Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally. [W:349]

[Crovax]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

Anyone who supports the Constitution would oppose such a committee. However, employers have more freedom in that department.

Not sure if you missed the sarcasm or you dont understand the reference. If an employee is causing an employer problem by all means let them go but for an internet group to "dox" someone with the intention to get them fired because they disagree with their political beliefs is pretty awful.

AlbqOwl said it a lot better than I can

I think the KKK, neo-nazis, white supremacists and all groups like them are despicable, hateful, unAmerican, unChristian, and a lot of other adjectives I could attach to them, but they are such small fringe groups that what difference do they make so long as they are just spewing their garbage but not acting out on it? Get after them when they harm people materially or physically or deny people their rights, but otherwise they have the right to be who and what they are

I think groups like Antifa, BLM, Nation of Islam, Freedom From Religion, Occupy Wall Street, wacko environmentalists et al are unhelpful, sometimes dangerous, and a lot of other adjectives I could attach to them but they are such small fringe groups what difference do they make by spewing their garbage but not acting out on it? Get after them when they harm people materially or physically or deny people their rights, but otherwise they have the right to be who and what they are.

Those who organize or try to hurt people just because they don't like them or don't like what they stand for are no better than those they go after.

 

[Fletch]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

An equivalency that has no importance at all, Fletch.

Have you found a marxist yet?

Are you pretending that there are no Marxists in the US? I bet if you pulled the masks off the Antifa mobsters you would find an affinity to Marx and his ideas that might surprise you.

 

[spud_meister]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

What happened at the Rally in charlotesville was groups from KKK, Nazi, Skinheads, Alt-right groups pushing to save a confederate statue. The groups promote white race only superiority. BLM and Antifa are advocating for laws to protect only certin skin colors from the justic system and advocate for laws to give their skin color preferentale treatment when in comes schools and jobs.

Seems like they both are propting up a certin race and hating on the other race to me.

So you literally are lumping addressing systemic inequality in with wanting to kill people. Great...

 

[JamesBY]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

Are you pretending that there are no Marxists in the US? I bet if you pulled the masks off the Antifa mobsters you would find an affinity to Marx and his ideas that might surprise you.

You implied everyone protesting the Alt Right were marxists, yet you can't produce one.

 

[JamesBY]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

So you literally are lumping addressing systemic inequality in with wanting to kill people. Great...

No, that is not what he was saying. That is you saying that, and it is not true.

 

[JamesBY]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

Only if we do the same fo rthe Antifa assholes.

Why, they are a much better type of American than the antifa Alt Right.

 

[spud_meister]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

one supports a macro political system that has historically committed horrific genocides, yes..... the other has been responsible for assasinations of over 11 police officers. Nazis are scum, so is antifa.

You, as a libertarian, also support a political system that has historically committed horrific genocide, either you're comparable to Nazis, or that's a stupid argument. And the actions of murderers within BLM isn't reflective of BLM as a whole, for the same reason we don't judge all Nazis by the actions of Oskar Schindler.

 

[JamesBY]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

I cant answer the question cause i do not know what you are asking
What is the intent? "get at them" how

That aside a person participating in a public event and it getting back to their employee isn't anything new. So im not sure what exactly i could be "against" or "for"?
As far as general people "outing" others that happens too

A person if they are going to participate in such should make sure they are right and if an employer is going to react on such info they absolutely damn well better make sure the info is accurate and what they are doing is legal or they themselves could find them under litigation.

In most companies a person absolutely can be legally terminate for being a nazi/racist and participating in hate speech, crimes or messages. Most times these are a clear violation of policy and conduct contracts that companies have with employees, this isnt anything new by any means :shrug:

Almost everyone else understands.

 

[spud_meister]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

Is supporting genocide the only thing that would get you fired? People are fired all of the time for much less. What about these things?

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Remember the IDIOTS and THUGS who were blocking interstates, destroying people's property and throwing Molotov cocktails and rocks at police officers?



ALL of these idiots being discussed here should be without a job -- and they probably are already anyway.

I'd have no problems with the idea in the OP happening to those people, advocating or committing violence should be enough to get someone fired. However, you're the first person to insert any sort of nuance into this discussion, everyone else has said just being a member of Antifa or BLM is as bad as being a Nazi, which is a stupid comparison.

 

[truthatallcost]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

So you literally are lumping addressing systemic inequality in with wanting to kill people. Great...

BLM has endorsed killing police officers, while Antifa is filled with violent people who've attacked anyone they deem as opposed to their cause. These groups don't merely address inequality.

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

Almost everyone else understands.

actually lots of people answered then made up their own assumptions of what the question could mean and explained thier answers. I chose not to. Cant answer a question honestly and accurately with out the info i asked
and eventhough it should be easy to apply my post since its your question and figure out how i stand i guess you arent interested in honest conversation lol
it could also be telling you avoiding answering so ill ask you again.

What is the intent?
"get at them" how?

opcorn2:

 

[spud_meister]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

Actually they do, and loudly proclaim that they want dead cops fried like bacon.

But that's different.

Yeah, not genocide.

 

[AGENT J]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

BLM has endorsed killing police officers, while Antifa is filled with violent people who've attacked anyone they deem as opposed to their cause. These groups don't merely address inequality.

no, "BLM" has not and more so than Christians endorse the kkk or bombing abortion clininics
there are police officers in BLM, WHITE police officers :lamo

you posting retarded lies will never make them true LMAO

 

[spud_meister]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

Antifa IS fascism, they are not "opposed" to fascism, they are it. Do you think the Sunday rally in Seattle when antifa shows up with clubs and boards with nails driven through them, harassing and shouting down people screaming they are fascists (when the group they were countering weren't) that they are supporting civil rights? That they're interested in s peaceful dialog? Because I don't think getting maced old school is something I would associate with peaceful dialog

No, see Antifa literally means anti-fascist. That's not the same as fascist. They may use similar methodology, but the underlying philosophy is diametrically opposed.

 

[D_NATURED]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

You are thinking to small, we clearly need a congressional sub committee to out any subverse ideologies and octricize them from attaining gainful employment

Who are we kidding, those idiots don't have gainful employment. Anyone dumb enough to march with NAZIs isn't worthy of a good job. It's not lost on me, though, that so many conservatives on this site are equivocating between NAZIs and the BLM movement. I find that sort of willful ignorance to be all too telling of the mindset of the American right. They can't even recognize a monster in the mirror, much less the white house.

The saddest thing is that I know a lot of people who identify as conservative. Now I have to wonder which of them are as immoral and deluded as those found here.

 

[spud_meister]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

They are mob actions. That is quite different than individual actions.

Also, it's one thing to "want" something to occur, but not acting on it. That's those Nazi guys. I mean, when have any American Nazi people actually engaged in genocide or ethnic cleansing?

It's another thing to actually "do" something. Most every time BLM gets out there, violence and destruction happens. EVERY TIME Antifa gets out there, violence and destruction happens.

Are you willing to act against the Nazi guys...and give the BLM and Antifa guys a pass? That seems to be what people are doing now.

I'm not saying violence shouldn't be condemned, I'm saying there's not a moral equivalence between the groups. See post #62 from Zyphlin for a great explanation.

 

[Geoist]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

Not sure if you missed the sarcasm or you dont understand the reference.

I know it was sarcasm, just pointing out how the analogy doesn't quite fit.

If an employee is causing an employer problem by all means let them go but for an internet group to "dox" someone with the intention to get them fired because they disagree with their political beliefs is pretty awful.

I have no sympathy for those who long for the days of public lynchings and genocides. They have their freedom of speech. That freedom of speech does not grant them job security or protect them from social isolation.

 

[chuckiechan]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

Absolutely! Out these bastards and ruin their lives.

You use employment agencies to do the screening. (Wink, wink). Hire them for six months while their lives are being screened for "impure thoughts", drugs, Facebook, blog comments, arrest records, Nazis, antifa, statue huggers, statue kickers, judgements, credit, etc.

If you are motivated enough you could exclude Elbonians if you wanted.

 

[spud_meister]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

You draw the moral equivalence based upon the core ideology of each side. Here what we have essentially is fascists v Marxists. Both are equally vile and violent. If an employee of mine were a member or either group, I would can him. That said, it is good of you to expose the moral blindness you have toward your ideological allies on the radical left.

Ok, so you think advocating for a classless society is the same as advocating for the deaths or expulsion of every non-white person in the US. You need to realise that the actions of Stalin, Mao or Pol Pot, while a consequence of Marxism, aren't actually a part of Marxist philosophy, whereas genocide is a part of Fascist philosophy.

 

[spud_meister]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

Is it OK to engage in extreme violence if you don't support genocide?

Nope.

 

[spud_meister]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

BLM promotes the murder of police. AntiFirstAmendment promotes and commits violence, which has already resulted in at least one death. Does that make them better than Nazis? :roll:

Some BLM murder police, some BLM riot, most BLM want to address inequality. All Nazis want to kill people.

 

[Fletch]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

You implied everyone protesting the Alt Right were marxists, yet you can't produce one.

Well, if they aren't fascists showing up in masks with clubs and engaging in violence, what are they?

 

[spud_meister]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

BLM has endorsed killing police officers, while Antifa is filled with violent people who've attacked anyone they deem as opposed to their cause. These groups don't merely address inequality.

You have some sort of official statement from BLM that endorses killing police?

 

[spud_meister]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

No, that is not what he was saying. That is you saying that, and it is not true.

He literally said the action of BLM are the same as Nazis because BLM want to redress the way black people are treated worse than white people in the justice system and Nazis want to kill black people.

 

[D_NATURED]

Re: Do you know me? I was at a white supremacists' rally.

No, see Antifa literally means anti-fascist. That's not the same as fascist. They may use similar methodology, but the underlying philosophy is diametrically opposed.

I see the problem. All of you conservative geniuses here on DP don't know WTF fascism even is. The word has been so confused by other conservatives who use it to describe any militant philosophy, like when you say "Islamo-fascists", that you've forgotten that REAL fascism was militant but it was a **** load more than that. It was corporatism, it was racism, it was ethnocentrism, it was totalitarian and it was CHRISTIAN, head to toe. Therefore, what you forget is that whether you call yourself a fascist or whether you even know how it's defined, there is a large segment of the conservative population who are dangerously close to NAZI-ism regardless of what they know.