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Global Warming is Worse than we Thought

longview said:
It only matters that the referenced paper did not originate from WHWT.
The Harvard search results shows that the paper is published.
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It matters that you don't have a clue about what a 'reference' is or how to search the literature yet you 'know' all the scientists are wrong.

No-one tried to dispute that Jack's copied and pasted blog post from WUWT pseudoscience conspiracy blog cited a published paper in the first place. Just that's WUWT is a worthless source because it's general modis operandi is to misrepresent the papers it cites.
 
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Lord of Planar said:
You just love putting inserting your foot in your mouth.

It does give the abstract of them paper. It also gives this link for the paper:

https://doi.org/10.3389/feart.2017.00104

Proof, once again, that you don't have a flying F.... of what you speak of.
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longview claimed that Harvard University 'referenced' a paper. He didn't even realise that it was just a search engine result.

'Words have meaning' LOP. How about you try reading before you leap in half-cocked with false claims and unwarranted insults?
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Well then that seals the deal, stop with this idiocy of trying to stop change and start getting ready to deal with what is coming.

The problem of course is that we are too dim now.
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LOL Right....the thing to do when you are stuck in a hole is keep digging.
 
iguanaman said:
LOL Right....the thing to do when you are stuck in a hole is keep digging.
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We neither understand what is going on with the climate nor have much ability to change it, it will take a global government if the doomsdayers are right and we are not going to do that till calamity gets here, so the proper place to put money and effort is in getting more resilient...more flexible....more able to handle change if it comes.
 
Quaestio said:
It matters that you don't have a clue about what a 'reference' is or how to search the literature yet you 'know' all the scientists are wrong.

No-one tried to dispute that Jack's copied and pasted blog post from WUWT pseudoscience conspiracy blog cited a published paper in the first place. Just that's WUWT is a worthless source because it's general modis operandi is to misrepresent the papers it cites.
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Another in a continuing series of prejudice-driven falsehoods.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
We neither understand what is going on with the climate nor have much ability to change it, it will take a global government if the doomsdayers are right and we are not going to do that till calamity gets here, so the proper place to put money and effort is in getting more resilient...more flexible....more able to handle change if it comes.
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Wrong. Reducing CO2 emissions now will reduce the impact of human caused warming. Burning every ounce of fossilized carbon will make it much much worse. Putting money in alternative energy now is the only right thing to do. You do know it will be needed eventually so why not now? Like I said the 1st thing we need to do is stop digging this hole. It will end up being our grave if we don't.
 
iguanaman said:
Wrong. Reducing CO2 emissions now will reduce the impact of human caused warming. Burning every ounce of fossilized carbon will make it much much worse. Putting money in alternative energy now is the only right thing to do. You do know it will be needed eventually so why not now? Like I said the 1st thing we need to do is stop digging this hole. It will end up being our grave if we don't.
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Alternatives are the energy of tomorrow, and always will be.
 
iguanaman said:
Wrong. Reducing CO2 emissions now will reduce the impact of human caused warming. Burning every ounce of fossilized carbon will make it much much worse. Putting money in alternative energy now is the only right thing to do. You do know it will be needed eventually so why not now? Like I said the 1st thing we need to do is stop digging this hole. It will end up being our grave if we don't.
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Jordan Peterson says that the science is very sketchy, which I say would be par for the course, so I am waiting to agree to any such claims that reducing Co2 production is the place to put our money. For one thing I am not going to sign on to a quality of life degrade because some people say that I must. THis society has become astoundingly corrupt and abusive, and science was not good enough to resist the infection of corruption.

I for one thing demand a best that we can manage cost/benefit analysis of reducing Co2 and neutralizing it....and if we have the means which is iffy removing Co2.

I am not going to make a major move like this based upon the fad of the day, and not only because it is cripplingly expensive in both cost and quality of life.
 
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Hawkeye10 said:
Jordan Peterson says that the science is very sketchy, which I say would be par for the course, so I am waiting to agree to any such claims that reducing Co2 production is the place to put our money. For one thing I am not going to sign on to a quality of life degrade because some people say that I must. THis society has become astoundingly corrupt and abusive, and science was not good enough to resist the infection of corruption.

I for one thing demand a best that we can manage cost/benefit analysis of reducing Co2 and neutralizing it....and if we have the means which is iffy removing Co2.

I am not going to make a major move like this based upon the fad of the day, and not only because it is cripplingly expensive in both cost and quality of life.
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Typical tightwad Conservative...."I don't want to pay a dime to save the Earth". It's either pay now or pay later and later it is going to be just to survive.
 
Jack Hays said:
Alternatives are the energy of tomorrow, and always will be.
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You sound exactly like the fossil fuel producers. Now is the time for alternative energy, tomorrow it will be too late.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Maybe you should open the link Longview provided, and the one I provided, and see if the words of the abstracts match between the two.

I suggest you go as slow as needed to comprehend.
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Whoosh! Your reading comprehension of posts is really poor. longview claimed that Harvard 'Referenced' the same paper as WUWT. It WASN'T a 'reference'. It was a search result from Harvard's proprietary search engine. I even provided a link to the page where search parameters are entered. I realize you have no experience doing literature searches so perhaps, like longview, you didn't recognize what it was yourself.
 
Jack Hays said:
Another in a continuing series of prejudice-driven falsehoods.
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Let me guess, you think longview's link to Harvard's search engine was a "Reference" by Harvard too? :lmao. I would have thought you would know better.
 
Quaestio said:
Whoosh! Your reading comprehension of posts is really poor. longview claimed that Harvard 'Referenced' the same paper as WUWT. It WASN'T a 'reference'. It was a search result from Harvard's proprietary search engine. I even provided a link to the page where search parameters are entered. I realize you have no experience doing literature searches so perhaps, like longview, you didn't recognize what it was yourself.
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Quaestio said:
Let me guess, you think longview's link to Harvard's search engine was a "Reference" by Harvard too? :lmao. I would have thought you would know better.
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These posts are breathtakingly petty. "Reference" is a perfectly good usage in this forum, and your Sheldon Cooper-like objection makes you ridiculous.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Jordan Peterson says that the science is very sketchy, which I say would be par for the course, so I am waiting to agree to any such claims that reducing Co2 production is the place to put our money. For one thing I am not going to sign on to a quality of life degrade because some people say that I must. THis society has become astoundingly corrupt and abusive, and science was not good enough to resist the infection of corruption.

I for one thing demand a best that we can manage cost/benefit analysis of reducing Co2 and neutralizing it....and if we have the means which is iffy removing Co2.

I am not going to make a major move like this based upon the fad of the day, and not only because it is cripplingly expensive in both cost and quality of life.
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Jordan Peterson? Seriously? He's a Professor of Psychology (who also pretends he's an 'expert' in Philosophy but isn't. He's also referred to as the stupid person's idea of a smart person)

Are you saying he's an expert now in all the fields involved in climate science? Since when?
 
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calamity said:
Worse than we thought is actually an understatement.

Startling new research finds large buildup of heat in the oceans, suggesting a faster rate of global warming






The study
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This issue has been made so political, and has been manipulated so much to those ends, that it's too tedious to separate the wheat from the chaff.

I think fewer people are interested in it now than when it started. It has the same level of legitimacy of chicks crying rape anymore. Congrats.
 
Jack Hays said:
These posts are breathtakingly petty. "Reference" is a perfectly good usage in this forum, and your Sheldon Cooper-like objection makes you ridiculous.
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No. It's not a "perfectly good usage" in this sense. It's a simple mistake from someone who clearly doesn't understand what the word "Reference" means or what a literature search is. When that same person is claiming that he 'knows' all the scientists are 'wrong', it makes him look even more ridiculous.
 
Quaestio said:
No. It's not a "perfectly good usage" in this sense. It's a simple mistake from someone who clearly doesn't understand what the word "Reference" means or what a literature search is. When that same person is claiming that he 'knows' all the scientists are 'wrong', it makes him ridiculous.
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Whatever you say Sheldon.:lamo
 
Jack Hays said:
Whatever you say Sheldon.:lamo
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So you have nothing? Isn't it about time you posted yet another of your thousands and thousands of copy and pasted conspiracy blog posts? Do you get withdrawal symptoms if you leave it too long?
 
Quaestio said:
So you have nothing? Isn't it about time you posted yet another of your thousands and thousands of copy and pasted conspiracy blog posts? Do you get withdrawal symptoms if you leave it too long?
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I need nothing, Sheldon. Keep up the good work.:lol:
 
Quaestio said:
Jordan Peterson? Seriously? He's a Professor of Psychology (who also pretends he's an 'expert' in Philosophy but isn't. He's also referred to as the stupid person's idea of a smart person)

Are you saying he's an expert now in all the fields involved in climate science? Since when?
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More expert and able to correctly evaluate the state of the science than me.

Plus I trust him completely, he is so often right.

He is also a fellow Truth Teller.

A GOOD JOE
 
Hawkeye10 said:
More expert and able to correctly evaluate the state of the science than me.

Plus I trust him completely, he is so often right.

He is also a fellow Truth Teller.

A GOOD JOE
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LOL! He has zero expertise in any of the fields involved in climate science and only a fool pretends expertise outside their own field. But like I said, he's the stupid person's idea of a smart person.
 
Quaestio said:
LOL! He has zero expertise in any of the fields involved in climate science and only a fool pretends expertise outside their own field. But like I said, he's the stupid person's idea of a smart person.
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You get known by the quality of the calls you make in life.

So Long.
 
Threegoofs said:
Explains a lot, don’t it?
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As Jordan Peterson points out there is a ongoing attack on competence in the West now.

The New Chinese Empire appreciates our stupidity.

Their work is a lot easier than it should be.

WE SCREWED UP!
 
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