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Does being well educated make you more or less likely to recognize bull****?

Does being educated make you more or less likely to recognize BS?

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Depends upon the definition of "Well Educated"....if it means Well Credentialed at the University then less, if it means received a quality education then more. The intelligentsia has long gone rancid, the less time spent at their training centers the University the better. We should have known this when the Feminists were allowed to set up base camp there.
 
Chomsky said:
What the hell is that supposed to mean?
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You're smart; education doesn't necessarily make you worldly, experience does. If a city guy is approaching a Hill Billy, the city guy's got something to sell, or he's from the government....

Think on that a while before you answer.
 
iliveonramen said:
Or, they could perform worse due to other factors. Regardless of race, the income level of your parents and the education level of your parents typically impacts how well you perform in school. It doesn't matter if you black and living in the inner city in California or living in a trailer park in rural Alabama.
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At which point, it has nothing to do with race, it has everything to do with poverty. Make up your mind.
 
ecofarm said:
What a load of "good ol' days" crap.
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I'm a millennial... College's were more prestigious in the past, we've had to lower standards at colleges to fit a much larger population of individuals of all ranges of ability and the culture is different. There is no question we've had to dumb down college.... otherwise MANY more people would fail out.

Was it "better" in the past? I don't know... I don't think so.... more people with access to education is generally a good thing... and there are ways of going on a more challenging education path than even in the past. But for the purpose of the Thread? No, the methods of teaching today in Humanities... they learn zero critical thinking skills, unless they manage to find one of the special professors out there.
 
iliveonramen said:
I've made up my mind...your idea Dems keep black poor and uneducated is seriously flawed.
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You've made up your mind that you're going to swill the liberal koolaid. We know. It's absurdly obvious.
 
Cephus said:
But even places like California, where public education is paid for equally regardless of where the school is located, you still tend to get inner city blacks performing poorly in school because they've bought into the liberal lie that the planet is out to get them. They still tend to drop out at a rate much higher than people in non-ghetto schools. It's not the money that matters, it's the culture in which one lives and the lies one buys into. And unfortunately, the black demographic is effectively bought and paid for by the far left.
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Where did you get your degree in Black People? Let me guess...
 
ecofarm said:
Where did you get your degree in Black People?
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Where did you get the idea that black people are any different than white people?
 
No more or less than someone with an average education.
 
celticwar17 said:
I'm a millennial... College's were more prestigious in the past, we've had to lower standards at colleges to fit a much larger population of individuals of all ranges of ability. There is no question we've had to dumb down college.... otherwise MANY more people would fail out.

Was it "better" in the past? I don't know... I don't think so.... more people with access to education is generally a good thing... and there are ways of going on a more challenging education path than even in the past. But for the purpose of the Thread? No, the methods of teaching today in Humanities... they learn zero critical thinking skills, unless they manage to find one of the special professors out there.
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Much as we now have folks graduated High School who can barely even read.....the credentials are increasingly useless because we have no standards, nothing much was done to earn them, parroting the instructor is all that is required to get through increasingly.
 
ecofarm said:
That's your claim.
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You're the one that capitalized "Black People". Apparently you think there is something special about them.
 
Cephus said:
Where did you get the idea that black people are any different than white people?
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We are different. Diversity is what allowed us to evolve. We have many different priorities and many the same. Even people of the same race have different cultures.
 
Cephus said:
You're the one that capitalized "Black People". Apparently you think there is something special about them.
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I was referring to a degree. You claim to be an expert in black people. You claim to know all about them, their "black culture" and how they are "bought and sold". So, where did you get your degree in Black People?

Perhaps you'd like to cite one of your sources for this information. haha
 
iliveonramen said:
:roll: what's absurdly obvious is that your views seems to be seriously lacking in either facts or support.
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Perhaps his degree is in 'Talking Crap about Black People'.
 
Chomsky said:
That would depend if the barometer of "being smart", is determined by how much money one makes! ;)
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Exactly, it depends on the bar or the definition of smart. I have met some people that had a mountain of education and couldn't pour piss out of a boot without guidance. Educaiton has nothing to do with smart, The application of education does.
 
I think education in most cases give people a tool to use to acquire wisdom. It is wisdom that allows us to see through cons and BS.

In the army I met a lot of con men from different parts of the country. I was very good in school and well educated but the wisdom was not there. It was only after being fooled and taken that the wisdom was acquired that now makes me leery of BS.

Education can actually have the exact opposite role as well. When taught information that at the time is believed to be true and factual but is not, can hinder people from having a more open minded view of things. Then you have the deliberate use of the education system to teach BS. A prime example would be the Hitler Youth program.
 
Mach said:
Lursa said it more succinctly than I would have.

I would like to add, that if you are done with education or am too long past that to worry about it...you can still get 90% of that exposure...not the job skills necessarily...but that exposure to other view points and perspectives, by just being well-read. Read voraciously everything you can get your hands on. Don't read complete ****e of course, but there are plenty of guidelines and lists to help choose top 100 or 200 books, etc.
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I believe that teaching kids to enjoy reading is almost the most important thing we can do. To read is to open up possibilities. To know what is out there is to yearn for it, to motivate, to let kids know how many great things they can do in life if they try.
 
MrWonka said:
By your logic, most NFL and NBA players are smarter than 99% of the country.

In truth most rich people today aren't rich because they're really smart. Some are, but most were actually born into wealth to some degree or another. Even my parents, for example, aren't what anyone would consider wealthy, but they at least own their own home and that means when they pass on my brother and I will be able to sell it and pay off almost any debt we have with enough left over to give ourselves a leg up on retirement.

In fact, one thing I've found is that usually some of the most intelligent people you'll ever meet are not particularly motivated by wealth. One of the most intelligent people I know aced her ACT's and graduated #1 in her class from medical school. Rather than go into an insanely lucrative medical field she took a relatively modest job at the VA, and intends to go into teaching medical school at some point.
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I asked a question. Please point out where I stated an opinion.
 
MrWonka said:
All of them. They're all nonsensical, and you provided no evidence for any of it.
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LOL…okay. I would discuss further but your broad declaration its nonsensical without even a rudimentary argument to the contrary kind of makes it pissing in the wind as you really want to discuss a ridiculous premise instead of moving into something worth exploring.

Drawing conclusions from this type of data is not only misleading it down right dangerous. There is no difference between drawing conclusions about educational status and that of gender or race. You no doubt can make interesting observations and even break those down a bit into questions worth examining: Women tend to vote x or blacks D. That’s informative on its own. The diversity in such a category however is such that any abstracted conclusion is likely wrong; unless of course someone here is suggesting one gentiles, skin color or certifications actually directly affect people voting methodology?

Of course it doesn’t. And if you begin to break down what makes up educational level of a population one quickly sees that all these conclusions are quite silly and emotionally based. No different from one saying well “most woman are emotional, women tend to vote democrat: democratic support must be mostly a bunch of emotional women and femine men”

Education can improve ones ability to detect bull****. So can many experiences outside educational certification and it is unrelated factors which determine those that develop them and those that don't. There are very intelligent people on all sides of most controversial issues, it’s what makes them controversial. :peace
 
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