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Father Kills 14 Year-Old Son: 'He Would Rather Have a Dead Son Than a Gay Son'

AGENT J said:
LMAO thats the most retarded thing I have ever read about the sexual orientation. This is gonna be so good and so funny . . .

What "behavior"?
What "Gay activities"?

:popcorn2:
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Do I really need to explain this very simple concept to you?

all lifelong behavior results in changes to the brain. That's why all of the proof provided is useless.
 
RamFel said:
Do I really need to explain this very simple concept to you?

all lifelong behavior results in changes to the brain. That's why all of the proof provided is useless.
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I knew this would be so fun and that you would dodge the questions like you ALWAYS do LMAO

Ill ask you AGAIN:
What "behavior"?
What "Gay activities"?

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RamFel said:
To believe that it's natural to be gay is a pretty dumb thing to believe especially when you realize that no one can remember making that decision. So, of course, it's really easy to be lulled into thinking it must be natural. It isn't. And the best source of wisdom on this topic, the holy bible says as much. It's wrong. And each person makes that decision. Man is imperfect.

Oh, and hiding behind games and trickery and not answering or responding to questions is cowardly.
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In that first sentence you contradict yourself. That, "no one can remember making that decision" is exactly the point. No one "decides" to be gay as no one "decides" to be black or latino. Either you are or you aren't.
 
RamFel said:
Well, it depends. It really all depends on which comes first. The brain or the gay activities. In other words, did the gay activities affect the brain, causing the change, or did the brain cause behavior changes. I believe the behavior affected the brain over time.
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LOL! Now, you're really reaching, which is to be expected since you're arguing from an illogical position. How could "gay activities" cause physical changes in the brain? I'm anxiously awaiting your response.
 
Dittohead not! said:
LOL! Now, you're really reaching, which is to be expected since you're arguing from an illogical position. How could "gay activities" cause physical changes in the brain? I'm anxiously awaiting your response.
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The article mentioned it. I forget the specifics but it mentions doctors comparing brain scans of gays achieving the same size of hetero females. If you study anything at all until you become expert, your brain will grow imo. That's how I came up with that theory.


.gays do choose early on.
 
RamFel said:
The article mentioned it. I forget the specifics but it mentions doctors comparing brain scans of gays achieving the same size of hetero females. If you study anything at all until you become expert, your brain will grow imo. That's how I came up with that theory.


.gays do choose early on.
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It is not a theory.
 
worksforpigs said:
If the family were white, this would be headline news at CNN and MSNBC for weeks.

Alas, wrong skin tone. Quietly call it a "tragedy" and move on.
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Way to go about disrespecting a murder by playing political hack.
 
RamFel said:
The article mentioned it. I forget the specifics but it mentions doctors comparing brain scans of gays achieving the same size of hetero females. If you study anything at all until you become expert, your brain will grow imo. That's how I came up with that theory.


.gays do choose early on.
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That's not what it says. Read it again.
 
Dittohead not! said:
That's not what it says. Read it again.
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Since I didn't make any claims, why should I? All I did was come up with a possible theory (thus the letters imo). I proved nothing but neither have you.
 
RamFel said:
Since I didn't make any claims, why should I? All I did was come up with a possible theory (thus the letters imo). I proved nothing but neither have you.
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You said:
...mentions doctors comparing brain scans of gays achieving the same size of hetero females
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when it actually says that the brains of gays have the same structure as those of hetero females.

In other words, the brain of a gay man is like the brain of a heterosexual female.

If it were found that female and gay male brains were larger than those of hetero males, that would be evidence that hetero males are not as smart as gay males, or as females.

Sounds like an argument for a matriarchial society, or maybe one run by gay males.
 
Dittohead not! said:
You said:


when it actually says that the brains of gays have the same structure as those of hetero females.

In other words, the brain of a gay man is like the brain of a heterosexual female.

If it were found that female and gay male brains were larger than those of hetero males, that would be evidence that hetero males are not as smart as gay males, or as females.

Sounds like an argument for a matriarchial society, or maybe one run by gay males.
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Thanks. I wonder how much you read. I have a question for you, since I read just enough material to make my point. Did the authors of this article reach any conclusions on the evidence that have reached any conclusions?
you seem to need tha help.
 
RamFel said:
Thanks. I wonder how much you read. I have a question for you, since I read just enough material to make my point. Did the authors of this article reach any conclusions on the evidence that have reached any conclusions?
you seem to need tha help.
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They reached the conclusion that the brains of homosexual males were more like those of heterosexual females than like those of other males.

The clear implication is that homosexuality resides in the brain. That may or may not be true, but the inescapable conclusion is that gay men are not the same as straight men. It is clearly not a choice, but something in our biology.
 
Dittohead not! said:
They reached the conclusion that the brains of homosexual males were more like those of heterosexual females than like those of other males.

The clear implication is that homosexuality resides in the brain. That may or may not be true, but the inescapable conclusion is that gay men are not the same as straight men. It is clearly not a choice, but something in our biology.
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Did they actually come up with that actual conclusion? I seem to remember that they did not. I quote:

What makes people gay? Biologists may never get a complete answer to that question, but researchers in Sweden have found one more sign that the answer lies in the structure of the brain.

Looks like I am, for the moment, still right!
 
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RamFel said:
Did they actually come up with that actual conclusion? I seem to remember that they did not. I quote:

What makes people gay? Biologists may never get a complete answer to that question, but researchers in Sweden have found one more sign that the answer lies in the structure of the brain.

Looks like I am, for the moment, still right!
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You didn't understand his post. If the answer lies in the structure of the brain then being gay is not a choice.
 
RamFel said:
Did they actually come up with that actual conclusion? I seem to remember that they did not. I quote:

What makes people gay? Biologists may never get a complete answer to that question, but researchers in Sweden have found one more sign that the answer lies in the structure of the brain.

Looks like I am, for the moment, still right!
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If right means right vs left, then that's possible. If right means right about homosexuality being a choice, then you're way,but way way off of the mark.

The observation was that the brains of homosexual males are not the same as the brains of heterosexual males.
Your argument that "homosexual activities" explain the differences in brain structure just stands cause and effect on its head. There is absolutely no evidence that could be possible.
 
zyzygy said:
You didn't understand his post. If the answer lies in the structure of the brain then being gay is not a choice.
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You misunderstand my post. What I tried to show was where there was no conclusion reached by the author and no positive conclusion means that, until all data is collected, and analyzed and a proper conclusion reached, you are still wrong.

Imo, I believe that these brain scan experiments are similar to those brain games where you work through exercises until the desired results are reached and you have a larger brain. Imo this is why gays seem to have a difference in size than that of straight males. My conclusion is that the gay person through engaging in gay sex and fantasizing about sex causes their brains to change imo.
 
Dittohead not! said:
If right means right vs left, then that's possible. If right means right about homosexuality being a choice, then you're way,but way way off of the mark.

The observation was that the brains of homosexual males are not the same as the brains of heterosexual males.
Your argument that "homosexual activities" explain the differences in brain structure just stands cause and effect on its head. There is absolutely no evidence that could be possible.
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See 396
 
justabubba said:
you give me a list of names, and i will identify the 'gay' ones
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Well judging by your posts I would suspect justabubba to be one. Most of tbe people who are homophobic are so because they have attractions to the same sex and often dream of same sex encounters.

The only choice involved in sexual orientation is the choice to deny your orientation. Most homophobes do just that.

And just for clarification I am straight, I just have no tolerance for bigots.
 
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