House passes sweeping anti-discrimination bill to expand protections of LGBT people

[dixon01767]

more meaningless (inaccurate) feelings
who is they?

They who passed and those who support this bill.

 

[AGENT J]

They who passed and those who support this bill.

so the majority of people according to claims here

so sex was never included or tried in anything like this or talk about before now? its JUST because of transgender . . .which by the way isnt "sex"?

 

[AGENT J]

At least Deuce was bright enough to ask a question, receive the answer and then tuck and run.. You.. Not so much.. LOL


Tim-

Another attack but yet no facts that support your claims, oooops

please let us know the part of the bill that factually:

Threatens women's sports
Threatens Women's shelters
Threaten womans Schools
Silences female athletes
Silences domestic abuse survivors
Gives men the right to enter any women's only or girl's only facility at will
Gives men the right if they are a girls junior high school basketball coach to enter the girls locker room, watch 11 and 12 year old girls shower and the school not only couldn't fire him and would be absolutely helpless to stop him from doing this
Gives men the right to compete in women's sport
Exploits and endangers women
weaponizes gender identity



thanks!

anything yet? We are waiting. Please let us know, thanks!

 

[Rickeroo]

Equality Act 2019: House passes sweeping anti-discrimination bill to expand protections of LGBT people - CBS News

backup links:
Houses passes Equality Act to increase protections for sexual orientation and gender identity - CNNPolitics
Equality Act: House OKs Pelosi priority bill to expand gay rights
House Equality Act Extends Civil Rights Protections to Gay and Transgender People - The New York Times


Its a shame that things are so partisan that this will be shot down in the senate or by Trump himself but at least its being tried and rightfully so. Good Job!!!
Regardless full and equal civil rights protections for LGBT will happen in my life time and its an awesome thing equality is winning and bigotry is dying.

what is the equality act?
Equality Act (United States) - Wikipedia

I'll buy into this as soon as racial identity becomes protected.

 

[AGENT J]

I'll buy into this as soon as racial identity becomes protected.

well if you are around my age the reality is its going to happen in our lifetime so you dont really need to buy into it and race is already protected

 

[Cougarbear]

Not in all states, only in those that recognize sexual orientation as a protected class.

Here in WA St., where that is a protected class, a high school teacher/coach was fired from a private Catholic school for being gay.

Court greenlights fired gay teacher's lawsuit against Catholic school | National Catholic Reporter

I cant find at this point if it was upheld or not. It was on the news alot and I think the teacher may have dropped it.

Here's a more recent case that bears watching:

This Catholic school was right to fire a gay teacher who got married

Good!!! Like I said, the law cannot supercede the Constitution. The Catholic school is protected as it is a part of the Diocese of the Catholic Church. Whether you think it is right to fire him has no bearing on the case. You don't have the right to go over the heads of the Constitution. Period! But, the Democrat Party now has turned into a terrorist organization committing treason against the Constitution. I think Trump should designate the Democrat Party as a terrorist group that it is and lock all of them up!

 

[Rickeroo]

well if you are around my age the reality is its going to happen in our lifetime so you dont really need to buy into it and race is already protected

Not race, racial identity. We should have the freedom to live the racial identity we wish, and get all the benefits from that race. Bruce Jenner benefits from womanhood, and so it should be for transracials.

 

[ElChupacabra]

I guess I am as liberal as they come, but I cannot get behind this bill as is.

It is almost as if they designed a bill to make a political point knowing full well it is probably dead on arrival in the Senate, let alone making it past the President’s desk.

Don’t get me wrong, there are aspects of the bill that make sense in terms of job protections and so forth along the lines of the Civil Rights act it attempts to amend. But Democrats may have taken it too far and that discounts the very group they claim they are trying to protect.

The whole thing may just end up a campaign stunt, and that further does a disservice to the LGBT community.

Yeah, this is going to get interesting. It warrants an open conversation of what this all means, but I doubt that's going to happen in the Zero Sum Game era. There is something to be said about women's sports (and other areas) where biological advantages can stifle the progress women have made.

 

[AGENT J]

Not race, racial identity. We should have the freedom to live the racial identity we wish, and get all the benefits from that race. Bruce Jenner benefits from womanhood, and so it should be for transracials.

What due tell is the factual medical definition of a transracial?

opcorn2:

 

[Rickeroo]

What due tell is the factual medical definition of a transracial?

opcorn2:

People should be free to choose their own race. Certain social benefits are afforded depending on the race one chooses. I want to be smart at math so I want to identify as Asian. Others may want to identify as black so they don't have to rise to the expectations of white people. A white person may want to identify as another race to avoid the ire of the democrats.

I realize that race is considered concrete and genetic. If this is the case, and we can't choose our race, then we need some form of official racial determination so people don't commit the crime of misrepresenting their race. For example, if I want to avoid blame by the democrats and say I'm longer white, the democrats should have some kind of recourse - they could demand a genetic or morphological test of me, say at an official governmental Race Center. There, the true level of my whiteness would be determined.

I could also say I'm black on a college application. I could show up with various features that may appear outwardly black, like Rachael Dolezal. Since race is so vital to as to which Americans deserve which treatment, we need racial ID cards or some other proof of our exact racial makeup. Only in this manner will true racial justice be served.

 

[dixon01767]

so the majority of people according to claims here

so sex was never included or tried in anything like this or talk about before now? its JUST because of transgender . . .which by the way isnt "sex"?

Some states have enacted their own laws. I WAS REFERRING to the FEDERAL law that is the topic of discussion. The federal public accomodation laws dont include sex as one of the favorite classifications of people.

SEC. 201. (a) All persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, and privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin.

 

[dixon01767]

Yeah, this is going to get interesting. It warrants an open conversation of what this all means, but I doubt that's going to happen in the Zero Sum Game era. There is something to be said about women's sports (and other areas) where biological advantages can stifle the progress women have made.

Yeah. Bruce Jenner was only a woman for about 6 months and was able to beat every woman in the world to receive the woman of the year award in half the time it would of taken a woman. The women wouldnt stand a chance.

 

[AGENT J]

People should be free to choose their own race. Certain social benefits are afforded depending on the race one chooses. I want to be smart at math so I want to identify as Asian. Others may want to identify as black so they don't have to rise to the expectations of white people. A white person may want to identify as another race to avoid the ire of the democrats.

I realize that race is considered concrete and genetic. If this is the case, and we can't choose our race, then we need some form of official racial determination so people don't commit the crime of misrepresenting their race. For example, if I want to avoid blame by the democrats and say I'm longer white, the democrats should have some kind of recourse - they could demand a genetic or morphological test of me, say at an official governmental Race Center. There, the true level of my whiteness would be determined.

I could also say I'm black on a college application. I could show up with various features that may appear outwardly black, like Rachael Dolezal. Since race is so vital to as to which Americans deserve which treatment, we need racial ID cards or some other proof of our exact racial makeup. Only in this manner will true racial justice be served.

Ill ask you again since you didnt answer my question in any of that nonsense you posted

What due tell is the factual medical definition of a transracial? thanks!

 

[AGENT J]

Some states have enacted their own laws. I WAS REFERRING to the FEDERAL law that is the topic of discussion. The federal public accomodation laws dont include sex as one of the favorite classifications of people.

SEC. 201. (a) All persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, and privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin.

Ill ask you AGAIN, so sex was never included or tried in anything like this or talk about before now? its JUST because of transgender . . .which by the way isnt "sex"?

 

[Rickeroo]

Ill ask you again since you didnt answer my question in any of that nonsense you posted

What due tell is the factual medical definition of a transracial? thanks!

There is no definition medically. Does this mean that I can not identify as something other than my perceived race? Who has the final authority to determine who is black and who is white? Certainly that type of important distinction should be left to extensive government testing. Is race a social construct, or does it have a genetic bearing on a person's physical and mental makeup?

 

[AGENT J]

There is no definition medically.

oh ok so you made it up and its factually meaningless to the topic . . got it, thanks for playing! lol

 

[American]

Equality Act 2019: House passes sweeping anti-discrimination bill to expand protections of LGBT people - CBS News

backup links:
Houses passes Equality Act to increase protections for sexual orientation and gender identity - CNNPolitics
Equality Act: House OKs Pelosi priority bill to expand gay rights
House Equality Act Extends Civil Rights Protections to Gay and Transgender People - The New York Times


Its a shame that things are so partisan that this will be shot down in the senate or by Trump himself but at least its being tried and rightfully so. Good Job!!!
Regardless full and equal civil rights protections for LGBT will happen in my life time and its an awesome thing equality is winning and bigotry is dying.

what is the equality act?
Equality Act (United States) - Wikipedia

WTF do they need protections for, the practically run all the restrooms now.

 

[dixon01767]

Ill ask you AGAIN, so sex was never included or tried in anything like this or talk about before now?

and I'll answer again

Some states have enacted their own laws. I WAS REFERRING to the FEDERAL law that is the topic of discussion.

FEDERAL Public Accomodation Laws have never included prohibitions against discrimination on the basis of sex. And never presented a problem. But now

(a) Findings.—Congress finds the following:
(1) Discrimination can occur on the basis of the sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, or pregnancy, childbirth, or a related medical condition of an individual, as well as because of sex-based stereotypes. Each of these factors alone can serve as the basis for discrimination, and each is a form of sex discrimination.

all of a sudden we need to stamp out sex discrimination in public accomodations, when in fact, as the title of the thread indicates, the only concern is the LGBTers.

 

[dixon01767]

oh ok so you made it up and its factually meaningless to the topic . . got it, thanks for playing! lol

There is no medical or legal definition of "Gender Identity" so not sure of your point.

 

[AGENT J]

WTF do they need protections for, the practically run all the restrooms now.

Your outrage and opinions are not representative of reality or the issues. If its nice where you are at, have a drink, sit outside for while.

 

[AGENT J]

and I'll answer again


FEDERAL Public Accomodation Laws have never included prohibitions against discrimination on the basis of sex. And never presented a problem. But now

(a) Findings.—Congress finds the following:
(1) Discrimination can occur on the basis of the sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, or pregnancy, childbirth, or a related medical condition of an individual, as well as because of sex-based stereotypes. Each of these factors alone can serve as the basis for discrimination, and each is a form of sex discrimination.

all of a sudden we need to stamp out sex discrimination in public accomodations, when in fact, as the title of the thread indicates, the only concern is the LGBTers.

nothing you posted answers my question . . NOTHING
Didnt ask you what the fed law is right now, i know it.


so ill ask you AGAIN and you will dodge and run again much to our entertainment
so sex was never included or tried in anything like this or talk about before now?

 

[AGENT J]

There is no medical or legal definition of "Gender Identity" so not sure of your point.

I didnt say there was a medical or legal definition of "Gender Identity" so your confusion is of your own making and has nothing to do with the facts i posted. Let me know if theres any other factual mistakes of yours i can help you with.

 

[Erod]

Goodbye girls sports.

 

[dixon01767]

nothing you posted answers my question . . NOTHING

Asked

Ill ask you AGAIN, so sex was never included or tried in anything like this or talk about before now?

And answered

Some states have enacted their own laws [ that "included" sex, so we can presume before they "tried" "anything like this" there was "talk about before now"]. I WAS REFERRING to the FEDERAL law that is the topic of discussion. .

 

[AGENT J]

Asked

And answered

SWEET ANOTHER DODGE!!!!

and again NOTHING you posted answers my question LMAO
i didnt ask about what states did, didnt ask you what current fed law was .. all those strawmen completely fail

Ill ask you AGAIN, so sex was never included or tried in anything like this or talk about before now?