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Happy Earth Day from Michael Moore!

PoS said:
Moore really hated W and he won a prize at Cannes for it. I'm surprised he actually is against climate alarmism since as you have correctly stated it is a major lefty belief.
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I have just watched nearly all of the climate doc he produced (though someone else is credited in the titles). It is aimed at the twin evils of over population and over consumption. AGM is not denied; the main point is that so-called 'green energy is a delusion. The great Satan is biomass energy which is rightly portrayed as a major destroyer of forests.

Too long, a bit slow. But a plus is the absence of MM from the screen
 
Moonglow said:
I see the point alludes you to the push by both Republican, Democrats and others to care about the environment when you feel the need to destroy any and all for your idea of civilization.
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Not destroy, save and improve.

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PoS said:
Moore really hated W and he won a prize at Cannes for it. I'm surprised he actually is against climate alarmism since as you have correctly stated it is a major lefty belief.
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I don't get it either.
 
Sweden said:
I have just watched nearly all of the climate doc he produced (though someone else is credited in the titles). It is aimed at the twin evils of over population and over consumption. AGM is not denied; the main point is that so-called 'green energy is a delusion. The great Satan is biomass energy which is rightly portrayed as a major destroyer of forests.

Too long, a bit slow. But a plus is the absence of MM from the screen
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Well the causes and effects of climate change are two separate issues. You'll find that most skeptics actually agree there has been some warming, but disagree as to the causes of it. There's also major disagreements as to what the consequences are and how to solve the issue, if its even a problem. It's not all black and white as what the alarmists claim it is.
 
Moonglow said:
You are aware that the Energy Policy Act of 2005 contained the mandates for renewable energy and biodiversity fuels to be developed by the US and was written and passed by a Republican led Congress and presidency?
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No I wasn't. I pulled up the bill, and didn't find such mandates. What section has the mandates?
 
jotathought said:
The Energy Policy Act of 2005 has many provisions, and its primary goal was to incentivize the development of innovative technologies to minimize green house gas emissions and combat energy problems in the United States.
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Yep.

I see all kinds of incentives, but I didn't find any mandates. No wonder the democrats mostly voted no for it. It wasn't authoritarian or socialist enough for them.
 
Moonglow said:
And that energy policy spurred govt. investment in alternative green energy.
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Are you spinning?

Again. Section please. Maybe you can quote the relevant part of Public Law 109-58 for us please?
 
PoS said:
Well the causes and effects of climate change are two separate issues. You'll find that most skeptics actually agree there has been some warming, but disagree as to the causes of it. There's also major disagreements as to what the consequences are and how to solve the issue, if its even a problem. It's not all black and white as what the alarmists claim it is.
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Yep. Not black and white at all. Any of the alarmists who say the science is settled, are to be laughed at and not listened to.
 
Moonglow said:
They have yet to save or stop destroying. They made the same arguments about horses and whale oil.
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Well, no. Neither horses nor whale oil was the foundation for the greatest advance in human well being and prosperity in history. Fossil fuels are.
 
Moonglow said:
Still driving yer horse and buggy?
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You didn't watch the video then...…., OBVIOUSLY!

Suggest you stop making a fool of yourself making comments like this, when the Video isn't what you think it is.

Cheers.
 
Moonglow said:
They have yet to save or stop destroying. They made the same arguments about horses and whale oil.
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Bwahahahahahahaha!!!

More evidence that you didn't watch the video, they make abundant, the case that the biggest destroyers of all ARE the people pushing "green" power. Biomass is mostly cutting down huge tracts of forests to burn for power generation. This has been making news and YOU still don't know this?

Come on Moonglow, go watch it.
 
Moonglow said:
Do companies always respond with federal funds only?
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I wouldn't say companies always respond to federal funding and/or tax incentives, but if the purpose of an organization is to maximize its profits and incentives in the form of reduced costs can help differentiate it from its competitors, why wouldn't a company want to leverage it?
 
Sunsettommy said:
Bwahahahahahahaha!!!

More evidence that you didn't watch the video, they make abundant, the case that the biggest destroyers of all ARE the people pushing "green" power. Biomass is mostly cutting down huge tracts of forests to burn for power generation. This has been making news and YOU still don't know this?

Come on Moonglow, go watch it.
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You mean that US businesses never cut down trees to make money?
 
jotathought said:
I wouldn't say companies always respond to federal funding and/or tax incentives, but if the purpose of an organization is to maximize its profits and incentives in the form of reduced costs can help differentiate it from its competitors, why wouldn't a company want to leverage it?
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I have no idea since capitalism never relies or exists off of other people's money.
 
Moonglow said:
You mean that US businesses never cut down trees to make money?
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You are determined to remain ignorant on WHO are the main destroyers of forests, it ain't the Oil companies, it is mostly the people pushing "green" power.

The video shows who they are doing most of the destruction in the name of "renewable" power, they are right there on land sites, showing the destruction of SQUARE MILES of forests to feed their Biomass needs.

Your blindness is making you appear determined to stay ignorant, despite that it is mostly the wealthy leftists who are making the big bucks, using renewables ideology as illusions being foisted on a conned public.
 
This is one documentary Mr. Moore Executive Produced, that deserved a MEDAL for excellence in showing how "Green Power" is an illusion, that it actually INCREASES CO2 emissions, increases the rate of destruction of the environment in building green power, Increases the rate of toxic materials used in … "green power" based renewables materials, while NOT solving a single environmental complaint made by the same greentards who push them as solutions in the first place!

Green power
Renewable power
Save the planet, by keeping fossil fuels in the ground
Rape the environment for green, Renewable power generation

It is all illusory in that it doesn't solve anything, just increases environmental damage. It is a SCAM!

It is all a giant circle of ecoloony baloney!
 
Moonglow said:
I have no idea since capitalism never relies or exists off of other people's money.
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Sure it does. Ever heard of a venture capitalist whose primary role is to provide capital for startup business or expansion of existing businesses? They pool investment funds to find and invest in organizations which have potential to provide high rates of return.
 
PoS said:
Well the causes and effects of climate change are two separate issues. You'll find that most skeptics actually agree there has been some warming, but disagree as to the causes of it. There's also major disagreements as to what the consequences are and how to solve the issue, if its even a problem. It's not all black and white as what the alarmists claim it is.
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Agreed. But over population and the over consumption - including that of energy - that is its inevitable consequence is, I think, only black.
 
Sweden said:
Agreed. But over population and the over consumption - including that of energy - that is its inevitable consequence is, I think, only black.
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The phrase "over consumption" is only used by those who already enjoy a developed 21st century lifestyle.
 
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[h=1]The End of Big Green? The Guardian Praises Michael Moore’s Anti Renewables Flick “Planet of the Humans”[/h][FONT=&quot]Guest essay by Eric Worrall The Guardian even mentions nuclear energy in a vaguely positive light (unlike the Moore film). Planet of the Humans review – contrarian eco-doc from the Michael Moore stable 4 out of 5 stars. Peter Bradshaw @PeterBradshaw1 Wed 22 Apr 2020 18.32 AESTLast modified on Wed 22 Apr 2020 19.32 AEST Jeff Gibbs’ film,…
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[h=2]German Review Of Moore Film: “About Selling Out Green Ideas”…Sustainability – In The Cayman Islands”[/h]By P Gosselin on 24. April 2020
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[h=2]“Whenever I came across green energy, it wasn’t green energy”[/h]By Die kalte Sonne
(Text translated by P. Gosselin)
American documentary filmmaker Michael Moore presents on YouTube a film that critically examines renewable energies in the USA. All the more astonishing is his relentless portrayal of the situation in the USA regarding these energies.
The Oscar winner presents a work directed by Jeff Gibbs “Planet Of The Humans“.
Greens tangled in contradiction
Similarly ruthless as other Moore films, it is enlightened, even exaggerated, but first and foremost proponents and critics of renewable energies speak out. Especially supporters contradicted each other, sometimes rather unwittingly as the intention of the documentary film was not clear to them. But nobody was ambushed, the questions were always asked fairly. What is striking is the speechlessness of some when it came to unpleasant issues or the financing of certain movements.
The film is about the sell out green ideas, and this happens in the USA in a variety of ways. To be clear, the film criticizes any kind of pollution, and it starts by digging out a 1958 film that warns of global warming caused by CO2: “The Unchained Goddess”.
Director Gibbs also makes his position very clear at the beginning. In Germany he is what you would probably call an environmental fundamentalist, with a self-built wooden house in the wilderness, solar panel on the roof and self-chopped wood as fuel in the wood stove. His first documentaries also deal with the mistreatment of nature. . . .
 
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