Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.
And this is why language is important (examples taken from thread by no mean exlusive)
BLM advocate redress of the disparity in social and economic outcomes of black people, Antifa are opposed to Fascism.
That is how they define themselves correct. That is hardly how they are described by observers.
Nazis and the KKK advocate totalitarianism, anti-constitutionalism, ethnic cleansing and genocide. I'm not sure how you draw a moral equivalence.
So this is an organized group like BLM/Antifa that has defined itself by those doctrines and talkingpoints? LOL hardly, its a prescribed label by a third party. True probably but not equivocate to self descriptions given above. Apple with apples please least you draw the wrong conclusions. Those nazi’s themes and imagery btw are very likely used to get media attention…it takes all of two second of research to see that is their motive verse if they represent a modren incarnation of nazi-ism. And many independent reporters even said it was isolated as to the total especially in terms of KKK. ”unite” general means of some kind of diversity. So lumping is inevitably happening. Not that you'd catch me dead even thinking about associating with these yahoos.
Why do these people choose to associate with white supremacists, which is not the smartest move. I can guess educated guess its the attention, the objective of any protestor or angry political activist.
Yes, but those are actions of individuals, not overall goals of the group. The goal of Nazis is genocide. One can belong to BLM and not set **** on fire or shoot cops, one can't be a Nazi without belief in genocide and/or ethnic cleansing.
You know these are not American Nazis though right? Like you understand these are distinct groups with distinct objectives - horrible sure but we both understand “Nazi” is a label applied to them, they are not defining that label, a third party is…and they then utilize that to get attention right? The actual nazism involved is a completely separate question. Nazi refer to a 1930s political movement with as much if not more parallels with antifa(to the nazi’s anticommunism(antistalism)) as it applies to any these people.
So the white people at the counter protest think their race is superior? BLM was marching together with people of all races. There might be some really bad people in the counter protest, but you should recognize that Nazism isn't about a few bad cookies. Nazisism and White Nationalism is horrendous in itself.
Okay I don’t know what you’ve been reading but BLM’s material very clearly says blacks are superior to whites in the same deceptive way people like david duke phrase his bs about white as superior. I don’t care the ethnic mix of BLM anymore than the ethic mix of white supremacist+. People are equal before the law! There should not be advantages and thus disadvantages given based on race, period!!!
And the exact same thing can be said about white supremacists in terms of some bad people and mostly just angery peaceful people in fact it easier to demostrate. It still disingenuous. It wrong and it has no place.
BLM and ANTIFA at worst, has had a couple of riots and will most likely fall into political obscurity in about a year or two. The Nazi party caused a second World War and lead to mass genocide.
These are not the Nazis, the term is use for these people to reflect the dangers of their ideology. And fyi, antifa is so associated with violence it only a matter of time before they are rightful declared a terrorist group. The parallels with the actual nazis and their anti-stalist rhetoric is terrifying.
And what rapid political change has been the result of BLM and ANTFIA exactly? Last time I checked, the GOP is still in control of every branch of government presently, and it isn't like the Democrats are seeking their endorsement either.
LOL, why don’t you read up a little more on the Nazis coming to power.
So then why are you so obsessed with BLM?
They kill people, cause violence and they breed hate and resentment.