Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally. [W:349]

[Mason66]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

Lulz. You might want to pay far better attention. The Russian probe/investigation is heating up and has legs.

Careful, though. It can be frightening to those who can't face reality.

What reality would that be?

Nobody outside of the investigators know what the evidence is so for you to say it is heating up, is kind of comical.

 

[Mason66]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

Nope.

It seems that is what some of the posters are saying here.

 

[Skeptic Bob]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

When the picture shows them waving a placard or shirt in the middle of a crowd of baying fascists and neo-nazis, it's pretty much cut and dried.

Because photos could never be manipulated, right?

 

[AlbqOwl]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

Greetings, AlbuOwl. :2wave:

:agree: Well said! I well remember the riots that took place at Kent State, because they happened close to where I live. Those riots weren't because one group of people disagreed with other groups like we're seeing today - tey were protesting the war! The sad thing about those times was that the paid professional instigators of the violence got the college students all riled up with fiery rhetoric, then quietly snuck away so they couldn't be identified, and those that died were not smart enough to realize they'd been set up to be the scapegoats!

The same thing appears to be happening today because someone is apparently masterminding this current violence to further their own agenda, and since it can happen anywhere in this country on any given day, there's evidently lots of money behind it! :thumbdown:

Alas, I think you are right, Polgara. I was at a Tea Party rally in our city not all that long ago. It was peaceful, happy, with folks enjoying each other and having fun on a beautiful day. We were careful to not litter the premises, plus we picked up a lot of other people's litter, were careful not to block entrances to stores, etc. and just had a good time. The very few people who showed up with signs we thought unkind or improper, we asked those be put away and they were.

But at some point. three or four folks showed up at the fringe with hateful ugly signs re President Obama and some other prominent Democrats, hateful slogans etc. When asked to put those away they just smiled, turned their backs, or moved a short distance away. Not a single one of us knew who any of those people were. But they did their dangdest to get in front of the TV cameras, brandishing fists in the air, shouting with angry faces, and brandishing those signs. When the television crews left, so did they, without a word.

There is no way in hell those were part of our group. I am 100% certain they were plants put there to make the Tea Party group look bad, hateful, militant, etc. And was that their idea? I don't think so. I think they were paid operatives.

And I am just about as certain that a lot of these violent protest groups are also led by paid operatives. Who pays them and for what purpose? I have no idea. But it stinks.

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

1.)You think your pretty smart with that snark indifference to the lives that will be lost due to your rationalization?
2.) And yes I showed far more emotion than fact in my posts.
3.) It's called an appeal to emotion, you are supporting this for sentimentality after all.
4.) I actually care about the words I use and who I label and associate with a nazis or an authoritarian or murders of history. I see the results of failing to act when it's still an idea. I care about the indifference to BLM's messages inciting hate, criminality and violence.
5.)Oh but yes let's just all pretend I am just a dumb guy making it all up. What could I ever know. I am just slandering this poor "civil" rights movement; those all speak about implementing races based policies and forcing cops out of pride marches, right?
6.)Your right about one thing though I didn't respond to a claim you made.
7.) I told you how it makes me feel when people ignore the wolf in the hen house.
8.) If you want to know why I think I'm right, let's have a debate and I'll suspend the emotional hysterics and be happy to calmly show you where these "crazy" claims of mine come out from.

1.) hey look ANOTHER made up lie LMAO i wonder how many there will be this time to make everybody laugh at.
2.) and lies and topical ignorance
3.) lie number #2 in your post
4.) meaningless strawman and opinion and more lie #3
5.) who called you a dumb guy? lie #4
6.) we know, you still aren't. its because facts are hard to dispute and you cant do it
7.) which is another meaningless strawman that i never did
8.) i couldnt careless why you "think" you are right because your claim is already known and proven to be factually wrong. theres nothing to debate. All you will be able to do is express your illogical and factually wrong FEELINGS and give examples that you FEEL are meaningful but your statement that got called out and destroyed will still, factually, be wrong :shrug: Cant wait till the next meltdown and rant you post though, they are pretty entertaining and EXACTLY part of the problem with what is going on right now. VOID of reality and honesty and based on emotions and baseless ignorant factually wrong opinions.

the most entertaining part is your meltdown rantings of posts came from somebody pointing out the simple fact that BLM =/= racist nazis and white supremacist. Ill never understand why facts bother some people so much.
opcorn2:

 

[Manc Skipper]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

Because photos could never be manipulated, right?

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The question of motivation and skill required arises. The possiblity may exist, but the likelihood is low.
Besides, I would expect an employer to at least ask the scumbag if that was indeed them in the middle of a nazi rally before firing their sorry arse.

 

[Manc Skipper]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

How is it cut and dry when people who was over a thousand miles from the demo and base only on looking similar to someone who was there had their names drag in the mud?

So it wasn't him, and he had an alibi.

 

[ReverendHellh0und]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

1) Yes. If you think you know the criminal, you notify the police, not the entire planet with an accusation on r/altright.

2) Oddly enough, the alt-right community misidentified several people as the assailant, including a man who was dead for over a year on the day Spencer was assaulted. Did I mention you should go to the police?

3) That was hardly the only example of doxing there, that was just the last straw.



I can find plenty of other sites with the same story. e.g. A Pro-Trump Neo-Nazi Group Just Threatened The Children Of CNN Reporters

That article contains other examples of alt-righters doxing journalists:
Trump Fans Dox ?Anti-Trump? Journalists - Vocativ

Activists:
I Got Doxxed After Giving a Donald Trump Supporter the Finger

Jews:
https://www.algemeiner.com/2016/10/...targeting-jewish-journalists-on-social-media/

They also have this "fun" habit of labeling Jews on social media by using parenthesis:
Understanding the Alt-Right?s Jew Parentheses

There is also apparently an entire section on DS dedicated to doxing. Again, I will not give them traffic, but I'm pretty sure it's not about defending themselves from the practice.

As a reminder: HanSoloA**hole isn't a "kid," he is an adult. Oh, and CNN? They didn't make death threats to HSA and his family. DS did.



Milo is undoubtedly part of the alt-right, and has repeatedly acted as an apologist for the more extreme wings of the alt-right, including white supremacists and anti-semites. He also helped form the template for alt-right "activism," which (as typified by GamerGate and attacks on Leslie Jones) involves doxing, and instigating massive waves of harassment on his targets.

I do realize that the hard-core white supremacists view Milo as a degenerate Jewish homosexual... and that was before he bragged about being a pedophile. Still, he's pretty much in their corner.


And let's add a few more examples
http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2...tice-so-much-hes-trying-to-dox-a-rape-victim/
https://www.cnet.com/news/taking-trolls-to-court-lawsuit-targets-the-daily-stormer/
https://www.adl.org/blog/online-harassment-extremists-ramp-up-trolling-doxxing-efforts
http://www.metro.us/news/big-stories/trump-supporters-publish-personal-information-antifa-doxxing
http://www.thedailybeast.com/how-br...-mobs-to-threaten-dox-and-troll-trump-critics

So wait.

define "alt-right". This is the problem with your ilk's argument, you want to lump not racists with racists seemingly all trump supporters are "alt-right"? what is "alt right"

 

[Tanngrisnir]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

What reality would that be?

Nobody outside of the investigators know what the evidence is so for you to say it is heating up, is kind of comical.

Eh. Whatever you have to pretend. There's this thing called 'the news'. It contains details of what I'm talking about.

You might consider checking it out sometime.

 

[Deuce]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

Because photos could never be manipulated, right?

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Why wont the mainstream media talk about this!?

 

[BillRM]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

So it wasn't him, and he had an alibi.

An you do not think that such false information will not keep coming up for years when someone google his name?

 

[Conaeolos]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

Agent J, If you ever want to challenge yourself. I highly recommend you read about an ancient criticism between people like Plato/Socrates/Xenophon and the “sophists” and why that word is used in english to refer to “a person who reasons with clever but fallacious arguments”.

1.) hey look ANOTHER made up lie LMAO i wonder how many there will be this time to make everybody laugh at.

A claim or hyperbole are not a lie. I have made the claim that black lives matters ideas lead to murder and death. I have referenced thing like the events following the removal of the evils of apartheid in South African & Zimbabwe which have left more racial policy in place than those evils and as much death. I have pointed out rhetoric about police and criminals not being self responsible, after all not respecting police can get you killed and thrown in prison. It is after all still crime to resist police. A crime that can get you killed.

2.) and lies and topical ignorance

First, to speak to the 5th point you know calling someone “ignorant” and “dumb” are equivalent right?

second, how are my posts not an emotional appeal? by what standard? That’s exactly what they are and what I wanted them to be.

3.) lie number #2 in your post

Again, a claim or an opinion is not a lie; however, you by arguing BLM is reasonable, are de facto claiming systemic racism in America is at the root of the African American crime proportions & poverty. That is absurd and a complete oversimplification of the problems facing African Americans.

If it systematic racism point anyone to the laws. You can’t because your talking about racism not systematic racism is it is properly defined. They and you by legitimizing them are conflating terms, confusing ideas and that has consquences.

I can assume however you sentimentally think high-incarceration etc are worthy of giving the movement leeway hence my claim of sentimentality and why I choose to make an emotional not rational argument.

4.) meaningless strawman and opinion and more lie #3

No that is my entire argument, see my original post. Conflating words is giving people stupid dangerous ideas and double standards. How is it a stawman to declare my position? A strawman is reducing your argument, that statement had nothing to do with your claims. Notice each word starts with “I”. You mean me repeating my claim BLM incites hate…that’s a claim, you need to actually prove its a lie…”everyone knows its a lie” is not an argument rational or emotional.It’s a deflection. a device of rhetoric.

5. who called you a dumb guy?

You in this post in fact. Here are two other examples for your other posts:

no matter how many topically uneducated and intellectually dishonest people want it to be true

Now that your incoherent, factually inaccurate, meltdown and lying rant is over do you have any facts that support the lie you got caught posting actually true? of are you just hoping that retardation you just posted would get a reaction beside us laughing at how dumb it is?

6.) we know, you still aren't. its because facts are hard to dispute and you cant do it

I notice you skipped the embed question…does BLM have the characteristics of a civil rights movement? If not what do you claim they are?

I have chosen not to utilize many fact - true, that not because their hard that is because i think you base your logic on emotion verse reason. So maybe emotion arguments would work better, but surprise surprise enter the game of rhetorics. I will stop and we can debate.

7.) which is another meaningless strawman that i never did

umm, again a stawman isn’t my argument its about me misrepresenting yours. And “I feel” statement is not a stawman, please learn your terms.

8. i couldnt careless why you "think" you are right because your claim is already known and proven to be factually wrong. theres nothing to debate. All you will be able to do is express your illogical and factually wrong FEELINGS and give examples that you FEEL are meaningful but your statement that got called out and destroyed will still, factually, be wrong

You think that is a reasonable argument? Basically stating the mattered is settled? Settled by whom?

There is a debate to be had. People are dying from raised racial tensions. Those are facts. You want to argue facts, let’s do it.

Here is a starting point:
What does “black lives matter” stand for if not the race based policies and scapegoating a struggling demographic problems with crime/poverty as I claim? Thanks.

 

[BillRM]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

The question of motivation and skill required arises. The possiblity may exist, but the likelihood is low.
Besides, I would expect an employer to at least ask the scumbag if that was indeed them in the middle of a nazi rally before firing their sorry arse.

Maybe an employer would ask and maybe not but a potential employer is must less likely to do so instead of just rejecting the man or woman.

An why used the term scumbag toward people who you do not know had been correctly ID not?

Kind of tell us all your mindset in my opinion.

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

Agent J, If you ever want to challenge yourself. I highly recommend you read about an ancient criticism between people like Plato/Socrates/Xenophon and the “sophists” and why that word is used in english to refer to “a person who reasons with clever but fallacious arguments”.


A claim or hyperbole are not a lie. I have made the claim that black lives matters ideas lead to murder and death. I have referenced thing like the events following the removal of the evils of apartheid in South African & Zimbabwe which have left more racial policy in place than those evils and as much death. I have pointed out rhetoric about police and criminals not being self responsible, after all not respecting police can get you killed and thrown in prison. It is after all still crime to resist police. A crime that can get you killed.

First, to speak to the 5th point you know calling someone “ignorant” and “dumb” are equivalent right?

second, how are my posts not an emotional appeal? by what standard? That’s exactly what they are and what I wanted them to be.


Again, a claim or an opinion is not a lie; however, you by arguing BLM is reasonable, are de facto claiming systemic racism in America is at the root of the African American crime proportions & poverty. That is absurd and a complete oversimplification of the problems facing African Americans.

If it systematic racism point anyone to the laws. You can’t because your talking about racism not systematic racism is it is properly defined. They and you by legitimizing them are conflating terms, confusing ideas and that has consquences.

I can assume however you sentimentally think high-incarceration etc are worthy of giving the movement leeway hence my claim of sentimentality and why I choose to make an emotional not rational argument.


No that is my entire argument, see my original post. Conflating words is giving people stupid dangerous ideas and double standards. How is it a stawman to declare my position? A strawman is reducing your argument, that statement had nothing to do with your claims. Notice each word starts with “I”. You mean me repeating my claim BLM incites hate…that’s a claim, you need to actually prove its a lie…”everyone knows its a lie” is not an argument rational or emotional.It’s a deflection. a device of rhetoric.

You in this post in fact. Here are two other examples for your other posts:




I notice you skipped the embed question…does BLM have the characteristics of a civil rights movement? If not what do you claim they are?

I have chosen not to utilize many fact - true, that not because their hard that is because i think you base your logic on emotion verse reason. So maybe emotion arguments would work better, but surprise surprise enter the game of rhetorics. I will stop and we can debate.


umm, again a stawman isn’t my argument its about me misrepresenting yours. And “I feel” statement is not a stawman, please learn your terms.



You think that is a reasonable argument? Basically stating the mattered is settled? Settled by whom?

There is a debate to be had. People are dying from raised racial tensions. Those are facts. You want to argue facts, let’s do it.

Here is a starting point:
What does “black lives matter” stand for if not the race based policies and scapegoating a struggling demographic problems with crime/poverty as I claim? Thanks.

LMAO HOLY FULL MELTDOWN ALERT!!!! :laughat:
More retarded lies, strawmen and illogical ranting. Why do you post lies and make stuff up? do you think rational, honest, educated and objective people will ever fall for it? Nope it will just get laughed at.
The statement below is what set you off into a mental meltdown and all that was said. You can defend false claims with facts or you cant. Like i said retarded views and meltdowns like yours that are VOID of reality and honesty and based on emotions and baseless ignorant factually wrong opinions are exactly whats wrong today. Your views are part of the problem and they will never be part of the solution.

you are melting down over the fact "BLM =/= racist nazis and white supremacist"

your job is to prove otherwise, but you cant. All other things you WANT to talk about BEFORE admitting your statement was factually wrong will be ignored because it shows you are not interested in honesty or integrity.
your post fails and facts win again!


lets start simple. answer this question YES or NO
is BLM = to racists nazis and white supremacists, yes or no

I bet you cant do it

opcorn2:

 

[Conaeolos]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

LMAO HOLY FULL MELTDOWN ALERT!!!! :laughat:
More retarded lies, strawmen and illogical ranting. Why do you post lies and make stuff up? do you think rational, honest, educated and objective people will ever fall for it? Nope it will just get laughed at.
The statement below is what set you off into a mental meltdown and all that was said. You can defend false claims with facts or you cant. Like i said retarded views and meltdowns like yours that are VOID of reality and honesty and based on emotions and baseless ignorant factually wrong opinions are exactly whats wrong today. Your views are part of the problem and they will never be part of the solution.

you are melting down over the fact "BLM =/= racist nazis and white supremacist"

your job is to prove otherwise, but you cant. All other things you WANT to talk about BEFORE admitting your statement was factually wrong will be ignored because it shows you are not interested in honesty or integrity.
your post fails and facts win again!


lets start simple. answer this question YES or NO
is BLM = to racists nazis and white supremacists, yes or no

I bet you cant do it

opcorn2:

Can we stop the drum beating? You want a debate/discussion on facts let's move onward toward that.

BLM = racists / supremacist
Yes

BLM = Nazis
No

Since you have claimed I have stawmaned BLM and yourself with my depictions I'll start my case from your definition and statements. Please provide an outline of these established "knowns" as I sure we agree on a lot. I'll introduce my argument and facts from there. I'd take the affirmative but you have stated many times you find my position rediculous.

 

[Visbek]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

So wait.

define "alt-right". This is the problem with your ilk's argument, you want to lump not racists with racists seemingly all trump supporters are "alt-right"? what is "alt right"

Why gosh, where can you possibly be getting your cues? :roll:

Let's get a few things straight. I am not an "ilk," I do not represent a group, I don't agree with a lot of people about a lot of political ideas.

Second, I never said that "all Trump supporters are in the alt-right." That is a failure on your part not only to understand my position, it's a failure to understand the term. Given that the term is several years old now, it seems a bit... odd.

So:

The "alt-right" is a self-described amorphous agglomeration of white supremacists, neo-Nazis, racists, misogynists, anti-semitic, homophobic authoritarians and extremists who are savvy at using social media and other forms of technology to organize and disseminate their political views.

There is a small wing of adolescent-minded trolls that are not consistently ideological, are sick of "PC culture," and only care about generating outrage "for the lulz." However, the fact that they don't seem to spend much time perpetuating the same outrages on conservatives suggest that these individuals are dissembling, really do hate a lot of different groups, and genuinely lack respect for anyone except themselves. In many cases -- as exemplified by Milo -- they are using their claims about being provocateurs and/or humorists as a shield against moral (and possibly legal) judgment for their actions.

Ultimately the term "alt-right" is merely an attempt to rebrand extremist authoritarian hate groups. The troll wing, intentionally or not, gives them additional cover.

"Trump supporters" is a much broader category. While it includes the alt-right and more traditional white supremacist groups, it also includes lots of people who do not share those political views. E.g. moderate Republicans who want tax cuts and deregulation may not be woke, but they don't want to slaughter all the Jews. Evangelicals who strongly disapprove of Trump's behavior, and hope that he can appoint conservative justices, do not want to reinstate slavery. A former factory worker who is upset over declining job prospects and immigration, whose father fought in WWII, is not likely to support the elimination of the 1st Amendment and appointing a President for Life.

There may be a bit of overlap; e.g. conservatives may also be tired of "political correctness," dislike affirmative action, dislike immigrants and so forth. They may turn a blind eye to discrimination and abuses of minorities, women, gays and so forth. Some may want a state religion. However, merely holding a few positions in common and/or supporting Trump does not make them part of the "alt-right."

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

Can we stop the drum beating? You want a debate/discussion on facts let's move onward toward that.

1.) BLM = racists / supremacist
Yes

2.) BLM = Nazis
No

LMAO I called it and KNEW you could help your self so ill be ignoring everything else besides the yes/no before we can continue and ill just address the yes and nos for now
1.) 100% factually false
2.) 100% true

seems you can't accept facts and reality yet so we are still waiting. but lets start with your first factually wrong claim. This is gonna be awesome, halarious and so much fun!

you post the lie (or topical ignorance) BLM = racists
Please tell us, who are all the members of BLM racists against?

opcorn2:

 

[Conaeolos]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

LMAO I called it and KNEW you could help your self so ill be ignoring everything else besides the yes/no before we can continue and ill just address the yes and nos for now
1.) 100% factually false
2.) 100% true

seems you can't accept facts and reality yet so we are still waiting. but lets start with your first factually wrong claim. This is gonna be awesome, halarious and so much fun!:

So your only comfortable in the defensive, interesting. I believe you need to understand both arguments before attempting civil discord least you devolve into feels.

Please tell us, who are all the members of BLM racists against?

A fair question. I would argue like how certain white separatists try to dance around who they are against and not against and try to present themselves as pro-European verses anti-(not European who sides with them); black lives matters dances around who their against (non-African descendants who sides with them).A simply way to evade this rhetorical tactic is to look at racism not as being anti-x but rather promoting policies, laws and attitudes which are based on race be the argument for them "for the greater good" or for "blunt hate".

Example:
Affirmative action is an example of a racial policy done for the greater good. It is racist but people recognize black student rates are far too low and want more students to get top tier education. They thus designed "affirmative action" to try and promote more black students and combat low higher-education rates and poverty in the community. As a consequence for example less Asian students (the highest achieving racial group) are getting in to top tier collages. This affirmative action then can also be categorized as anti-Asian.

So to answer your question with brevity: BLM is anti-racial markers that do not conform to their ideas as they are pro-racism not anti-x.

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

<meaningless defection deleted>
1.)A fair question. <meaningless and lies defections deleted>
2.) So to answer your question with brevity: BLM is anti-racial markers that do not conform to their ideas as they are pro-racism not anti-x.

you just cant help yourself i love it, i knew this would be fun LMAO

1.) yes i know
2.) interesting, you deflected but didnt answer, thats VERY telling but ill just ask you AGAIN, try to answer this time, please and thank you.
I bet you dodge this question AGAIN

tell us, who are all the members of BLM racists against?
opcorn2:

 

[Conaeolos]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

1.) yes i know

Well since you insist on this drama I was in fact being generous as your use of the word "all" was misleading and is an obvious attempt to bait. Supporters of any movement will have diverse motives so if one doesn't answer carefully they'd fall for a generalization trap.

2.) interesting, you deflected but didnt answer, thats VERY telling but ill just ask you AGAIN, try to answer this time, please and thank you.I bet you dodge this question AGAIN

Explaining my reasoning is not deflection any more than stating my argument is lying or a straw man.

I don't have to try again. I will underline my repeated answer to your question than I will further expand my reasoning by talking on a point we agree on: white separatist are bad.

A fair question. I would argue like how certain white separatists try to dance around who they are against and not against and try to present themselves as pro-European verses anti-(not European who sides with them); black lives matters dances around who their against (non-African descendants who sides with them)A simply way to evade this rhetorical tactic is to look at racism not as being anti-x but rather promoting policies, laws and attitudes which are based on race be the argument for them "for the greater good" or for "blunt hate".

Example:
Affirmative action is an example of a racial policy done for the greater good. It is racist but people recognize black student rates are far too low and want more students to get top tier education. They thus designed "affirmative action" to try and promote more black students and combat low higher-education rates and poverty in the community. As a consequence for example less Asian students (the highest achieving racial group) are getting in to top tier collages. This affirmative action then can also be categorized as anti-Asian

So to answer your question with brevity: BLM is anti-racial markers that do not conform to their ideasas they are pro-racism not anti-x.

Why don't I just state BLM is anti-white because they are that too. That would be oversimplified and far from accurate as it likely will be blacks that suffer most under the racist policies as seen with the pro-African racist policies in Africa. The higher murder/crime rates affect the poor and disadvantaged more than the rich...that's life.

A white supremacist can color themselves blue shouting they are pro-people of European descent rights but it's absolute BS. I am a person of European decent but I would abhor, dissent and resist any laws, policies or actions based on race. My ilk existed in societies which had these types of law, like the Jim Crow south or apartheid South Africa - the results are the same: policies, laws and attitudes are expand to include race traitors.

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

< deflections and lies deleted>
Why don't I just state BLM is anti-white because they are that too.
<deflections and lies deleted>.

HOLY COW!!! LMAO more retarded lies and deflections instead of just honest fact based discussion and you simply answering the question. wow you make owning your posts so easy, its hilarious how bad they get destroyed. You inability to simply answer yes or no is very telling for all to see.


So besides all your double talk and deflections aside you claimed BLM are racists I asked racists against who and you seem scared to answer.

are you claiming BLM is racists against whites? yes or no?
opcorn2:


who wants to go double or nothing my question is ran from and dodged again !

 

[Mason66]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

Eh. Whatever you have to pretend. There's this thing called 'the news'. It contains details of what I'm talking about.

You might consider checking it out sometime.

OK, whatever.I am sure the "news" knows the inner workings of the investigation.

 

[Conaeolos]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

are you claiming BLM is racists against whites? yes or no?

Yes but not exclusively. As I have said "whites" generally are more privileged by many advantages over other demographic groups and so they are more insulated against the harms of racist policies, laws and attitudes. So is the biggest concern with BLM against whites, God no. I would predict whites might be marginally impacted. People still do always suffer and die under racist policies, laws and attitudes.

Wealth, education and strong social safety nets can always somewhat counteract racial policies and abuses. This can been seen for example in many cases where Jews were targeted for their ethnic markers but still had many successes.

You asked originally is there a strong correlation between the nazis and black lives matter and we both agree no. As you are aware I still claim many authoritarian and mass murdering implications should be associated. The parallels between communist( specifically Stalinist) tactics can be drawn. In both the pro-target is often the most impacted.

Do you honestly think it was the soviet bourgeoisie not proletariat who died and suffered most under Stalin?

 

[Zyphlin]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

Moderator's Warning:

If you can't debate each other without baiting I'd suggest you stop debating. Be civil and cease the baiting mockery or over the top repetitive trolling comments or action will be taken

 

[iguanaman]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

When you go public - you get what comes with it.

Yes, People forget that freedom of speech and assembly does not mean freedom from CONSEQUENCES. Everything possible must be done to fight what those groups stand for. Including getting them fired from their job.