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Dems set Trump trap? Source says FISA rebuttal memo loaded with sensitive details

ObamacareFail said:
I think the biggest of those half dozen or so reasons were self inflicted. She blew off the party's base in the rust belt states (blue firewall states) with statements like: "And yes we will put alot of coal miners out of business." And her statement declaring half of Trump's supporters as deplorables led to a surge of Trump voters who were otherwise on the fence in regards to showing up to vote. As for the "It should not have been close" aspect, if it were any other presidential election previous to 2016, I would agree. Trump would not have made it past the GOP field much less the hildabeast. 2016 was different. Trump tapped into a populist movement that the establishment in both parties ignored. And if they underestimate Trump and the movement again in 2020, they will do so at their own peril.

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Personally, I think the country is imperiled if they continue to ignore it.

But maybe we need a bunch of pain to get rid of some of this bull****.
 
The Mark said:
Personally, I think the country is imperiled if they continue to ignore it.

But maybe we need a bunch of pain to get rid of some of this bull****.
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Yeah we need less establishment moron politicians ignoring their constituents and kissing the backsides of their big donors. Trump 2020!
 
Risky Thicket said:
No way the Democrats would even consider setting a Trump trap. Impossible. Trump is a genius, the most intelligent president ever, and waaaaay too smart to fall into any trap.
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That's why he sent it back to Schiff and said 'clean it up and I'll take another look'.
 
ObamacareFail said:
Yeah we need less establishment moron politicians ignoring their constituents and kissing the backsides of their big donors. Trump 2020!
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Trump isn't getting rid of the establishment, he's putting a new and worse one in.
 
JMR said:
I understand that the republican memo was delivered to the white house, and then given to the FBI before release.
The Democratic memo was given to the FBI for redaction, and then given to the White House.

There is a difference. I guess my news sources can see that.
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Im tired of these clowns hiding behind national security

Release it all and develop new assets if that jeeds to happen. Enough with the shell game.

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sangha said:
Suddenly, rightwingers believe anonymous sources!! :lamo
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You beat me to it. As I was reading through this thread I was chuckling to myself at how conveniently some of our Trumpling forum mates here suddenly trust anonymous sources. You cannot make this stuff up.
 
JasperL said:
Good point. The focus is on the people who signed the warrant request, then the warrant itself, but many people at multiple levels, including staff attorneys at the FISC, also signed off before it got to Comey et al., then to the judges, four of them. So, yeah, dozens of people were allegedly involved in this corrupt plot against Trump.... Or they were doing their job, which is my own view, and fits the facts pretty well.
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When people like Erod, Conservative, Fenton, j-mac, and other Trump herd mates use the memos as something akin to biblical truths, it would make one think that perhaps the FBI didn't follow the Woods Procedures. I mean, if everything Nunes and Grassley allege is true, there's no way they followed the rules, or even worse, that all of these agents, their supervisors, and FISC judges are all deep state operatives conspiring against Donald Trump, who is just a hardworking, honest Joe like every other god fearing, patriotic conservative Republican.

The sad part is, there are a bunch of people on this forum who, despite apparently graduating high school, will be content to believe either one of those scenarios. And they will commit thousands of keystrokes to trying to convince you it doesn't sound bat**** crazy.
 
Erod said:
Dems set Trump trap? Source says FISA rebuttal memo loaded with sensitive details | Fox News



So predictable.

Schiff intentionally fills the Dem memo with items that he knows must be redacted so he can later claim the GOP made changes to his memo "for political reasons."

They should call his bluff. Just release it with redactions, let Schiff raise a stink, then release it again in its original form. Let the people see his corrupt tactics out in the open.
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The headline is a question, and the article refers to an unnamed source.

This isn't breaking news. It's conspiracy theory forum material.
 
ObamacareFail said:
I bet you thought there would be no such thing as Hillary Von Pantsuit losing the 2016 election as well. [emoji38]

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I thought she would beat Trump. I'll bet most people did. You thought Trump was going to beat her?
 
Grandpa said:
Would it matter to the judge issuing the warrant that this "honorable" and "reliable" agent with a "decades long career" told a US Justice official that he was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not being president? .....and that he was paid by Democrat backers to the tune of $160,000 for the "golden shower" dossier?

Might that be useful information that the FISA judge would consider in issuing the warrant?
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Actually I think that it would have been far more important that American voters were aware that a very credible and honorable allied agent had found enough credible evidence in his investigation proved that trump and company were illegally contacting Russian agents, making backdoor deals, money laundering along to many other crimes to list that AFTER investigating he realized it would be in the world's best interest not to put the traitor trump in office.

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He did however turn over all the evidence to the the proper authorities. Attacking the I.investigation, investigators, and process is the last desperate act of the truly guilty.
 
tres borrachos said:
I thought she would beat Trump. I'll bet most people did. You thought Trump was going to beat her?
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Actually I did believe Trump was going to beat her. I caught on to what the pollsters ignored......a populist movement that Trump was tapping into. I also noticed the huge crowds Trump was drawing while Hillary had to bus in college students to make it look like she could fill the bleachers at a high school gymnasium. To can see signs of a candidate in trouble if you know what to look for.

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tres borrachos said:
The headline is a question, and the article refers to an unnamed source.

This isn't breaking news. It's conspiracy theory forum material.
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It turned out to be dead-on.

The Dems purposefully sent a memo littered with FBI methods and material that has to be redacted so they could complain that Trump altered their document.

Nobody is buying it, fortunately. Thinly veiled at best.
 
tres borrachos said:
I thought she would beat Trump. I'll bet most people did. You thought Trump was going to beat her?
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These memos are the reason Hillary HAD to beat him. Now, it's trickling out.

State department is under scrutiny right now with more memos to come. Obama looks like he rode herd over the whole conspiracy.
 
Erod said:
It turned out to be dead-on.

The Dems purposefully sent a memo littered with FBI methods and material that has to be redacted so they could complain that Trump altered their document.

Nobody is buying it, fortunately. Thinly veiled at best.
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It did? Can you post a link to one of the Democrats on that committee saying "We sent a memo littered with FBI methods and material that has to be redacted so that we could complain that Trump altered the document"? I can't find it anywhere.
 
Erod said:
These memos are the reason Hillary HAD to beat him. Now, it's trickling out.

State department is under scrutiny right now with more memos to come. Obama looks like he rode herd over the whole conspiracy.
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Can I assume that the DOJ will be arresting Clinton and Obama any time soon?
 
ObamacareFail said:
I don't think you understand the term establishment as it applies to political parties.

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I could give a damn, I was talking about the establishment of D.C., which is both main parties and a bunch of others.
 
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