Ft Myers rally

[Bodi]

The North attacked the south first, so technically they declared war. And yeah, the north slaughtered americans to maintain tyranny (preserve the union). The south did not engage in islamic like terrorism though and they certainly didnt want to kill everyone.

Fort Sumter... Confederates attacked first and started the war.

I cant remember ever reading posts defending the South here and indicating that the slave holders that started a civil war were good guys that were innocent before. :lol:

 

[trixare4kids]

Scrub-a-dub-dub....we gotta be squeaky clean to get into UTOPIA.

Minds all rightly ordered, with the right ideas, nobody talking disturbingly hurting the victims with their abusive language...












I take a pass.

Oh, so you're not interested in living in Pleasantville either?
Tell us more.

 

[Bodi]

That would be Lincoln (excluding world wars). He initiated a war which resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of americans. The south would not have fought a war if the north would have left them alone.

This post reminds me of a Muslim student fro Pakistan that I taught who started screaming at me that Gandhi was a terrorist.

 

[Bodi]

The leftists remind me of the Taliban, ISIS and a bit of Nazi Brownshirts. What next? Book-burnings??

Looking for shock value?

I bet most just :roll: instead...

 

[ecofarm]

This post reminds me of a Muslim student fro Pakistan that I taught who started screaming at me that Gandhi was a terrorist.

"Lincoln as the Great Terrorist" doesn't leave much to the imagination. But just for fun... I'm seeing a barn on a few acres. A meeting of men and boys dressed in camo. Maybe a Israeli flag as a mat at the entrance.

 

[Bodi]

"Lincoln as the Great Terrorist" doesn't leave much to the imagination. But just for fun... I'm seeing a barn on a few acres. A meeting of men and boys dressed in camo. Maybe a Israeli flag as a mat at the entrance.

Then they rush off to make moonshine... but that did bring us Nascar... unfortunately.

 

[trixare4kids]

It is LEE COUNTY *guess who they named it after*?
History has shown us what happens when history is erased/ignored.

This episode of the history erasers in my back yard has motivated me to research my geneolgy and reach out to join the SCV, a chapter is right here in my humble city.

Recoil effect. All the Male members in my family can join.

The next thing the perpetually aggrieved will want to do is to change the name of LEE county.
Mark my words...

 

[ecofarm]

Then they rush off to make moonshine... but that did bring us Nascar... unfortunately.

These days one needn't head down the gully to the stream past the pits of doom and meet with Ol' Eight Fingers to learn how to make liquor. We have google. And cars going round and round in an endurance race? Be serious.

 

[trixare4kids]

The leftists remind me of the Taliban, ISIS and a bit of Nazi Brownshirts. What next? Book-burnings??

If these illiberals had their way they would burn books.
They haven't realized yet that there is no way all their virtue signalling will do a damn thing to sanitize HISTORY.

 

[Bodi]

These days one needn't head down the gully to the stream past the pits of doom and meet with Ol' Eight Fingers to learn how to make liquor. We have google. And cars going round and round in an endurance race? Be serious.

One of those channels has a show about modern day moonshiners... all hicks hiding their batches under bridges and doing dead drops...

 

[OlNate]

I am a southerner, if you think I should scorn my ancestors...I have some advice for you, but I cant post it here.

Bob...help me understand something. Would you consider yourself American first, southerner second, or southerner first, American second?

 

[ecofarm]

One of those channels has a show about modern day moonshiners... all hicks hiding their batches under bridges and doing dead drops...

I confess to watching for a moment in passing. It's like 'gorillas in the mist'.

 

[ecofarm]

If these illiberals had their way they would burn books.
They haven't realized yet that there is no way all their virtue signalling will do a damn thing to sanitize HISTORY.

That's partisan hack lunatic fantasy. Monuments do not constitute literature or history and they are not being destroyed but moved to appropriate locations.

Why do you feel participation trophies for anti American terrorists erected as intimidation of the population merit town square? What about them is so important.

 

[Bodi]

I confess to watching for a moment in passing. It's like 'gorillas in the mist'.

I did too... once I saw hill billy steve doing the dead drop under a rural bridge trying to figure out how to secure it i had to change the channel.

 

[OlNate]

If these illiberals had their way they would burn books.
They haven't realized yet that there is no way all their virtue signalling will do a damn thing to sanitize HISTORY.

Who's trying to sanitize HISTORY? There's a difference between "erasing" completely and "erasing" undeserved honor. The only reason you have statues of American traitors and the Civil War defeated around your country, as has been told to me many times on this forum, is because the folks back then wanted the nation to heal. It wasn't because the folks who got the statues of themselves deserved them.

Now the statutes themselves are causing the division. Move them to a museum, so the story can be preserved, but given the original intention behind these statues, and their current impact on American society, they should be taken from their pedestals and put somewhere where the truth of the actual history of what happened can be told. It's not sanitizing history, it's removing undeserved honor.

In my opinion, of course.

 

[Bodi]

If these illiberals had their way they would burn books.
They haven't realized yet that there is no way all their virtue signalling will do a damn thing to sanitize HISTORY.

I heard there have been book burnings... librrals lighting fires to libraries too...

 

[trixare4kids]

That's partisan hack lunatic fantasy. Monuments do not constitute literature or history and they are not being destroyed but moved to appropriate locations.

Why do you feel participation trophies for anti American terrorists erected as intimidation of the population merit town square? What about them is so important.

Thank you for sharing your opinion but when you call MY opinion partisan hack lunatic fantasy I cannot take you seriously as a debate partner.

Good day.

 

[ecofarm]

I did too... once I saw hill billy steve doing the dead drop under a rural bridge trying to figure out how to secure it i had to change the channel.

A suburban wilderness survival show. I saw a guy using tents and cutting trees to provide concealment. A few sandbags and he'd have been ready for a helicopter. I figure ammo and booze, he had a nice little spot there.

 

[Bodi]

Thank you for sharing your opinion but when you call MY opinion partisan hack lunatic fantasy I cannot take you seriously as a debate partner.

Good day.

Is your opinion exempt?

 

[ecofarm]

Thank you for sharing your opinion but when you call MY opinion partisan hack lunatic fantasy I cannot take you seriously as a debate partner.

Good day.

A debate partner, hah. Your claims are ignorant or lies. No one is burning books, erasing history or any of the other snowflake hysterical crap you claim. Nor is anyone sanitizing history. Residents are moving monuments of disgusting traitors that were erected for intimidating the population to an appropriate location - museums and civil war sites. What is there to cry about?

 

[trixare4kids]

Who's trying to sanitize HISTORY? There's a difference between "erasing" completely and "erasing" undeserved honor. The only reason you have statues of American traitors and the Civil War defeated around your country, as has been told to me many times on this forum, is because the folks back then wanted the nation to heal. It wasn't because the folks who got the statues of themselves deserved them.

Now the statutes themselves are causing the division. Move them to a museum, so the story can be preserved, but given the original intention behind these statues, and their current impact on American society, they should be taken from their pedestals and put somewhere where the truth of the actual history of what happened can be told. It's not sanitizing history, it's removing undeserved honor.

In my opinion, of course.

Addressing only your point in bold above. What does Condoleeza Rice have wrong?

 

[<alt>doxygen]

If these illiberals had their way they would burn books.
They haven't realized yet that there is no way all their virtue signalling will do a damn thing to sanitize HISTORY.

You're right:
https://www.send2press.com/wire/2005-08-0803-003/
BBC NEWS | Entertainment | 'Satanic' Harry Potter books burnt
They have a good bit in common with these fine folks:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_cultural_heritage_by_ISIL

Let us unite in opposition to them!:mrgreen:

 

[beefheart]

Say's a liberal...
Those who forget history...
I am a southerner, if you think I should scorn my ancestors...I have some advice for you, but I cant post it here.

Slavery is still going on in the world today. What have YOU personally done about THAT?

Pretty idiotic answer. Your ancestors were traitors, they lost. No dignity in that.

Your dodge about slavery going on in the world has nothing to do with the subject. What are you doing about slavery somewhere else?:roll:

 

[OlNate]

Addressing only your point in bold above. What does Condoleeza Rice have wrong?

Ah, gotta make you wait, bud...no youtube at work. I will look at it though.

Got a transcript?

 

[late]

"When a Southern conservative talks about "losing his liberty," the loss of this absolute domination over the people and property under his control -- and, worse, the loss of status and the resulting risk of being held accountable for laws that he was once exempt from -- is what he's really talking about. In this view, freedom is a zero-sum game. "

Some things never change.

https://www.alternet.org/story/1560...merican_aristocrats_have_come_to_rule_america