Elizabeth Warren releases DNA testing: she has Native American background

[NeverTrump]

An ounce? More like half a teaspoon.

Better than the evidence cons have the Trump is good at business
Better than the evidence cons have that climate change is a Chinese hoax.
Better than the evidence cons have that Kavanuagh isn't a drunk.
Better than the evidence cons have that Trump didn't collude w/Russia.
Better than the evidence cons have that there is a liberal media out to get them
Better than the evidence cons have that there is a secret cabal of angry Democrat FBI Agents
Better than the evidence cons have that George Soros is paying off protesters

 

[Kal'Stang]

I don't think Warren is applying for their scholarship. She is just mindlessly pandering for votes. Apparently these days you say anything enough and it's true. Just look at what a successful businessman Trump is what with dozens of failed businesses people still call him successful. I guess cons don't like getting played at their own game :mrgreen: Secondly Warren has more proof that she's native american than Trump has that he's a good businessman who knows how to run the country.

Even without qualifying/applying for a scholarship she still does not qualify to be considered as Native American by tribal standards. They're the ones that get to chose whether she is Native American or not. Not her. Not you. Not me. Just them. Unless of course you wish to apply the racist One Drop Rule that was once so prominent in the US?

Also, Trump has more money than you. That alone makes him more successful than you.

 

[ludin]

How much percentage of native american blood does one need to be native american???

1/16th is the minimum by most tribes statuses. to qualify for a educational grant you need to be 1/4th.

also some tribes will accept linage but you have to have full birth certificates both maternal and paternal.
tracing lineage back to the official rolls. it all depends on what tribe she belonged to and what she is trying to
apply for.

however she has never applied for a tribe.
also given how limited her indian heritage is i doubt they would accept it even if she could prove it.

some tribes require both.

 

[KevinKohler]

Better than the evidence cons have the Trump is good at business
Better than the evidence cons have that climate change is a Chinese hoax.
Better than the evidence cons have that Kavanuagh isn't a drunk.
Better than the evidence cons have that Trump didn't collude w/Russia.
Better than the evidence cons have that there is a liberal media out to get them
Better than the evidence cons have that there is a secret cabal of angry Democrat FBI Agents
Better than the evidence cons have that George Soros is paying off protesters

What aboutism.

 

[ludin]

According to most tribes, about 1/16...1/4 if you go to take advantage of their scholarship program.

some tribes will take linage but with that little bit of trace of indian i doubt they would accept her even if she could produce the documents.

 

[NeverTrump]

Even without qualifying/applying for a scholarship she still does not qualify to be considered as Native American by tribal standards. They're the ones that get to chose whether she is Native American or not. Not her. Not you. Not me. Just them. Unless of course you wish to apply the racist One Drop Rule that was once so prominent in the US?

Also, Trump has more money than you. That alone makes him more successful than you.

And Warren has more Native American blood in her system than me too!

 

[RileyCoyote]

I don't think Warren is applying for their scholarship. She is just mindlessly pandering for votes. Apparently these days you say anything enough and it's true. Just look at what a successful businessman Trump is what with dozens of failed businesses people still call him successful. I guess cons don't like getting played at their own game :mrgreen: Secondly Warren has more proof that she's native american than Trump has that he's a good businessman who knows how to run the country.

Trump is a businessman and in order to be successful you must take risks, sometimes they work out and sometimes they don't. Are you a billionaire? Did you run for president, having never ran for office, and won? Trump did. He has more leadership skills and political instincts than the past four presidents combined. He makes Obama look like the shiftless community organizer he is. He will make Pocahantis look like chump change.

 

[jonny5]

By writing that she was native american on her application, she was asking for special treatment due to said minorities being discriminated against because of their superficial features or cultural identity. She of course doesnt look native nor has any native identity, thus she has no claim to discrimination or special treatment. She is a white woman for all purposes and thus 2nd in privledge. While this may make Trump look stupid (like he cares), she is still guilty of cultural appropriation.

Technically we are all african.

 

[Acadia]

Even without qualifying/applying for a scholarship she still does not qualify to be considered as Native American by tribal standards. They're the ones that get to chose whether she is Native American or not. Not her. Not you. Not me. Just them. Unless of course you wish to apply the racist One Drop Rule that was once so prominent in the US?

Also, Trump has more money than you. That alone makes him more successful than you.

That's what her claims are reminiscent of and why this will backfire.
One drop of NA blood does not a POC make.
America has moved on from that racist concept.

 

[Kal'Stang]

And Warren has more Native American blood in her system than me too!

She has about the same as me. Yet I don't go around checking the Native American box on employment applications or go around claiming that I'm Native American.

 

[NeverTrump]

Why should he?!? She's not an Indian.

Um that is the complete opposite of what the test reveals. It reveals she has a native american heritage.

 

[ludin]

That's what her claims are reminiscent of and why this will backfire.
One drop of NA blood does not a POC make.
America has moved on from that racist concept.

i actually want to take one of those DNA tests.
I want to see how far back my ancestry goes.
I know quiet a bit about it already but i want to see how much of it is true.

 

[NeverTrump]

She has about the same as me. Yet I don't go around checking the Native American box on employment applications or go around claiming that I'm Native American.

Again, she isn't. She's just pandering for votes. Just like what Trump does. Yet you are fine with that. :shrug:

 

[ludin]

Um that is the complete opposite of what the test reveals. It reveals she has a native american heritage.

Not really the test showed that somewhere a long time ago someone in her family slept with someone.
that doesn't make her an indian.

trump was right. she isn't an indian she doesn't have the qualifications to make it.

 

[Kal'Stang]

Again, she isn't. She's just pandering for votes. Just like what Trump does. Yet you are fine with that. :shrug:

She isn't what? Claiming that she's Native American?

 

[ludin]

She has about the same as me. Yet I don't go around checking the Native American box on employment applications or go around claiming that I'm Native American.

have to remember who you are talking to.

 

[Acadia]

By writing that she was native american on her application, she was asking for special treatment due to said minorities being discriminated against because of their superficial features or cultural identity. She of course doesnt look native nor has any native identity, thus she has no claim to discrimination or special treatment. She is a white woman for all purposes and thus 2nd in privledge. While this may make Trump look stupid (like he cares), she is still guilty of cultural appropriation.

This will continue to be the issue, unless Warren just addresses it head on. Yes, in today's terms, what she did was cultural appropriation. She was an attractive, educated, highly intelligent, blonde-hair, blue-eyed white woman with all the advantages and privileges that came with those attributes, and she further capitalized on a marginalized, repressed and often suffering population to further herself in life.
If Warren hadn't filled that quota of "NA" or "POC" (officially or unofficially), would the opportunities afforded to her been passed to someone who actually DID qualify and actually DID need the benefit?

 

[NeverTrump]

She isn't what? Claiming that she's Native American?

She isn't applying to become part of a native american tribe. So all your stipulations and regulations are pointless. Trump claims he has $10 Billion and never slept with/paid off pornstars. Warren claimed she has native american heritage. Why are you OK with one lying and not the other?

 

[Acadia]

i actually want to take one of those DNA tests.
I want to see how far back my ancestry goes.
I know quiet a bit about it already but i want to see how much of it is true.

I have a 23 & me test and need to take it. It's somewhere tucked in a drawer. Heck, maybe I'll find some NA dna. Who knows.

 

[FreeWits]

I just heard this on TV, but have not yet been able to find it online. Elizabeth Warren has taken a DNA test, and it shows that she has native American background.

President Trump has slammed her claims to such background as self-serving lies to try to advance her career as a minority. His nickname for her has been “Pocahontas”, and he has challenged her to take a DNA test to prove it.

So she did.

Of course, facts and test results have never been anything to impress Trump or his base very much. If they have dismissed the unanimous consensus of every single scientific organization on the entire planet on global warming, and the unanimous claims of every single one of their own appointed intelligence agencies on Russian interference, what’s a flimsy little DNA test from Elizabeth Warren?

But what’s more interesting about this is what it says about her intentions: it definitely sounds like she is gearing up for a run in 2020. Surely she didn’t do this to just keep running for senator from Massachusetts.

Interesting.

So a Stanford professor claims that there is a likelihood that is a Native American ancestor in the family tree, which would be Warren's great-great-great-grandmother. lol The context was in Warren claiming being Native American to get advantages that are intended for Native Americans of at least 1/8th ancestry. She does not qualify even if this is true, and that's ignoring that even by this professor's own claims, this is not a sure thing. https://nypost.com/2018/10/15/heres-what-elizabeth-warrens-dna-test-shows/

 

[dcsports]

Article from the Washington Post.

Excerpt :


In my opinion, claiming you're native american because somebody in your family 120 years ago (at least) was, is pretty deceiving. The only reason she said such a thing was to score brownie points with some people on the left and claim she is a minority.
My great-grand father was 100% italian. I don't at all claim to be italian, that would be deceptive.

But yeah, she's 1.5% percent native american. Cool I guess ?

1.5% is probably a bit high. She's probably closer to the 1/512 end of the range.

 

[Casca XV]

yes she has to register with a tribe.

The point i was trying to make is: Warren did get benefits, is that not a crime?

My wife's Mom (my mother-in-law) would not have looked out of place as an extra in " Dances with Wolves" but she was adopted and had no knowledge of her birth family.

My Wife did her Ansestory DNA to track down that part of her family.

Through Ansestory DNA she found out that she has a lot of relatives who are Black Foot.

Although getting benefits was never on her mind, through research she found out that this DNA doesn't necessarily quality her to be registered and that is what is required.

 

[akyron]

Indeed, 1/1024

Do we think that is enough to get affirmative action benefits? As she did?

 

[SonOfDaedalus]

i just read the results at best shes 1/512....hahhaha thats enough to qualify as minority status. What a disgusting pig this woman is.

She only heard from her family that she had some Native American ancestors in her family and answered a question on a form.

By supporting Trump you have lost any right to criticize anyone morally. We don't believe you have any real moral standards. Don't waste our time with your faux outrage.

 

[Cisero]

1.5% is probably a bit high. She's probably closer to the 1/512 end of the range.

Based on what ?
1/64 if 6th generation.
1/512 if 9th generation.
1/1024 if 10th generation.

If you take 8th generation (which is between 6th and 10th generation, the numbers given by the Stanford professor) then it would be 1/256.

So it's anywhere between 1.5625% and 0.09765625%.

Whatever the number, the fact is she isn't as american indian as she wanted people to believe.