they're made out to be in movies. Also their GDP is not irrelevant in a discussion about their level of threat to our way of life.

They have already ramped up hostilities and so far they are winning.

 

[wellwisher]

Keep in mind that a handful of years ago their yearly GDP was smaller than the city of Tokyo.

Russia is not much of a threat. However, the Democrats attempted to increase their threat value when Obama and the Clintons sold Russia uranium for weapons, and allowed Russia to invade Ukraine, unopposed. The hope of the swamp was to renew the cold war, since it made the swamp appear useful.

The real threat is China since they are expanding borders way beyond Russia, they steal trade and government secrets and use economic dirty tricks, such as currency fixing and trade barriers. The corona virus was made in China, and China let it fester all over the word rather give a warning, The result on the world and US economy favored China and the hopes of the Democrats, who have a not so secret alliance. Biden's email received billions in loans with a low interest rate

The Dems never bring uo the idea of the china threat. Instead they are trying to renew the collusion delusion scam before the election and the indictments.

 

[Tangmo]

Putin and his general staff had to change their pants while they were watching this.

Gen. Milley is presently chairman of the Joint Chiefs.






Putin Trump Rowers = Making America Russia Instead.

Putin and his general staff had to change their pants while they were watching this.

Gen. Milley is presently chairman of the Joint Chiefs.

If we think back to just before the major American al Qaeda mercenaries going into Syria, seven missiles fired at Syria by American military in the Mediterranean all were shot down by Russia! That was a warning. Not heard about it, why not?
American missiles are now obsolete, thanks to Russian technology, Mach 30 nuclear missiles, the Avantgard, being just one of many, and Mach 30 defensive missiles..... the S500, oooh, that's right, America cannot compete with such technology, nor has the intellect to produce such weapons. Your military complex is so corrupt they have to resort to blackmail brown envelopes and prostitutes to get technology accepted, Patriot missiles, F35, Boeing.....a few examples.
Any American first strike which your military idiots keep spouting about, will result in American nations sodom and Gomorrah, Gog and Magog, American cities in nuclear ashes.
Let us thank Russia, that both they and China have clearly stated, they will never have a first strike option.
Come on America...... wake up and smell the coffee! Or your demise!

I've been through this before with other Russian Trolls.

The missiles were Israeli Sparrows fired by Israel to fall into the sea and to provide a distraction to Syria and Russia while in the air. Your lie has been a long time favorite of the Russia Trolls no matter how many times the lie is exposed and corrected. Russia is not mass producing the T-14 Amata tank because it can't afford the technology that is unreliable. The word on Russia anyway is that your heroes can make something you can throw in the mud and it works fine yet when your guys start tinkering around with high tech stuff they're always in over their heads.

 

[Highlanders]

1. The Brics have fallen and they like Humpty Dumpty had a great fall and all your chirping can't put them together again. India in 2015 became a Strategic (Defense) Partner of the United States and US use of all India military bases to include on combat deployments against a third country. Shanghai Cooperation Organization is on the same Brics path to nowhere. Xi Jinping's hairbrain One Belt One Road is One Big Nothing as no country wants Chinese swarming into it to take the place over in the midst of Beijing's Belt and Road classic debt trap. Only Pakistan that is Beijing's BFF is participating yet Pakistan stopped construction to throw out the swarm of Chinese and take over the construction work itself minus the mass of Chinese that had set up there.

2. There isn't enough gold in the universe for a gold standard to support the $100 Trillion global GDP. Neither are Russia and China succeeding in establishing their own SWIFT system, major reasons being the USD is the global reserve currency, the USD$ is the currency of global trade to include the Petrodollar; and because the ruble and rmb are Parker Bros. play money good only inside the border of each country that continues to need USD$ to support its economy and financial system.

3. The 10 member Association of Southeast Asian Nations that border the South China Sea and that since the 1950s has always been an economics only grouping has voted to also become a common defense body to counter China and to stand up to Beijing. Japan is their model, ie, interoperability with Nato forces, platforms, systems. Indeed Japan has completed the major repositioning of its Self Defense Forces from the north of Japan against Russia to the south of Japan to defend against China. It's these countries of the region who know China the greedy and authoritarian bully for thousands of years and now that they and their populations are prosperous to include democracy they're not going to take it any more.

1. I agree the American tactical military plans are well advanced, there is also the American militaries use of all Greek military bases, you forgot to mention. But thankfully, Russia and China, both noticed and did mention it! While the SCO is fully financed and meeting all incremental targets at present, it's strategies and policies..... all being met because it's with recipricol strategies, and aspirations? What can you not understand, it's beneficial to all countries concerned, no need for military boots on ones partners neck, I.e American negotiations and tactics. Also, China can dump its dollar reserves at the same time, causing untold financial damage to good ol' USA. All that quantative easing.... coming home to roost!
Do you think anyone wants American military crawling all over it? Let's look at Iraq, the Iraqis detest everything done to them, by your illegally parked troops and black water mercenaries on there sovereign territory, Syria, the same, Yemen, the same, Cuba, the same, oooh and let's not forget Africom, more mercenaries more illegal underhanded filth, you must remember, eyes are watching your every move, and let me tell you, they see your every weakness. I had an uncle who only when he was in his nineties told me stories

I had written much more but continually thrown out, and my post partially deleted.... I'm writing it all again, but you get the idea!

 

[Tangmo]

1. Also, China can dump its dollar reserves at the same time, causing untold financial damage to good ol' USA. All that quantative easing.... coming home to roost!

I had written much more but continually thrown out, and my post partially deleted.... I'm writing it all again, but you get the idea!

Your problem is that your posts are of a very low quality and the reason is obvious.

Your intellectual and financial cliche about Beijing's "dollar reserves" is tripe that has made the rounds for decades now despite being disproved and false to begin with.

In late 2015 for instance Beijing had to sell $500 billion of its USD$ forex holdings due to the global markets depreciating the RMB/Yuan.

That was half of the USD$ forex holdings of the Party's personal bank, the central bank, of $1 Trillion. As expected and predicted, the sale of the $500 billion of US holdings by the People's Bank of China went smoothly, quietly, profitably for the buyers. That is, the global markets sucked up the US Treasuries wholesale while there was zero effect on the USA economy and financial system, the USD, interest rates and so on.

The sale went so smoothly nobody noticed it either then or up to the present to include yourself who knows zero about the sale as your post indicates.

Beijing's total forex holdings fell meanwhile to $2.1 Trillion from $2.8 Trillion. Indeed when Beijing has an economic emergency in China that forex reserve will disappear in an instant as its $12 Trillion economy goes bust. The result is going to be China going bankrupt which also means your beloved Russia is going to get a hernia. For the USA and Europe it will be the firesale to remember as they proceed to buy the place up. Coming soon.

 

[Highlanders]

Your problem is that your posts are of a very low quality and the reason is obvious.

Your intellectual and financial cliche about Beijing's "dollar reserves" is tripe that has made the rounds for decades now despite being disproved and false to begin with.

In late 2015 for instance Beijing had to sell $500 billion of its USD$ forex holdings due to the global markets depreciating the RMB/Yuan.

That was half of the USD$ forex holdings of the Party's personal bank, the central bank, of $1 Trillion. As expected and predicted, the sale of the $500 billion of US holdings by the People's Bank of China went smoothly, quietly, profitably for the buyers. That is, the global markets sucked up the US Treasuries wholesale while there was zero effect on the USA economy and financial system, the USD, interest rates and so on.

The sale went so smoothly nobody noticed it either then or up to the present to include yourself who knows zero about the sale as your post indicates.

Beijing's total forex holdings fell meanwhile to $2.1 Trillion from $2.8 Trillion. Indeed when Beijing has an economic emergency in China that forex reserve will disappear in an instant as its $12 Trillion economy goes bust. The result is going to be China going bankrupt which also means your beloved Russia is going to get a hernia. For the USA and Europe it will be the firesale to remember as they proceed to buy the place up. Coming soon.

Two facts we do know, as Russia has already stated, 1. This situation we now find ourselves is not going to help anyone, we all lose!
2. Russia, Brazil, China, India, South Africa, Iran, Kuwait, Venezuela all no longer rely on the dollar to purchase there oil and gas!
Perhaps you might notice, that's three quarters of the worlds population. Poof went the petro dollar!
The repercussions of this necessity, are yet to be truly felt. And all could of been avoided had greed and petty minded American puppets testosterone not got in the way of grown up politics and negotiation! But then Americans would of needed to be free to make there own decisions!