House Republicans again block passage of disaster aid bill

[HumblePi]

[h=1]House Republicans again block passage of disaster aid bill[/h]

House Republicans again block passage of disaster aid bill - CNNPolitics

Washington (CNN)For the second time in a week, House Republicans blocked the passage of a more than $19 billion disaster relief bill, further delaying the approval of funds that cleared the Senate last week with overwhelming bipartisan support.

House Democrats attempted to pass the bill via unanimous consent on Tuesday, but Republican Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky objected. Republican Rep. Alex Mooney of West Virginia was on the House floor standing next to Massie for the objection. It only takes one person to object in order to block a bill from passing immediately through unanimous consent.

With Congress in recess, House Democrats will have another chance at a second pro forma this coming Thursday, and then again next week when the House returns on Monday.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer was also in the chamber Tuesday to call on Republicans not to object.
"I urge them to do so because millions of people ... are at risk," he said.

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It only takes one Republican to block this disaster relief bill, this is the second time one has blocked it passing. Trump has already said he would sign the bill when it comes to his desk, even if it didn't contain the border funding. There's not $3 billion for his wall in the disaster bill, so the GOP refuses to pass it.

Nancy Pelosi was right when she said "the heartlessness of House Republicans knows no bounds". North Dakota Republican Sen. Kevin Cramer was quite succinct when he said ""A lot gets made of the fact that one person did this. The one person that did it obviously represents several others who would have done it if not for them,"

 

[AlbqOwl]

House Republicans again block passage of disaster aid bill

House Republicans again block passage of disaster aid bill - CNNPoliticsWashington (CNN)For the second time in a week, House Republicans blocked the passage of a more than $19 billion disaster relief bill, further delaying the approval of funds that cleared the Senate last week with overwhelming bipartisan support.



House Democrats attempted to pass the bill via unanimous consent on Tuesday, but Republican Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky objected. Republican Rep. Alex Mooney of West Virginia was on the House floor standing next to Massie for the objection. It only takes one person to object in order to block a bill from passing immediately through unanimous consent.

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It only takes one Republican to block this disaster relief bill, this is the second time one has blocked it passing. Trump has already said he would sign the bill when it comes to his desk, even if it didn't contain the border funding. There's not $3 billion for his wall in the disaster bill, so the GOP refuses to pass it.

Nancy Pelosi was right when she said "the heartlessness of House Republicans knows no bounds". North Dakota Republican Sen. Kevin Cramer was quite succinct when he said ""A lot gets made of the fact that one person did this. The one person that did it obviously represents several others who would have done it if not for them,"

So how many times do Democrats refuse to vote for an otherwise good bill because it doesn't include a provision they want? I can assure you it is every bit as often if not more often than happens on the Republican side.

So who is more heartless? Democrats who refuse to allow President one thin dime for a wall THEY all wanted before President Trump was elected and would hold a disaster relief bill hostage because of it? Or Republicans who are committed to national security as much as they are committed to providing disaster relief?

So the bill goes for a vote and all have to go on the record instead of passing it on a voice vote. (Voice votes that involved anything that affects the people in any way, i.e. imposes a law, mandate, regulation, or costs money, should be outlawed anyway.)

 

[OrphanSlug]

It must have been Christmas Treed somehow, is there something buried in the bill the authors were trying to make a wedge issue.

 

[HumblePi]

So how many times do Democrats refuse to vote for an otherwise good bill because it doesn't include a provision they want? I can assure you it is every bit as often if not more often than happens on the Republican side.

So who is more heartless? Democrats who refuse to allow President one thin dime for a wall THEY all wanted before President Trump was elected and would hold a disaster relief bill hostage because of it? Or Republicans who are committed to national security as much as they are committed to providing disaster relief?

So the bill goes for a vote and all have to go on the record instead of passing it on a voice vote. (Voice votes that involved anything that affects the people in any way, i.e. imposes a law, mandate, regulation, or costs money, should be outlawed anyway.)

Address the topic of the thread, stop deflecting.

 

[Bullseye]

[h=1]House Republicans again block passage of disaster aid bill[/h]

House Republicans again block passage of disaster aid bill - CNNPolitics

Washington (CNN)For the second time in a week, House Republicans blocked the passage of a more than $19 billion disaster relief bill, further delaying the approval of funds that cleared the Senate last week with overwhelming bipartisan support.

House Democrats attempted to pass the bill via unanimous consent on Tuesday, but Republican Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky objected. Republican Rep. Alex Mooney of West Virginia was on the House floor standing next to Massie for the objection. It only takes one person to object in order to block a bill from passing immediately through unanimous consent.

With Congress in recess, House Democrats will have another chance at a second pro forma this coming Thursday, and then again next week when the House returns on Monday.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer was also in the chamber Tuesday to call on Republicans not to object.
"I urge them to do so because millions of people ... are at risk," he said.

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It only takes one Republican to block this disaster relief bill, this is the second time one has blocked it passing. Trump has already said he would sign the bill when it comes to his desk, even if it didn't contain the border funding. There's not $3 billion for his wall in the disaster bill, so the GOP refuses to pass it.

Nancy Pelosi was right when she said "the heartlessness of House Republicans knows no bounds". North Dakota Republican Sen. Kevin Cramer was quite succinct when he said ""A lot gets made of the fact that one person did this. The one person that did it obviously represents several others who would have done it if not for them,"

So, that really makes my wonder what's REALLY in the bill. First off the Dems have a strong majority in the House- if only all the Dems had voted for it, it would have passed. There's more to the story.

 

[tres borrachos]

[h=1]House Republicans again block passage of disaster aid bill[/h]

House Republicans again block passage of disaster aid bill - CNNPolitics

Washington (CNN)For the second time in a week, House Republicans blocked the passage of a more than $19 billion disaster relief bill, further delaying the approval of funds that cleared the Senate last week with overwhelming bipartisan support.

House Democrats attempted to pass the bill via unanimous consent on Tuesday, but Republican Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky objected. Republican Rep. Alex Mooney of West Virginia was on the House floor standing next to Massie for the objection. It only takes one person to object in order to block a bill from passing immediately through unanimous consent.

With Congress in recess, House Democrats will have another chance at a second pro forma this coming Thursday, and then again next week when the House returns on Monday.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer was also in the chamber Tuesday to call on Republicans not to object.
"I urge them to do so because millions of people ... are at risk," he said.

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It only takes one Republican to block this disaster relief bill, this is the second time one has blocked it passing. Trump has already said he would sign the bill when it comes to his desk, even if it didn't contain the border funding. There's not $3 billion for his wall in the disaster bill, so the GOP refuses to pass it.

Nancy Pelosi was right when she said "the heartlessness of House Republicans knows no bounds". North Dakota Republican Sen. Kevin Cramer was quite succinct when he said ""A lot gets made of the fact that one person did this. The one person that did it obviously represents several others who would have done it if not for them,"

I don't think the Republicans realize how incredibly ignorant and heartless they look. Trump, to his credit, has vowed to sign it.

Absurd.

 

[AlbqOwl]

Address the topic of the thread, stop deflecting.

Excuse me? I am absolutely addressing the specific topic of the thread.

 

[Rogue Valley]

Excuse me? I am absolutely addressing the specific topic of the thread.

You weren't addressing this specific OP bill. Who do you think you're crappin?

 

[dcsports]

[h=1]House Republicans again block passage of disaster aid bill[/h]

House Republicans again block passage of disaster aid bill - CNNPolitics

Washington (CNN)For the second time in a week, House Republicans blocked the passage of a more than $19 billion disaster relief bill, further delaying the approval of funds that cleared the Senate last week with overwhelming bipartisan support.

House Democrats attempted to pass the bill via unanimous consent on Tuesday, but Republican Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky objected. Republican Rep. Alex Mooney of West Virginia was on the House floor standing next to Massie for the objection. It only takes one person to object in order to block a bill from passing immediately through unanimous consent.

With Congress in recess, House Democrats will have another chance at a second pro forma this coming Thursday, and then again next week when the House returns on Monday.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer was also in the chamber Tuesday to call on Republicans not to object.
"I urge them to do so because millions of people ... are at risk," he said.

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It only takes one Republican to block this disaster relief bill, this is the second time one has blocked it passing. Trump has already said he would sign the bill when it comes to his desk, even if it didn't contain the border funding. There's not $3 billion for his wall in the disaster bill, so the GOP refuses to pass it.

Nancy Pelosi was right when she said "the heartlessness of House Republicans knows no bounds". North Dakota Republican Sen. Kevin Cramer was quite succinct when he said ""A lot gets made of the fact that one person did this. The one person that did it obviously represents several others who would have done it if not for them,"

If you read the story... the congressman is objecting to passing the bill via unanimous consent, stating that it's too big and too important to pass without any discussion or recorded vote in the house.

 

[HumblePi]

So, that really makes my wonder what's REALLY in the bill. First off the Dems have a strong majority in the House- if only all the Dems had voted for it, it would have passed. There's more to the story.

Essentially Democrats refuse to rob $4 billion of the disaster relief intended for those states devastated by last year's hurricanes to go to build Trump's wall. Just so you know in the future, this bill requires a 100% unanimous vote in the House to pass. Although the article explained that already, I guess you skipped that part.

Much of the $19 billion in recovery dollars will go to states hit by Hurricanes Michael and Florence in 2018, mostly Florida, Georgia and Alabama. It also includes money for states ravaged by wildfires, like California and Oregon.
The disaster aid package has been snared by setbacks since before the midterm elections, including Trump’s own determined efforts to block Puerto Rico from receiving more cash.

Republicans and Democrats ultimately agreed to deliver $600 million for Puerto Rico’s nutritional assistance program and $300 million for its community development programs.

Efforts to fund disaster relief were also made more complicated when the White House asked Congress for roughly $4.5 billion in emergency money for the southern border, where authorities and humanitarian efforts had been overwhelmed by a surge of arrivals from Central America.

Democrats had demanded stringent rules for any money going to the White House’s border operations — a hurdle that further delayed a deal. Republicans ultimately agreed to drop their border funding requests, punting that request until later this summer.

Congress last approved a giant disaster aid package in February 2018, which focused on a trio of deadly hurricanes that hit Texas, Florida and Puerto Rico.

So, that's what's in the bill.

 

[HumblePi]

I don't think the Republicans realize how incredibly ignorant and heartless they look. Trump, to his credit, has vowed to sign it.

Absurd.

The people who need it the most live in those red states that elected him, except of course for Puerto Rico and California. Now, with the epic flooding and tornadoes in Oklahoma, Ohio, Missouri and Kansas, where will disaster relief come from for those people who lost homes?

 

[chuckiechan]

[h=1]House Republicans again block passage of disaster aid bill[/h]

House Republicans again block passage of disaster aid bill - CNNPolitics

Washington (CNN)For the second time in a week, House Republicans blocked the passage of a more than $19 billion disaster relief bill, further delaying the approval of funds that cleared the Senate last week with overwhelming bipartisan support.

House Democrats attempted to pass the bill via unanimous consent on Tuesday, but Republican Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky objected. Republican Rep. Alex Mooney of West Virginia was on the House floor standing next to Massie for the objection. It only takes one person to object in order to block a bill from passing immediately through unanimous consent.

With Congress in recess, House Democrats will have another chance at a second pro forma this coming Thursday, and then again next week when the House returns on Monday.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer was also in the chamber Tuesday to call on Republicans not to object.
"I urge them to do so because millions of people ... are at risk," he said.

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It only takes one Republican to block this disaster relief bill, this is the second time one has blocked it passing. Trump has already said he would sign the bill when it comes to his desk, even if it didn't contain the border funding. There's not $3 billion for his wall in the disaster bill, so the GOP refuses to pass it.

Nancy Pelosi was right when she said "the heartlessness of House Republicans knows no bounds". North Dakota Republican Sen. Kevin Cramer was quite succinct when he said ""A lot gets made of the fact that one person did this. The one person that did it obviously represents several others who would have done it if not for them,"

The question is, where is the poison pork pill hidden? It’s in there somewhere, just don’t expect CNN to look for it.

And this gem:

"We're not elected to have things pass through consent without debate," Roy had said. "We should have had a vigorous debate and we should have a debate about why we're not securing the border and why we're spending money we don't have."

 

[MSgt]

So how many times do Democrats refuse to vote for an otherwise good bill because it doesn't include a provision they want? I can assure you it is every bit as often if not more often than happens on the Republican side.

So who is more heartless? Democrats who refuse to allow President one thin dime for a wall THEY all wanted before President Trump was elected and would hold a disaster relief bill hostage because of it? Or Republicans who are committed to national security as much as they are committed to providing disaster relief?

So the bill goes for a vote and all have to go on the record instead of passing it on a voice vote. (Voice votes that involved anything that affects the people in any way, i.e. imposes a law, mandate, regulation, or costs money, should be outlawed anyway.)

Absolutely not. I don't know if you are simply unaware, simply using the Secure Fence Act of 2006 to equate to "all," or simply a partisan liar, but this is absolutely false...

Both Mulvaney and Trump are alluding to the Secure Fence Act of 2006, a bill pushed by the Bush administration that provided $1.4 billion for 700 miles of fencing along the southern border. In 2006, Schumer, along with Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton (who were then senators from Illinois and New York, respectively) voted in favor of the bill.

"The bill before us will certainly do some good. It will authorize some badly needed funding for better fences and better security along our borders, and that should help stem some of the tide of illegal immigration in this country," then-Senator Obama said, speaking on the bill during a floor speech in September of 2006. "But if we think that putting up a few more miles of fence is by any means the whole answer to our immigration problems, then I believe we are seriously kidding ourselves." Despite this criticism, Obama went on to support the bill, along with 25 other Democrats in the Senate and 138 Democrats in the House.

While Democrats have supported increased border security, however, that has not historically translated into support for a wall on the U.S.–Mexico border. The 700 miles of fencing some Democrats voted for in 2006 is a far cry from the 2,000 miles of concrete Trump originally proposed.

Even the GOP knew that "the wall" was only a metaphorical thing that involved correcting bad immigration laws. And 700 miles of fencing is not 2,000 miles of concrete wall. Do you think the Berlin Wall was just a fence?

It wasn't until Trump began pandering to the weakest link among the conservative tribe that the idea morphed into a physical thing among the masses, in which FOX News gave much obnoxious support for against "the left," who, all of sudden, supposedly didn't care about border security. And only after the GOP begged conservatives not to vote for Trump in the Primaries did the GOP begin to adopt the idea of a wall as a physical barrier in order to preserve their jobs from their ravenous, irrational voters.

And let's not forget: when Conservatives chose to betray themselves and everything they once pretended to stand for in order to vote for the piece of trash, they were told that Mexico was going to pay for it....not the U.S. military. Hmm. So, Trump gets massaged for giving the military money, and then Trump gets massaged for stealing it back on order to cover what Mexico isn't going to pay? Conservatives have come a long way with their perverted sense of "support the troop."

And the funny thing (if that wasn't enough): Despite the GOP owning the House, the Senate, and the White House for two full years...they did absolutely nothing but exacerbate bad laws and feed the fire of ignorance. Only after the Democrats took back the House did the GOP start back up their game about the need for a wall, in which now the Democrats won't let them have. So much for Republicans being "committed to National Security." I would think such a thing would show two years worth of GOP effort to reform and fix bad immigration laws between 2016 and 2018. But....no.

 

[AlbqOwl]

Absolutely not. I don't know if you are simply unaware, simply using the Secure Fence Act of 2006 to equate to "all," or simply a partisan liar, but this is absolutely false...




Even the GOP knew that "the wall" was only a metaphorical thing that involved correcting bad immigration laws. And 700 miles of fencing is not 2,000 miles of concrete wall. Do you think the Berlin Wall was just a fence?

It wasn't until Trump began pandering to the weakest link among the conservative tribe that the idea morphed into a physical thing among the masses, in which FOX News gave much obnoxious support for against "the left," who, all of sudden, supposedly didn't care about border security. And only after the GOP begged conservatives not to vote for Trump in the Primaries did the GOP begin to adopt the idea of a wall as a physical barrier in order to preserve their jobs from their ravenous, irrational voters.

And let's not forget: when Conservatives chose to betray themselves and everything they once pretended to stand for in order to vote for the piece of trash, they were told that Mexico was going to pay for it....not the U.S. military. So Trump gets massaged for giving the military money, and then Trump gets massaged for stealing it back on order to cover what Mexico isn't going to pay. Conservatives have come a long way with their perverted sense of "support the troop."

And the funny thing (if that wasn't enough): Despite the GOP owning the House, the Senate, and the White House for two full years...they did absolutely nothing but exacerbate bad laws and feed the fire of ignorance. Only after the Democrats took back the House did the GOP start back up their game about the need for a wall, in which now the Democrats won't let them have. So much for Republicans being "committed to National Security." I would think such a thing would show two years worth of GOP effort to reform and fix bad immigration laws between 2016 and 2018. But....no.

The only two left in the Trump Administration that actually knew anything about national security was General Kelly and General Mattis. And after quitting Trump, the conservative faithful simply turned on them too.

Sorry but I don't want to derail the thread by moving to all this that is all non sequitur to what I posted. Thanks for understanding.

Oh and here is President Obama advocating for the secure fence act:

 

[americanwoman]

Sorry but I don't want to derail the thread by moving to all this that is all non sequitur to what I posted. Thanks for understanding.

Oh and here is President Obama advocating for the secure fence act:

Actually you said he wanted a wall not a fence.

Care to show a video of Obama advocating for a wall?

 

[jonny5]

[h=1]House Republicans again block passage of disaster aid bill[/h]

House Republicans again block passage of disaster aid bill - CNNPolitics

Washington (CNN)For the second time in a week, House Republicans blocked the passage of a more than $19 billion disaster relief bill, further delaying the approval of funds that cleared the Senate last week with overwhelming bipartisan support.

House Democrats attempted to pass the bill via unanimous consent on Tuesday, but Republican Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky objected. Republican Rep. Alex Mooney of West Virginia was on the House floor standing next to Massie for the objection. It only takes one person to object in order to block a bill from passing immediately through unanimous consent.

With Congress in recess, House Democrats will have another chance at a second pro forma this coming Thursday, and then again next week when the House returns on Monday.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer was also in the chamber Tuesday to call on Republicans not to object.
"I urge them to do so because millions of people ... are at risk," he said.

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It only takes one Republican to block this disaster relief bill, this is the second time one has blocked it passing. Trump has already said he would sign the bill when it comes to his desk, even if it didn't contain the border funding. There's not $3 billion for his wall in the disaster bill, so the GOP refuses to pass it.

Nancy Pelosi was right when she said "the heartlessness of House Republicans knows no bounds". North Dakota Republican Sen. Kevin Cramer was quite succinct when he said ""A lot gets made of the fact that one person did this. The one person that did it obviously represents several others who would have done it if not for them,"

All they have to do to pass it is to show up and vote. Instead, the entire congress went home for 10 days.

 

[jonny5]

[h=1]House Republicans again block passage of disaster aid bill[/h]

House Republicans again block passage of disaster aid bill - CNNPolitics

Washington (CNN)For the second time in a week, House Republicans blocked the passage of a more than $19 billion disaster relief bill, further delaying the approval of funds that cleared the Senate last week with overwhelming bipartisan support.

House Democrats attempted to pass the bill via unanimous consent on Tuesday, but Republican Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky objected. Republican Rep. Alex Mooney of West Virginia was on the House floor standing next to Massie for the objection. It only takes one person to object in order to block a bill from passing immediately through unanimous consent.

With Congress in recess, House Democrats will have another chance at a second pro forma this coming Thursday, and then again next week when the House returns on Monday.

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer was also in the chamber Tuesday to call on Republicans not to object.
"I urge them to do so because millions of people ... are at risk," he said.

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It only takes one Republican to block this disaster relief bill, this is the second time one has blocked it passing. Trump has already said he would sign the bill when it comes to his desk, even if it didn't contain the border funding. There's not $3 billion for his wall in the disaster bill, so the GOP refuses to pass it.

Nancy Pelosi was right when she said "the heartlessness of House Republicans knows no bounds". North Dakota Republican Sen. Kevin Cramer was quite succinct when he said ""A lot gets made of the fact that one person did this. The one person that did it obviously represents several others who would have done it if not for them,"

Also, this extends the NFIP, which has serious problems.

U.S. GAO - High Risk: National Flood Insurance Program

Congress should consider comprehensive reform of the National Flood Insurance Program (NFIP) to improve the program’s solvency and enhance the nation’s resilience to floods. The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) should also take steps to complete the implementation of improvements to its rate-setting methods and compensation of insurance companies, among other actions.

 

[Anthony60]

If you read the story... the congressman is objecting to passing the bill via unanimous consent, stating that it's too big and too important to pass without any discussion or recorded vote in the house.

These are not people that can easily make that distinction. Obviously, CNN knows that all they need do is put up a headline about "Republicans block disaster relief" and the useful idiots will take it from there.

 

[OrphanSlug]

I am having the hardest time finding the last version of the bill that caused all these actions ending up in the news.

But I think it is this one...

Text - H.R.2157 - 116th Congress (2019-2020): Additional Supplemental Appropriations for Disaster Relief Act, 2019 | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

 

[j-mac]

I don't know if you are simply unaware, simply using the Secure Fence Act of 2006 to equate to "all," or simply a partisan liar.....

For the life of me, I don't know what you, or any rational person think you are accomplishing when you start out a post like this...

Do you really expect to have any sort of reasoned conversation surrounding any topic when you begin by calling the person you are addressing, "a liar"?

It's toxic...You should check yourself.

 

[j-mac]

I don't think the Republicans realize how incredibly ignorant and heartless they look. Trump, to his credit, has vowed to sign it.

Absurd.

"The Republicans" ????? All Republicans? Did you even read the article Tres? I guess not.

 

[cabse5]

For the life of me, I don't know what you, or any rational person think you are accomplishing when you start out a post like this...

Do you really expect to have any sort of reasoned conversation surrounding any topic when you begin by calling the person you are addressing, "a liar"?

It's toxic...You should check yourself.

Now you know how dems have amassed such a long list of Trump lies, for example. Some Trump 'lies' are outright incorrect accusations. Some Trump 'lies' are 'circumstantial'. All Trump 'lies' are political accusations.

 

[Praxas]

Now you know how dems have amassed such a long list of Trump lies, for example. Some Trump 'lies' are outright incorrect accusations. Some Trump 'lies' are 'circumstantial'. All Trump 'lies' are political accusations.

Feel free to list those that are circumstantial or incorrect accusations. I bet you even believe Trump when he says he is the most transparent President in history. :lamo

 

[Perotista]

Address the topic of the thread, stop deflecting.

Albq is correct. It's all a matter of record.

 

[Perotista]

So how many times do Democrats refuse to vote for an otherwise good bill because it doesn't include a provision they want? I can assure you it is every bit as often if not more often than happens on the Republican side.

So who is more heartless? Democrats who refuse to allow President one thin dime for a wall THEY all wanted before President Trump was elected and would hold a disaster relief bill hostage because of it? Or Republicans who are committed to national security as much as they are committed to providing disaster relief?

So the bill goes for a vote and all have to go on the record instead of passing it on a voice vote. (Voice votes that involved anything that affects the people in any way, i.e. imposes a law, mandate, regulation, or costs money, should be outlawed anyway.)

I firm agree with you on this last sentence, "Voice votes that involved anything that affects the people in any way, i.e. imposes a law, mandate, regulation, or costs money, should be outlawed anyway."

The rest is a matter of historical House and senate records.